PSU: Mobilization Bravo

[Infernus]

meh I guess

[Indecisive]

Pay for something for once in your life.

[Corrosion]

Pay for something for once in your life.
:scared:

[Triggar]

Martyr and I are tentatively planning PSU:MB for July.

[Squeeky]

I swear, you think everyone is trying to hit on you. :rolleyes:

Ya no kidding :lol:

[Squeeky]

You mean other people do play this game? Wow, I had no idea! :)

For such an addictive game most people I've met have never heard of .

Elana in da hizzle reppen da chi-town ya heard :groovy: :groovy: :groovy:

[Indecisive]

Martyr and I are tentatively planning PSU:MB for July.

woot.

[OneManArmy]

double w00t! I wont have to miss class this time.

[MattxMosh]

Martyr and I are tentatively planning PSU:MB for July.

PSU:MB - MattxMoshs birthday at a strip club. make sure its on the agenda.


:D

[Triggar]

I've sent Spork an email asking him how our tentative dates sound from Sony's end.

I'll keep you all posted.

And Matt, you and anyone else celebrating a birthday during Bravo will get a special birthday treat from Triggar and Martyr :)

[Infernus]

I've sent Spork an email asking him how our tentative dates sound from Sony's end.

I'll keep you all posted.

And Matt, you and anyone else celebrating a birthday during Bravo will get a special birthday treat from Triggar and Martyr :)

...Sometimes its scary when she talks about special treats...

[Triggar]

Shuush :furious:

[Infernus]

Shuush :furious:

:love:

[Indecisive]

PSU:MB - MattxMoshs birthday at a strip club. make sure its on the agenda.


:D


July 4th here, and ill be 18 :brow:

[MattxMosh]

I've sent Spork an email asking him how our tentative dates sound from Sony's end.

I'll keep you all posted.

And Matt, you and anyone else celebrating a birthday during Bravo will get a special birthday treat from Triggar and Martyr :)

Sounds Kinky.

[biodemon]

Hey im turning 18 july 18 of next year :D

[Mag]

Treats of Mass Destruction!

[Everay]

ill be 17 on April the 6th, do i get a treat tioooooo1?!?!?

oh, and bar any unforseen accidents, IE family dieing or sky falling, i should be there.

[Triggar]

Just to keep you guys updated:

Martyr and I are still in the early, early stages of planning.

Over dinner tonight, we formed what we think will probably be the end itinerary (albeit a very vague and "ideal" situation).

We're thinking of doing the same large, themed dinner on Friday, spending Saturday with Sony and having dinner with them, and then giving you guys the option of what you want to do with Sunday - either paintball (**no you cannot bring your own equipment**), the zoo, or just hanging out by the pool.

Of course, the usual disclaimer applies:

Don't quote me on any of this because nothing is set in stone yet and won't be for a little while still!

What do you think?

[AztecWarrior]

Don't set anything, yet. Recover financially from the mass spending at MA.

Additonally, I'm saying it again, we NEED a PayPal fund for this. We can't have them going bankrupt every year.

[Triggar]

Sony should be sending us money to reimburse us...


....should be...

[AztecWarrior]

Oh, yeah. You can trust them. Remember the integration of Sanctuary Strikes?

HAMMA: We need a fund set up. A little PayPal button on the upper-right corner, right where quotes used to be.

[martyr]

negative, ghostrider

[Triggar]

negative, ghostrider

qft :lol:

[AztecWarrior]

404: Funny not found.

"ghostrider"?

[martyr]

the pattern is full.

[Triggar]

http://www.gratisweb.com/scott01t/1986%20Top%20gun%20(ing)%20(lc)%2002.jpg

[Corrosion]

:no: N00bs

[AztecWarrior]

No fair. I ne'er saw that movie.

(I was still in Hel...er...Detroit. And I was like three.)

[Corrosion]

DUuuuuuuuuuuuuuDE THATS LIKE THE MOST KICK ASS MOVIE EVAR

[Everay]

ive seen it a zillion times Aztec, and im about your age. as for Paypal, i could scrounge up a lil something by then. depending on the costs of PSUMB.

[Squeeky]

Maverick: Requesting permission for flyby.
Air Boss Johnson: That's a negative ghostrider, the pattern is full.

[Corrosion]

Maverick: Requesting permission for flyby.
Air Boss Johnson: That's a negative ghostrider, the pattern is full.
<Corrosion Stamp of approval>

[Biohazzard56]

That is a even larger negative you cannot land at Foxtrot, Ghostrider please abort from your current flight pattern.

Just got the confirmation. PSU:MB will be held in a new location see the following link for more details.

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Tiberias/al-Hamma/

[JetRaiden]

That is a even larger negative you cannot land at Foxtrot, Ghostrider please abort from your current flight pattern.

Just got the confirmation. PSU:MB will be held in a new location see the following link for more details.

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Tiberias/al-Hamma/


:nono:

[Everay]

That is a even larger negative you cannot land at Foxtrot, Ghostrider please abort from your current flight pattern.

Just got the confirmation. PSU:MB will be held in a new location see the following link for more details.

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Tiberias/al-Hamma/


you do realize, that if we went there, wed so get fuckin owned by some islamist fundamentalists.

[Biohazzard56]

More IRC Shenanigans, we said Hamma would either be treated as a king or be kidnapped. Then Squeeky would bust in as leader of his Delta Force Fireteam.

[JetRaiden]

More IRC Shenanigans, we said Hamma would either be treated as a king or be kidnapped. Then Squeeky would bust in as leader of his Delta Force Fireteam.

Squeeky in charge of a single Delta Force fire team? hold me :scared:

[Infernus]

Squeeky in charge of a single Delta Force fire team? hold me :scared:


Gladly

[Squeeky]

Squeeky in charge of a single Delta Force fire team? hold me :scared:

Eagle's Nest this is Blackbird, the sparrow's are in flight. Repeat, the sparrow's are in flight.

*radio garble*

Roger Blackbird, proceed to LZ Sierra for extraction. Motherbird is en route.

:cool:

[Everay]

(motherbird blows up)

[Lartnev]

Oh, yeah. You can trust them. Remember the integration of Sanctuary Strikes?

They would have sucked anyway

No fair. I ne'er saw that movie.

Oh dear.

[Triggar]

Biohazzard is banned. No Bravo for YOU!

