Starcraft 2 - More than just a rumor?

[Dharkbayne]

http://www.darkcrow.co.kr/image/news/0402/star201.jpg
http://www.darkcrow.co.kr/image/news/0402/star202.jpg

Check out these 2 pictures (that Soltari pointed out to me) the first one appears to be a bunch of siege tanks and the second of a terran base (some of the buildings are familiar), all rendered in 3 demensions.

This is on some Korean site so we took the liberty of "translating" the article for you, what I love the most is that the word "Starcraft" is translated phonetically as "star khu Rae phu thu". From the gibberish I seem to have gathered that the game is late into development or so the writer thinks. Anyways this is pretty defenitive proof that sc2 is underway.

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Disclaimer: I don't know if this is real or not, so don't yell at me.

[Infernus]

Pwnage!

[StrangeFellow]

hfs, i thought theyd never start making it

good find dark

[cyberkiller]

just a rumor, thats a CnC generals mod, you can tell by how they build and the terrain.

[Hezzy]

The models look too crap to be of blizzard origin.

[JetRaiden]

Heh, I just puked with excitement.

[ViperGTS]

just a rumor, thats a CnC generals mod, you can tell by how they build and the terrain.
:indeed:

[ObnoxiousFrog]

You must spawn more Overlords.

[cyberkiller]

Found it.

http://mods.moddb.com/1530/

[Spee]

You must spawn more Overlords.



I....AM BIG.

[ChewyLSB]

Yeah, I recognized it as a Generals mod with the second pic, you can see the transport icon is the same as generals, and the chevrons are from generals.

For some reason, Blizzard hates StarCraft, even though it's their best RTS series (I dare anyone to say WarCraft III: TFT is better than StarCraft: Brood War). I mean, Diablo has what, two expansions and a sequel? WarCraft has 2 sequels and two expansions, and StarCraft has one expansion and that's it.

[Hezzy]

- Project Closed! -
Reason - Blizzard has forbidden distribution a project in connection with infringement of the Copyright.

- Text of letter with the notice on a copyright infringement -

Dear Sir or Madam:

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Please note that all title, ownership, and intellectual property rights in and to each Program and any and all copies thereof (including, but not limited to, any titles, computer code, objects, characters, character names, stories, dialog, catch phrases, locations, artwork, animations, sounds, musical compositions, audio-visual effects, methods of operation, any related documentation, and "applets" incorporated into a Program) are owned by Blizzard Entertainment or its licensors. Each Program is protected by the trademark and copyright laws of the United States, international copyright treaties and conventions, and other laws. Blizzard reserves all rights in each Program, except those rights granted by Blizzard in writing. Each Program contains certain licensed materials, and Blizzard's licensors may protect their rights or rely on Blizzard to protect those rights in the event of any violation of the end user license agreement and copyright law.

As part of our effort to protect all proprietary rights related to Diablo, Diablo II, StarCraft, Warcraft, Warcraft II: Battle.net Edition, Warcraft III and World of Warcraft, we would like you to promptly remove all materials infringing on and/or all materials which allow others to infringe on the copyrights and/or trademarks of Blizzard Entertainment's products from the aforementioned site which you host or disable access to such site. This includes any unauthorized software, artwork, images, sounds or derivative works thereof that may be on the aforementioned site. This includes the StarCraft mod currently being worked on. Additionally, we would appreciate it if you would communicate this request to those individuals involved in the creation and maintenance of your web site.

Please be advised that at this time you have forty eight ( 48 ) hours in which to comply with our request otherwise we will be forced to pursue further action by notifying your ISP. We would like to thank you in advance for choosing to work with us in a unified effort to promote the integrity of our games and the well being of our online gaming community.

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:(

[Incompetent]

For some reason, Blizzard hates StarCraft, even though it's their best RTS series (I dare anyone to say WarCraft III: TFT is better than StarCraft: Brood War). I mean, Diablo has what, two expansions and a sequel? WarCraft has 2 sequels and two expansions, and StarCraft has one expansion and that's it.
Starcraft is there most recent franchise though, and don't forget Ghost.

[SDM]

HAHA WE FOOL STUPIDFAT AMERICANS KEKEKE^_^

No sc2 for you!

[StrangeFellow]

blizzard you facist bastards!!!

[MrShooter]

blizzard you facist bastards!!!

The second anyone makes a starcraft mod for something, blizzard is crawling all over it! :mad:

I wonder if they got the guy that made a starcraft TFC map?

[SDM]

http://img5.exs.cx/img5/9637/kekeke1.jpg

[Corrosion]

http://img5.exs.cx/img5/9637/kekeke1.jpg
:scared:

[MrShooter]

http://img5.exs.cx/img5/9637/kekeke1.jpg

:doh:

[ChewyLSB]

Starcraft is there most recent franchise though, and don't forget Ghost.