[Lartnev]

:eek: :scared:

[Infernus]

Biohazzard is banned. No Bravo for YOU!

:jawdrop: :jawdrop:





Er... owned? :confused:

[JetRaiden]

Biohazzard is banned. No Bravo for YOU!

:rofl: ha...OWNED

[biodemon]

Hey trigga how long are you gonna plan PSU:MB for week ,4 days?

[Triggar]

Probably the same as Alpha, a weekend.

[biodemon]

Maybe in the future would you like to set up a PSU:M for like an entire week?

[Dharkbayne]

Biohazzard is banned. No Bravo for YOU!

r u serios? (http://www.ruserios.com)

[Triggar]

Maybe in the future would you like to set up a PSU:M for like an entire week?

All signs point to "no".

Most people who came to Alpha were adults with full-time jobs. Getting Friday off is one thing, getting an entire week off is a different ballgame. Also, the cost for the event would be double or triple what it was for Alpha.

[Strygun]

School is also a factor (at least, it was for me.) I missed two days of school (including two days of my college history class (which also included an exam.))

I'm hoping I won't be missing school next year, either. I get two weeks off in October, so I will definately be suggesting those days when the time comes to vote on when PSU:MB will happen. Either that, or during the summer before school starts. We shall see.

[Lartnev]

July/August is smack bang in the middle of Uni Summer holidays for me. However next year I start a year in Industry so we shall see how that pans out.

[Triggar]

All signs point to July.

I'll keep you posted.

[OneManArmy]

yea, i missed a day of class myself and of course work. so july would be groovy.

[Squeeky]

Fuck it, let's just all meet up at my house next week. Cool?

[JetRaiden]

Fuck it, let's just all meet up at my house next week. Cool?

:lol: Im game.

[Morbeth]

Well, I sould like to get to a PSU:M some day. But currently being overseas (Okinawa, Japan) makes it difficult. But for Bravo, I'll be just getting to Virginia around that time frame, so it goes out the window as well. Maybe I'll have better luck for Charlie, if it happens.

[JetRaiden]

Well, I sould like to get to a PSU:M some day. But currently being overseas (Okinawa, Japan) makes it difficult. But for Bravo, I'll be just getting to Virginia around that time frame, so it goes out the window as well. Maybe I'll have better luck for Charlie, if it happens.

Japan? Dayum.

[Morbeth]

Yea, it stinks. Been here for about 8 months now, and haven't been able to play much Planetside because there's no broadband where I'm currently at (maybe in another few weeks it'll be here). Last weekend was the first time I got in about 6 months, and I went over to a friend's house to do it.

[EineBeBoP]

Welcome to PSU Morbeth. new guy or lurker?

I think i might actually like you.... :scared:

[Morbeth]

I've been around PS for a year now, but only recently signed up for the PSU forums. I'm not heavily active (posting) on the official forums. I primarily just read the Dev tracker and tech support forum. And I post heavily on my outfit forum (The only outfit I was able to stay active with when I left for Japan).

[AztecWarrior]

Are you stationed there, living there, or just Japanese?

[Morbeth]

Stationed here. It's not too bad here, just that I haven't had a lot of time to go and take advantage of some of the site seeing opportunities here. And I've been told that Okinawa has some of the best SCUBA diving in the world (which I'd like to do, but haven't had enough free time yet to get the classes).

[Corrosion]

Stationed here. It's not too bad here, just that I haven't had a lot of time to go and take advantage of some of the site seeing opportunities here. And I've been told that Okinawa has some of the best SCUBA diving in the world (which I'd like to do, but haven't had enough free time yet to get the classes).
A member of BOHICA is stationed in Okinawa in the USMC.

[Morbeth]

So am I (USMC). He must live out in town, one of the southern camps that all ready have cable internet (edit follows) or is in a spot to get the wireless internet that's avalible in some locations. The camp I'm on is up north with no broadband (yet). And I wasn't going to pay the rippoff prices for a phone and 120 hours of dial-up internet.

[SkunkPunk]

ill be at psu:mz

[JetRaiden]

ill be at psu:mz

see you there! :rolleyes:

[HotrodHG]

Nice, should be able to attend that one

[Squeeky]

Welcome to PSU Morbeth. And thank you for your service oversea's sir :D

Tag one of dem asians while you're over there :o

[Ivan]

My brother was just in Japan for a month touring with a musical, 42nd Street. He and his group loved to go to eat at Korean BBQs. Where they served you raw meat of your choice and you have this little grill on the table where you and everyone else in your group cook your own meat the way you like it. He craves them now. I wish I would have went, his production company said they would have paid for the hotel room to stay with them but not the flight costs. :(

[Morbeth]

Thanks guys. And the better women are from mainland Japan, not from Okinawa (unfortunatly).

There's a nice little BBQ resturant down near Okinawa city that does that, and it's all you can eat too. I went there for lunch once, nice little place. But I've aquired a thing for curry. There's a nice curry place about 20 min from where I am that I go to about 3-4 times a month.

[Triggar]

Hey guys, I just wanted to give you a brief update on where we stand at the moment as far as planning is concerned.

Martyr and I decided that we're going to increase security and the Christmas-morning feel of the Event, and only release the hotel information and itinerary with dates and times to the Event Admin. This means that you'll know what's involved in the package you're paying for, but those not attending the event won't know where we are and therefore can't gate crash. We'll release pertinent information to attendees after the registration process is complete. A confidentiality clause will also be included in the registration - a breach of which will result in a ban. A non-refundable one.

Nothing has been booked as of yet, but already we've heard people threaten to disrupt the peace and smoothness of the event. I don't think that's fair to the 40 people who paid their hard-earned money to come, do you?

[Squeeky]

Absoloutely not. :love:

Just perch Manitou up on a balchony with his M1. He'll keep us safe :D

[Indecisive]

Martyr and I decided that we're going to increase security and the Christmas-morning feel of the Event, and only release the hotel information and itinerary with dates and times to the Event Admin.



I dont like. And neither will my parents. Im pretty sure most parents want concrete dates, times, and such FAR ahead of time.

[Triggar]

We will let you know specifically what we will be doing, there will be no surprises to you. You'll know everything before you register. After you register, you will get a detailed itinerary.

If your parents would like hotel information beforehand, have them call me and I would be glad to give it to them. However we will not publish that information publically.

[Infernus]

We will let you know specifically what we will be doing, there will be no surprises to you. You'll know everything before you register. After you register, you will get a detailed itinerary.

If your parents would like hotel information beforehand, have them call me and I would be glad to give it to them. However we will not publish that information publically.

My dad says that if your taking me off his hands for a weekend you're trustable...


...my mom on the other hand... she's worried to even let me come visit your school =/

[Indecisive]

Okies.

[Triggar]

...my mom on the other hand... she's worried to even let me come visit your school =/

Tell her to blow up ma' cellie. We'll have a girl talk. She'll let you come down, oh yes!

[Infernus]

Tell her to blow up ma' cellie. We'll have a girl talk. She'll let you come down, oh yes!

Rgr... hmm girl talk... that usually leads to either shopping or... lesbian shenanigans?

[Triggar]

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

[Infernus]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I know, the thought is sickening... *shudder*

[Ivan]

Rgr... hmm girl talk... that usually leads to either shopping or... lesbian shenanigans?
I hope the mental image of your mother engaging in lesbian shenanigans in now burnt into your mind for saying that. :rofl:

[Infernus]

I hope the mental image of your mother engaging in lesbian shenanigans in now burnt into your mind for saying that. :rofl:

GAH! GAH GAH GAH!

I didnt even read what she said... I saw girl talk and thought 'lesbian shens' ...GAH GAH GAH!

/me cries

[Electrofreak]

wow. nice job inf, nice job :p

[Lartnev]

/me desperately tries to change the topic

Martyr and I decided that we're going to increase security and the Christmas-morning feel of the Event, and only release the hotel information and itinerary with dates and times to the Event Admin.

Good idea :nod:


It's.... not....working... Inf's mum... :ugh: :sick:

[Infernus]

/me desperately tries to change the topic



Good idea :nod:


It's.... not....working... Inf's mum... :ugh: :sick:

:sick: :sick: wrist slit...

[Ivan]

http://www.tridot.net/images/stuff/slit.jpg

[Infernus]

http://www.tridot.net/images/stuff/slit.jpg

Been there... done that... :love:

[JetRaiden]

I got a feeling this may be the longest PSU thread evar. maybe trailling closely behind the New Word Association Thread or "What are you listening to right now" Thread.

[Triggar]

That would be cool :)

[Infernus]

Bravo Ovarload!

[Squeeky]

Been there... done that... :love:

Dont go there Spider :rolleyes:

[Infernus]

Dont go there Spider :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

right whatever... I don't needa explain myself to you...

:rolleyes:

[biodemon]

Wait is it still planned for next summer or has it changed to an earlier time or what?

[martyr]

http://www.goof.com/~pmurphy/images/silly/panic.png

[Corrosion]

http://www.goof.com/~pmurphy/images/silly/panic.png
:love: D. Adams

[Triggar]

Bio, we still haven't set the dates yet.

Trust me, you guys won't miss any of the details as we develop them.

[biodemon]

Ok cause when you said christman, and 40 people registered i got a little worried(i didnt read the rest of the posts).

[MrVicchio]

Gratz you two. :)

[Firefly]

Hey guys, I just wanted to give you a brief update on where we stand at the moment as far as planning is concerned.
I sent you a message about the mention of a fall/winter event in Atlanta... which is where I live. Did you receive that?

Nothing has been booked as of yet, but already we've heard people threaten to disrupt the peace and smoothness of the event.
I hate my good times being spoiled by shitheads. Rest assured, if I get upset and cranky because some obnoxious little shit decided to disrupt my peace and sanctity of mind, there will be steeltoed Doc Martins flying up people's asses.

I might even shoe my own ass, just so I'll have them. [/jerkyboys off]

[AztecWarrior]

If you would have banned the Black Hawks, Trigg, you would have banned me.

[Triggar]

I can't control an outfit. Only an outfit can control the members.

Firefly, I hope to God you come to Bravo. I'd feel a lot more comfortable knowing you were around :)

I did get your PM - I don't know why I didn't respond, probably because I'm lazy. I'm planning on doing a get-together for my outfit (Sons of Vanu) in Atlanta sometime over Christmas break, I'd love to make you an honorary Vanu and have you show us around! ;)

[Firefly]

I'm planning on doing a get-together for my outfit (Sons of Vanu) in Atlanta sometime over Christmas break, I'd love to make you an honorary Vanu and have you show us around! ;)
No way in hell am I ever wearing anything Vanu. I'm somewhat of a purist, except for that time I stole a Magrider from TangoUniform and drove it around mowing, just to see what it was like.

[Lartnev]

You can be the TR ambassador then :)

[Firefly]

omg tr41t0r!! 4th empirez0rz!!

[Baneblade]

Sierra-Oscar-Bravo-Echo-Kilo-Echo-Uniform-Sierra will go to MB as long as it isn't goin to be another Disney Adventure.

I want that paintball war hehe. I'll bring an AMS. :evil:

[JetRaiden]

Sierra-Oscar-Bravo-Echo-Kilo-Echo-Uniform-Sierra will go to MB as long as it isn't goin to be another Disney Adventure.

I want that paintball war hehe. I'll bring an AMS. :evil:

and I wanna bring my marker thats basically the equivalent of a bolt driver and a minichaingun, only faster. :p


:(

[Indecisive]

No.

[Baneblade]

No.
Yes

[JetRaiden]

No.

:tear: :tear: :tear:

[EineBeBoP]

So.... my chances of going have droped tremendously.

:(

Theres a good chance ill be 7,000 miles away enjoying a hot chocolate with Kalta/Frag/Hezzy. The rents decided they want to go to Europe (mostly England) again this summer (since we didnt go this last summer)

SO we gotta see what dates are and such and check prices.

guess well see

[Infernus]

So.... my chances of going have droped tremendously.

:(

Theres a good chance ill be 7,000 miles away enjoying a hot chocolate with Kalta/Frag/Hezzy. The rents decided they want to go to Europe (mostly England) again this summer (since we didnt go this last summer)

SO we gotta see what dates are and such and check prices.

guess well see

I thought the limies were going to MB

[Triggar]

Let me reiterate:

You will not be permitted to bring your own paintball gear.

Martyr and I should have a rough-draft of the weekend created by the end of this week, so we should be posting preliminary details by the weekend (depending on when we get back to Florida).

We decided that we'll post the details of the event - date, price, what we're doing - a week in advance. You'll then have a week to decide if it's something you want to do. A week later, we'll send out an email to the Admin, then the people from Alpha with the link to registration. The next day, CDL and SoV will get a different link for registration, then the day after that PSU will get their turn. After that, we'll open it up to the public - if there are any spots left.

[Baneblade]

You should name a CR5 for each side:p

[JetRaiden]

Let me reiterate:

You will not be permitted to bring your own paintball gear.

Martyr and I should have a rough-draft of the weekend created by the end of this week, so we should be posting preliminary details by the weekend (depending on when we get back to Florida).

We decided that we'll post the details of the event - date, price, what we're doing - a week in advance. You'll then have a week to decide if it's something you want to do. A week later, we'll send out an email to the Admin, then the people from Alpha with the link to registration. The next day, CDL and SoV will get a different link for registration, then the day after that PSU will get their turn. After that, we'll open it up to the public - if there are any spots left.

yay!

[AztecWarrior]

Don't start pulling your hair out already, MB isn't for at least ten months.

[Triggar]

Registration will be open well in advance.

Probably within the next 6 or so weeks, so start saving. You will have to pay when you register. No repeats of last time's headaches for meeeeeee.

[EineBeBoP]

Then my chances have dropped to nearly-nill as my parents dont know any dates yet, and wont let me go on the lone fact that you guys were ready first. :(

[JetRaiden]

Don't start pulling your hair out already, MB isn't for at least ten months.


psh, I already got my bags packed and plane tickets purchased. well no, Im just pressing the Mobilization admin to let me bring my marker of justice. :(

[Triggar]

Not going to happen, sorry.

We don't even know if there'll be paintball on the itinerary anyway, so relax!

[Infernus]

Registration will be open well in advance.

Probably within the next 6 or so weeks, so start saving. You will have to pay when you register. No repeats of last time's headaches for meeeeeee.


Me: "MOM! Hows your credit card!"

[JetRaiden]

Not going to happen, sorry.

We don't even know if there'll be paintball on the itinerary anyway, so relax!

ok, ok.

/me calms down

since there isnt a Disney World in San Diego, I think its gonna be prime op for a LAN party.

[Triggar]

We'll see.

On the list of places to investigate:

-San Diego zoo
-Paintball
-LAN

I'll keep you posted.

There'll also be an option to stay and hang out at the pool. Like we said earlier, you'll pay for a "basic package" that everyone has to get in order to come, then you can add some things on it. I'm not sure what we're going to make a part of the basic package - group events like Disney were a lot of fun, gave us a great opportunity to hang out and meet up and enjoy eachother's company, so the Zoo or something might be tacked into the basic - and what we're going to make a deployment.

Watch this space.

[Baneblade]

Could charter a boat...just a thought.

[JetRaiden]

We'll see.

On the list of places to investigate:

-San Diego zoo
-Paintball
-LAN

I'll keep you posted.

There'll also be an option to stay and hang out at the pool. Like we said earlier, you'll pay for a "basic package" that everyone has to get in order to come, then you can add some things on it. I'm not sure what we're going to make a part of the basic package - group events like Disney were a lot of fun, gave us a great opportunity to hang out and meet up and enjoy eachother's company, so the Zoo or something might be tacked into the basic - and what we're going to make a deployment.

Watch this space.

btw Trig, I know in San Diego this NPPL team Dynasty has a clinic thing for paintball, I heard its alot of fun, plus I idolize some of their players. Its kind of like a course to get better at paintball, but its friendly to noobs and vets alike. Ill look into prices, dates, etc. If by some chance, that clinic is THAT same weekend, and prices are reasonable, could I bring my marker for that? :(

[Triggar]

No.

:p

But keep me posted, that sounds cool!

[JetRaiden]

fuck me...

they moved it to syracuse and its $299 per person. :doh:

well looks like its off PSU:MB, but still on my top priorities.

edit: Ill look into other stuff. I know San Diego is the paintball capital of the west coast and I dont want you guys going to a crappy field. :cool:

[biodemon]

Well triggar you are aware that Christmas is soon and opening registration in 6 weeks would be kind of chaotic, cause when every one is done Christmas shopping there is no more bank. So they won�t be able to pay for PSU:MB. If anything do it in Feb so that people have money saved.

[JetRaiden]

Well triggar you are aware that Christmas is soon and opening registration in 6 weeks would be kind of chaotic, cause when every one is done Christmas shopping there is no more bank. So they won�t be able to pay for PSU:MB. If anything do it in Feb so that people have money saved.

I thought she meant 6 weeks prior to PSUMB :doh:

[Triggar]

People, please do not take what I say in this thread as gospel - yet.

Everything I post is simply to keep you current on the planning process, and where we stand. Everything I've posted thusfar is subject to change, and probably will change.

[Everay]

take your time trig, still got quite a while till next year, and i need to get another job too.

[Triggar]

Well, the reason that we were going to have registration early is so that I have time to get everything paid for and contracts mailed back and meetings completed, et cetera. Just having people signed on doesn't do me much good, but when I have a list of people and all the money that's going to come in, I can take care of everything when I have to, and have enough time to make changes as the need arises.

That's why the registration will be opened when it is, because I don't want a repeat headache from last year when I had six weeks to take care of everything. It's very stressful.

[Magen]

I am interested in this Triggar... I think it would be a hoot...

I haven't been back to San Diego since 1991 when I was stationed there in the Navy...


Cheers...

[Triggar]

I don't know who you are, but I assume you're new so welcome aboard :)

Keep an eye out on this thread; this is where I'll announce the big details, including when registration will be.

Also, keep an eye out on my blog (http://staff.planetside-universe.com/martyr/triggar/), because I leak details there from time to time.

Like the one I'm about to announce in a few posts :p

[Magen]

Thanks Triggar...

I'm not new to the Planetside scene, but I'm new on here.. in the past I just lurked alot.

Appreciate the warm welcome..

v/r,
Magen

[JetRaiden]

welcone magen! :wave:

its great to see more of you sturmies have interest in the PSU MObilizations.

[Mag]

'ello, Magen... welcome to the ever growing list of people who's monikers are roughly similar to mine.

[Ivan]

Oh Oh! I want to go to the Zoo!

Jet, chill out. It's not the marker that makes the player... If you have true skill you and I will rock the newbies even with rentals! Triggar might put us on separate teams then... :D


Welcome Magen! :wave:

Note to all the lurkers out there... POST!

I lurked for a long time. Then I whored. Then I was made a mod. This is a great community, so join in. We even plan get togethers as you can see. :)

[Triggar]

And on that note.

Ladies and Gentleweirdos of the PSU community, it is with great pride that I announce the date of Planetside Universe Mobilization Bravo.

PSU:MB will be held from Friday July 15th, 2005 to Monday July 18th, 2005.

Mark your calendars, get the weekend off work, you've been warned.

[Firefly]

Party on the 18th!!

That's my birthday.

[Triggar]

r33t, now you have to come! :groovy:

[Indecisive]

Mark your calendars, get the weekend off work, you've been warned.

Or else.



My birthdays the 4th..little late for me :p

[BizSAR]

Gentleweirdos??

The man-hate is strong in this one...:p
...and I strongly resemble that remark!

[JetRaiden]

woot!

/me buys plane tickets

[Triggar]

Should probably wait to see if you secure yourself a spot first.

[JetRaiden]

Should probably wait to see if you secure yourself a spot first.

psh. I dont think thatll be a problem. :cool:

[Triggar]

Haha, why, you planning on bribing the Admin?*













I accept PayPal.

[BizSAR]

Yeah, I highly suspect that by the time registrations are opened up to PSU, there's only going to be a couple of spots left (I predict 1-2). ...and those will be taken...

I also predict it won't even make it to the public, which seems to have been the intention all along.

I'm hoping all goes so well with PSU:MB so that SOE will get off their collective arses and hold a real community-wide convention.

[Triggar]

What, you don't think PSU's Mobilizations are a real convention?

I have more news, I'll post it later if you guys are interested :groovy:

[JetRaiden]

What, you don't think PSU's Mobilizations are a real convention?

I have more news, I'll post it later if you guys are interested :groovy:

um, is it even possible for us NOT to be interested??

post it a-sap

[Triggar]

I forgot what it was.

OH YEAH.

Hamma felt the multi-teared registration system (i.e. Alpha attendees -> CDL/SoV -> PSU -> Public) was too elitist (can you imagine? US, ELITIST?? :lol: ), so we decided to change it.

Here's what we're going to do now:

Day 1: PSU gets a change to register.
Day 2: Everyone else gets a chance to register.

You likey?

[ViperGTS]

1337

[JetRaiden]

NOOOO :tear: :tear: :Tear: :tear: :tear:


what gets me a spot in advance? :(

[Triggar]

Jack squat baby. Jack squat.

[Ivan]

I forgot what it was.

OH YEAH.

Hamma felt the multi-teared registration system (i.e. Alpha attendees -> CDL/SoV -> PSU -> Public) was too elitist (can you imagine? US, ELITIST?? :lol: ), so we decided to change it.

Here's what we're going to do now:

Day 1: PSU gets a change to register.
Day 2: Everyone else gets a chance to register.

You likey?
What I don't understand is what is the difference of a PSU member and someone that isn't? I mean PSU is a public site. Anyone can join PSU at anytime they wish. So how do you distinguish the two?

[Triggar]

Ah, right.

Hamma said that registered users on PSU can sign up for the Mobilization. Registration for the site will cut off about a week before registration for the Mobilization opens up.

[AztecWarrior]

The caste system would only really be a problem for the unregistereds.

[Triggar]

Yeah I'm not worried about it.

[Squeeky]

Props to Hamma. Doug (IRL Friend) wants to attend PSU:MB and kept bitching about how elitist it was to have the caste system. Thanks Hamma :love:

[Baneblade]

People, please do not take what I say in this thread as gospel - yet.

Everything I post is simply to keep you current on the planning process, and where we stand. Everything I've posted thusfar is subject to change, and probably will change.
Wtf, I just finished Leviticus.

[JetRaiden]

trig can you maybe send me an email that says the exact time registering will start? I mean, whenever that would be availible. pretty pleeeease :(

also, I may have a RL friend come with me to this, he wanted to go to Alpha, but I didnt tell him about it until about a week before. :p

Ill have him get familiar with everyone at least a few months in advance.

[Triggar]

We will let everyone on PSU know when registrations will be, two weeks ahead of time.

[Infernus]

We will let everyone on PSU know when registrations will be, two weeks ahead of time.

Good... I can't wait!

[Triggar]

You'll have to, sonny!!

We've got like, a drawing of what the weekend will look like. We have a list of hotels that we've selected from a big huge list of hotels, and Martyr and I will look more closely at them tomorrow then hopefully make a reservation.

Oh yeah, if you didn't like the sharing-the-beds thing at PSUMA, don't come to Bravo. I think I'm going to make it a trademark of the Mobilizations! You get really close to other attendees. I like it.

Tomorrow we'll also be talking more about the optional deployment idea, and decide if we're going to keep it or if we'll make it like Alpha where we all do the same things. We'll see.

[Ivan]

I say we all stick together. It might be more and harder work for you and martyr to try to organize two groups doing two differnt things at once. Keep it simple.

[Baneblade]

I think it should be at least mildly PS themed. I like the empire paintball idea hehe.

[Triggar]

The trouble though is pleasing 40 people. If I say, "day 2, we're all going to the zoo", I'll have 20 people mad. If I say, "Day 2, we're all going to paintball", I'd have the other 20 people pissed off.

The joys of being an Event Coordinator, eh.

[Ivan]

The trouble though is pleasing 40 people. If I say, "day 2, we're all going to the zoo", I'll have 20 people mad. If I say, "Day 2, we're all going to paintball", I'd have the other 20 people pissed off.

The joys of being an Event Coordinator, eh.
Point taken. I'm glad I'm not you. :D

Though, for me... Zoo or Paintball... that's a hard one. I love animals and I love paintball. But I'd galdly offer up my help with the paintball group anyway you might need.

[Baneblade]

Well, then let's compromise. We all get to paintball at the zoo and the zookeepers get to play as the Vanu clones we dug up or summat. When the Elephant eats my Enforcer, we might have to leave...

[Triggar]

I actually found a bunch of options for Day 2.

San Diego has an amusement park called Belmont Park (?), google search it.

There's also an aquarium, and a science museum that looks cool.

Also, a r33t go-carting place.

[JetRaiden]

I actually found a bunch of options for Day 2.

San Diego has an amusement park called Belmont Park (?), google search it.

There's also an aquarium, and a science museum that looks cool.

Also, a r33t go-carting place.

leet.

also....























http://www.paintballfanatics.com/images/product/WGP_Nightkast_blk_lrg.jpg

pleeeease? :( I PROMISE It wont be a PWNing session.

[Baneblade]

leet.

also....























http://www.paintballfanatics.com/images/product/WGP_Nightkast_blk_lrg.jpg

pleeeease? :( I PROMISE It wont be a PWNing session.
You want to bring an AMP? :rofl:

[Ivan]

Stop... If you can't "pwn" with a rental, you suck at paintball.

[Triggar]

JetRaiden, go ahead. Ask me one more time.

Know what it feels like to have your IP banned from registration? No? Want to find out?

[Indecisive]

Oh yeah, if you didn't like the sharing-the-beds thing at PSUMA, don't come to Bravo. I think I'm going to make it a trademark of the Mobilizations! You get really close to other attendees. I like it.




Noted, and mental note to pack air matress again to crash in the cornor

[Triggar]

Hehehe, I'll shave next time ;)

[Ivan]

Hehehe, I'll shave next time ;)
:huh: :rofl:

[Magen]

I actually found a bunch of options for Day 2.

San Diego has an amusement park called Belmont Park (?), google search it.

There's also an aquarium, and a science museum that looks cool.

Also, a r33t go-carting place.


Triggar, there's lots of cool stuff to do in San Diego, I lived there for a few years back in the late 80's early 90's. San Diego has an excellent trolly system which runs throughout the entire city all the way down to the border of Mexico. It's an easy walk to Tijuania if those wishing to partake in spirits which might not be of legal age (in this country) can go to.

There's also Coronado island, and alot to do in the area... atleast if memory serves..

The San Diego Zoo is quite fantastic, along with the normal touristy attractions...

[Triggar]

Tijuania

Oi! Don't give the punks any ideas!! Any underage drinkers at PSUMB will have a fun time explaining to their parents why they need $100 to change their plane tickets to come home early. You will be kicked out of the event if we suspect that you have been drinking and aren't legal.

What is Coronado Island?

Tell me more about the Zoo - I personally am very interested in this as an option, but I want everyone else to be as well :)

[Ivan]

I really, really want to got to the zoo!

[NoSurrender]

oh noes registration in 6 weeks, wow i need to go nab a job.

[Triggar]

RE: The zoo

Me too http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/fk/bubbles.gif

Also, I said registration will probably be up in six weeks. It could be four weeks (highly unlikely), or it could be three months.

You will know in advance, don't worry.

[Magen]

The San Diego zoo is quite awesome, one of the best in America.

It would take hours to explain it... here's their link on the web

http://www.sandiegozoo.org

Remember I haven't been there in 13 years, but when my wife and I went it was awesome to say the least...

[Corrosion]

So.... my chances of going have droped tremendously.

:(

Theres a good chance ill be 7,000 miles away enjoying a hot chocolate with Kalta/Frag/Hezzy. The rents decided they want to go to Europe (mostly England) again this summer (since we didnt go this last summer)

SO we gotta see what dates are and such and check prices.

guess well see
Holy crap. My chances just plummeted.

[Magen]

Some San Diego info..

Ok folks, I used to live in San Diego (San Dog as we used to call it..), back in 91' some things have changed, others stay the same. Here's some info.. on some of the things to do there...

http://www.hoteldel.com/

A classic historic hotel, The Del was built in 1888 and designated a National Historic Landmark in 1977. Awesome hotel, very classy!!! Think of the eagles song, Hotel California...

City of Coronado - http://www.coronado.ca.us/

Here's a link to the visitor center - http://www.coronadovisitorcenter.com/

On Coronado you can rent bicycles, and pedal almost everywhere, lots of mansions to see, awesome beaches. Coronado is linked to the city of San Diego by a big bridge.. I used to have to go over here every once and a while when my ship docked at the Navy base on Coronado.. sometimes the traffic can really suck here..

I happen to find a holiday inn/seaworld package... here's a link:

holiday inn - seaworld

http://www.himb.com/especials.php?OV=san_diego_vacation_$80

Don't forget about the San Diego mission, it was the first of 21 historic missions definately one to stop by take photos to show the folks back home (if your not paying for this by yourself) that you actually got a bit of class and took in some of the historic sites... see we're all not about partying all day long...

Ahh there's also the San Diego zoo, which is quite awesome..

Old Town is fantastic, but I haven't been there in a loooong time...

Can't forget about Legoland - For the kid inside

Here's a link: http://www.lego.com/legoland/california/default.asp?locale=2057

Old Town - awesome place... minutes from downtown San Diego

Here's a link to a major attraction in old town: Bazaar del Mundo

http://bazaardelmundo.com/home.html


Cheers,

Magen

[Baneblade]

Is it required that we fly? I can drive there is less than 6 hours...depending on how many CHP I uncover.

[Magen]

Oh something else I forgot, usually the Navy base (32nd street Naval station) has a "visit ship" program. I can't remember if it's at the base or downtown San Diego these days, as there is a pier at the end of downtown S.D. for the ships to pull up to.

Essentially a ship is designated each week (or atleast was) which the general public can take a guided tour.

It's quite cool if you've never been on a US Navy warship before...

Wonder if TopGun (Miramar Naval Air station)has an tour spots anymore...

humm...

[Triggar]

Sobekus, it is not necessary that you fly. Get there however you want, assuming you've registered and paid for the event already :p

Magen, thanks so much for the info. I've got a browser full of links open right now; I'll have a look at everything you posted and take it into consideration when planning the final itinerary!

[Squeeky]

If only it was in late October. We could do the Air Show :D :D

[Baneblade]

Cool, will the price be affected by flying or not? I didn't go to MA so I dunno how that worked.

[Infernus]

Cool, will the price be affected by flying or not? I didn't go to MA so I dunno how that worked.

Negative. Flight arrangements are dealt with seperatly by the people going... they have no effect on the base cost of the event.

[Baneblade]

Affirmative India-November-Six

[BizSAR]

Many thanks to Hamma for doing away with the caste system! :clap:

Yes, it was a little elitist, for a community-minded event anyway.

Now, I just have to save up for TWO "mobilizations" (I'm helping organize one for the Strength And Honour guild - PlanetSide division/outfit next summer) ...my chances for this one just increased to "maybe" from "next to impossible". ;)

[Mag]

Everyone send Biz a dollar.

[oddfish]

i think i'll be able to make it to this one :D

[Indecisive]

Bah, I liked the caste system, because we knew that if you were in the top 2 tiers, we knew that you wouldnt cause problems, and would fun to be around.

1st teir: If you went to the first one and acted fine, why wouldnt you the next time comes around? (Plus we have already demonstrated that we are good money-wise)

2nd teir: CDL/SoV ...If you diddnt pay up, or act correctly you would
a. Have your ass kicked by Hamma/Martyr respectively
and
b. wtfpwned clan wise

In addtition to the standard punishments.



I diddnt see anything wrong with it, but oh well, I kinda did fit into every single teir :p

[JetRaiden]

Some San Diego info..

Ok folks, I used to live in San Diego (San Dog as we used to call it..), back in 91' some things have changed, others stay the same. Here's some info.. on some of the things to do there...

http://www.hoteldel.com/

A classic historic hotel, The Del was built in 1888 and designated a National Historic Landmark in 1977. Awesome hotel, very classy!!! Think of the eagles song, Hotel California...

City of Coronado - http://www.coronado.ca.us/

Here's a link to the visitor center - http://www.coronadovisitorcenter.com/

On Coronado you can rent bicycles, and pedal almost everywhere, lots of mansions to see, awesome beaches. Coronado is linked to the city of San Diego by a big bridge.. I used to have to go over here every once and a while when my ship docked at the Navy base on Coronado.. sometimes the traffic can really suck here..

I happen to find a holiday inn/seaworld package... here's a link:

holiday inn - seaworld

http://www.himb.com/especials.php?OV=san_diego_vacation_$80

Don't forget about the San Diego mission, it was the first of 21 historic missions definately one to stop by take photos to show the folks back home (if your not paying for this by yourself) that you actually got a bit of class and took in some of the historic sites... see we're all not about partying all day long...

Ahh there's also the San Diego zoo, which is quite awesome..

Old Town is fantastic, but I haven't been there in a loooong time...

Can't forget about Legoland - For the kid inside

Here's a link: http://www.lego.com/legoland/california/default.asp?locale=2057

Old Town - awesome place... minutes from downtown San Diego

Here's a link to a major attraction in old town: Bazaar del Mundo

http://bazaardelmundo.com/home.html


Cheers,

Magen

I went to the Hotel Del Coronado earlier this year. Im pretty sure its not very cheap. :(

You want to bring an AMP? :rofl:

:mad: fuck you. ac nightkast > you

Stop... If you can't "pwn" with a rental, you suck at paintball.

Im not saying I cant, I just hate getting a ball break if you get 5 trigger pulls in like 2 seconds. :doh: besides, NO ONE can do as good in Paintball with a tippman 98 as they can with a DM4 or Karnivor

JetRaiden, go ahead. Ask me one more time.

Know what it feels like to have your IP banned from registration? No? Want to find out?
:tear:

[Indecisive]

besides, NO ONE can do as good in Paintball with a tippman 98 as they can with a DM4 or Karnivor



Which is the god damn fucking point. So we can be on a level playing field.

Disscusion is DONE. No amount of the :tear: smiley can change it.

[Triggar]

Not only that, but we don't even think we'll have paintball on the agenda anymore. The general consensus has been that people liked the "everyone go to one place" thing. That's where we're leaning at the moment, but again, it's subject to change.

[Indecisive]

Personally, I dont like the zoo. Of course thats family experiences, I find it boring.

However, this is PSU, and I know it could be funny as hell.

Of course the same could be true for paintball. Meh, I dont care, paintball stings, zoo isnt exactly entralling, SOE needs to move their headquartes to san fran :p



Oh, and I need to find a job, my mom said she would front me the money If I had the means to pay it back, which atm I dont.

[biodemon]

It would be a good idea to have the whole group together it would cut on the transportation costs.

[Corrosion]

Not only that, but we don't even think we'll have paintball on the agenda anymore. The general consensus has been that people liked the "everyone go to one place" thing. That's where we're leaning at the moment, but again, it's subject to change.
WHAT??!?!

Who DOESNT like paintball?

Besides, it doesnt hurt THAT much.

[Triggar]

Bio, it wouldn't affect travel costs. If we had options for Day 2, transportation would be included with the cost of the optional event.

[biodemon]

Whats the rally point in sandiego?

[Dharkbayne]

WP 2 Gold, check your map.

[Triggar]

Biodemon, I don't understand your question.

[Ivan]

http://www.tridot.net/images/stuff/PSUMACommandRoom.jpg

[Triggar]

:lol:

[Infernus]

Biodemon, I don't understand your question.

I think he means are we meeting at the airport, or the hotel, or a brothel, or something else?

[Triggar]

I have no idea. Nothing has been set in stone yet.

[Baneblade]

What about diving?

[MattxMosh]

I vote Brothel.

[martyr]

we had drivers meet us at the airport for alpha, it worked out pretty well

[Baneblade]

Scuba diving...there is this big wet puddle called the Pacific Ocean in that general area.

[Ivan]

We'll be meeting at Spork's house. Just don't tell him that.

Diving? No thank's. I'll skip that one.

[JetRaiden]

Id be up for some extreme sport stuff. just about everything, Im game. :D

[Triggar]

Yeah YOU would be up for some extreme sport stuff. But there's a group of 40 people. Think all 40 would be up for that? Me neither.

[JetRaiden]

Yeah YOU would be up for some extreme sport stuff. But there's a group of 40 people. Think all 40 would be up for that? Me neither.

heh. we'd need a C-47 to go skydiving anyway...

btw whats the pop cap on PSUMB? I wanna know if Im gonna have to be there the second registrations open.

[Mag]

Ah, and seeing as this thread is insanely long, I may have missed it, do we need 100% of the cash to register? Or can we get that to you in increments?

[Ivan]

Ah, and seeing as this thread is insanely long, I may have missed it, do we need 100% of the cash to register? Or can we get that to you in increments?
Yes.

[Infernus]

Yes.

Multiple choice...

[Triggar]

- You have to pay the full amount for the event at the time of registration. No deposit/balance deal like for Alpha - that caused too many headaches for me. Don't ask me how much the event will cost. I will make it perfectly clear when we figure it out :)

- Jet, the "pop cap" is 40 people, including Martyr, me, Hamma, Jen, Mars, Mani, etc.

[JetRaiden]

- You have to pay the full amount for the event at the time of registration. No deposit/balance deal like for Alpha - that caused too many headaches for me. Don't ask me how much the event will cost. I will make it perfectly clear when we figure it out :)

- Jet, the "pop cap" is 40 people, including Martyr, me, Hamma, Jen, Mars, Mani, etc.

:) ok thanks. Im just really, really wondered that I might not get a spot. :( oh well, I got plenty of other things to worry about right now anyway.

[biodemon]

Ahh crap the full cost at registration?!?! Dont you think its a good idea to let them know a moth or 2 ahead of time before you open up registration, cause I look on the forums one day and it sais "Register now cost is 500$" I know i wount be able to pay that that day cause i didnt know how much it was going to be.

[Triggar]

I just want to stress once more that things are still at the "blank slate" stage. We've got rough drafts and ideas of what we'd like to see happen, but nothing is set in stone.

I'm sure we can give one month's notice between announcing the cost of the event and the registration. I'm hesitant to give any more than one month due to the fact that without money, I can't get any work done. And that means more crunch time for me. Which is ugly.

EDIT: My advice is to start saving money now. The price of the event will not be any LESS than $350, and it shouldn't be more than $500. This is our way of making sure you're serious about coming, and it's going to save us a lot of trouble.

[Ouroboros]

Hey, I'll be coming to this one. :thumbsup:

[Indecisive]

I just want to stress once more that things are still at the "blank slate" stage. We've got rough drafts and ideas of what we'd like to see happen, but nothing is set in stone.

I'm sure we can give one month's notice between announcing the cost of the event and the registration. I'm hesitant to give any more than one month due to the fact that without money, I can't get any work done. And that means more crunch time for me. Which is ugly.

EDIT: My advice is to start saving money now. The price of the event will not be any LESS than $350, and it shouldn't be more than $500. This is our way of making sure you're serious about coming, and it's going to save us a lot of trouble.


Thats gonna get ugly if you have to pull a mani and cancel.

[JetRaiden]

I still think PSUMA members should be able to register first.

fuck elistism, we're the only ones who knows what the trip is like.

[Lartnev]

I hope that transAtlantic air fares come down in price by July :(

[martyr]

jet, as hamma pointed out, he founded this community to escape from the elitism of the OF community - it only makes sense to follow his direction.

also, i doubt too many of the OF folks are going to be willing to put all the money up immediately, which improves the average PSU'ers chances. that, and you get all this forewarning; you should be fine.

[Triggar]

Thats gonna get ugly if you have to pull a mani and cancel.

Not for us. The fee to attend Mobilization Bravo is non-refundable. Otherwise, the money would come out of my own pocket, and I'm a 22-year-old college student. Not going to happen. Take it or leave it.

[Indecisive]

Which is my point. Mani was sure he could go, but then work acted gay on him, forceing him to cancel. He lost his deposit, but diddnt pay the bulk 260 or whatever it was.

Therefore, with the entire fee upfront, if something shitty like that happens, with circumstances beyond someones control, thats going to be damn shitty if someone gets caught in that situation.

[JetRaiden]

Which is my point. Mani was sure he could go, but then work acted gay on him, forceing him to cancel. He lost his deposit, but diddnt pay the bulk 260 or whatever it was.

Therefore, with the entire fee upfront, if something shitty like that happens, with circumstances beyond someones control, thats going to be damn shitty if someone gets caught in that situation.

shit happens. if everyone schedules everything in a few weeks in advance I doubt this would happen again.

[Firefly]

Scuba diving...there is this big wet puddle called the Pacific Ocean in that general area.
I'm a certified Dive Master with NAUI and I hold PADI certifications as well. I'm currently an assistant instructor, and training to be a fully-qualified instructor. I can help knock that rate down for anyone who wants to go diving (you must be Open-Water certified, I'm not training anyone).

[Dharkbayne]

(you must be Open-Water certified, I'm not training anyone).

Wtf? You need to be certified to go scuba diving?

[Firefly]

Wtf? You need to be certified to go scuba diving?
Um...

yes.

Legally, that is.

[AztecWarrior]

Not only that, but we don't even think we'll have paintball on the agenda anymore. The general consensus has been that people liked the "everyone go to one place" thing. That's where we're leaning at the moment, but again, it's subject to change.

Oh, that is BULLSHIT. They can watch along the sidelines if they don't want to fight, I'm taking my Spyder TL + Boomstick renting out a marker, donning my blue shirt, and fighting for the NC team.

Can we bring a mask and a vest?

[Everay]

triggar, got a date set for when you need the money? if i know thatll light a fire under my ass to get it.

[AztecWarrior]

Nothing is set in stone at this point.

[Everay]

what about a idea set in jello?

[Triggar]

We will keep you posted as soon as we know how much the event will cost.

And Gohan, yeah that does suck if someone has to cancel. But what would suck more is if I've already paid for everything, then someone cancels and wants their money back, but I've already paid for everything, so I'd have to give them their refund out of my own pocket.

Absolutely not going to happen.

[Baneblade]

Well as long as it is clear that no refunds will happen, it shouldn't be an issue.

[Squeeky]

I got fired today, and i have a trip to Mexico coming up. Ruh roh :(

[Fragmatic]

I got fired today, and i have a trip to Mexico coming up. Ruh roh :(

owned. :p

why_ask_why stole my avater :mad:

[Squeeky]

why_ask_why stole my avater :mad:

I saw that :lol:

[biodemon]

Umm what month are you planing this event for?

[Triggar]

And on that note.

Ladies and Gentleweirdos of the PSU community, it is with great pride that I announce the date of Planetside Universe Mobilization Bravo.

PSU:MB will be held from Friday July 15th, 2005 to Monday July 18th, 2005.

Mark your calendars, get the weekend off work, you've been warned.

That was about two pages back.

[Lartnev]

:eek:

[Hamma]

I want to calm everyone here who is all excited about PSU:MB - obviously it is going to happen on the dates we stated. However it is still in the planning stages this time around imo things will have to be slightly different.

Personally, I would like to lower the registration fee as low as possible. This is going to take some time and planning before we go forward. IMO - registration for the event will NOT begin until sometime around the first part of 2005 for a ton of different reasons.

Last but not least I started this site becuase I wanted everyone to be as equal as possible, the original community I came from would shit on anyone who was new and label them as someone who didnt know jack shit. I wil do everything in my power to be sure that never happens here.

Anyway, everyone just chill - its still a ways off.