Ghost is being created by Nihilistic, and if you want to count spin-off games, WarCraft has THREE sequels and three expansions. (I forgot about Tides of War earlier)

And besides. WarCraft II Battle.net edition came out after StarCraft: Brood War, but yet WarCraft III has already gotten an expansion and a sequel since then, while StarCraft has gotten nothing.

[Jekz]

StarCraft 2 is shrouded in mystery.

EA is systematically destroying the C&C series.

The apocalypse can't be far around the corner.

[ChewyLSB]

Hmm, it's been awhile since I've played generals, but what was wrong with it? I used to play online all the time (my record was something along the lines of 200/100, I don't remember), but I didn't see much wrong with the game. I didn't play a lot of Zero Hour, but the only major problem I saw with the game were balance issues and how insanely powerful Chinese Gattling Tanks were, but I haven't played with the new patches, so I don't know.

[Mr1337Duck]

Yeah, not SC2. In the second pic you can see a rank indicator on one unit, and the missle icons, which are without any doubt from C&C:Gens

[Wraithlord]

looks like a shitty mod for WC3, which it will will probably end up being

[HunterKiller]

i need blizzard to make SC2

[ChewyLSB]

looks like a shitty mod for WC3, which it will will probably end up being

Someone read only the first post and replied...

[Sputty]

wtf, Blizzard disallowed production of the mod? Stupid, they're not even publically working on a starcraft sequel, and WC3 sucks

[Jekz]

Hmm, it's been awhile since I've played generals, but what was wrong with it? I used to play online all the time (my record was something along the lines of 200/100, I don't remember), but I didn't see much wrong with the game. I didn't play a lot of Zero Hour, but the only major problem I saw with the game were balance issues and how insanely powerful Chinese Gattling Tanks were, but I haven't played with the new patches, so I don't know. But, are you a fan of the series?
Because, as I've seen many times over, fans want the unrealism and alternate realities of the Tiberian series and Red Alert series, respectively.
Modern war blows. I don't want to fight terrorists.

[ChewyLSB]

Oh, I was a fan of the series, but I really didn't consider Generals a part of the C&C series. I understand what you mean now...

[Angel_of_Death]

Uh, why does everyone hate WC3...

I think it's awesome, for a strategy game that is.

[ChewyLSB]

Uh, why does everyone hate WC3...

I think it's awesome, for a strategy game that is.

Because it's inferior to StarCraft: Brood War in almost every way?

[Corrosion]

Because it's inferior to StarCraft: Brood War in almost every way?
QFT

[AztecWarrior]

Because it's inferior to StarCraft: Brood War in almost every way?
QFT

[Destroyeron]

...Do I dare say that I like Warcraft 3 better then Starcraft?

[ChewyLSB]

...do I have to bust out my page long argument as to why WarCraft III: TFT is inferior to StarCraft: Brood War?

I'll do it, I SWEAR! Don't provoke me! Thread de-railment will commence if you provoke me!

[firecrackerNC]

I like WC more then SC. Bite me.

[Sputty]

/me provokes Chewy
I want teh list

[StrangeFellow]

does anyone here who plays Starcraft: Brood War play on USWest.Battle.Net by anychance?

i agree, SC>WC3

[ChewyLSB]

Alright... here goes...

StarCraft came out on February 28, 1998. It was a fantastic RTS, but it wasn't very balanced. Subsequent patches came out, but the game was still unbalanced. Most noticable was the underpowered Terran side, but that was soon all fixed. StarCraft: Brood War, the expansion pack to Starcraft came out just under nine months after the first game's release on November 11th, 1998. Brood War added a few extremely important units, most noticably the Terran Medic, which spurred many more strategies. After this release and a few more patches, the game of StarCraft was finally balanced.

Many consider StarCraft the most balanced RTS ever, and rightfully so. Even today, 6 years after StarCraft: Brood War's release, not one game has come close to the perfect formula that StarCraft has developed of diversity and balance.

However, Blizzard wanted a limelight for another one of it's series, the WarCraft series. WarCraft II far paled in comparison to StarCraft, so Blizzard decided to release another sequel to WarCraft III. The much anticipated WarCraft III was finally released July 3, 2002. Fans were overjoyed, but soon realized many balancing problems.

However, there was hope, as even StarCraft was more unbalanced at the time of it's release. The most noticable problem with WarCraft III was the insanely powerful spellcasters. Blizzard had hoped to recitify this problem with the release of WarCraft III: The Frozen Throne almost a year later, on July 1st, 2003. The problem was fixed.

However, the reasoning behind StarCraft's dominance over even the most advanced version of WarCraft goes much deeper than just simple balance. Certain gameplay mechanics that made StarCraft shine were removed in WarCraft III, and WarCraft III has certain inherent problems with the way it is set up. There are two major problems with WarCraft III. The lack of micromanagement and the upkeep system.

The first and most major flaw with WarCraft III is it's lack of micromanagement. WarCraft III is supposed to increase the use of micromanagement, which is apparent by the lowered population limit, but it utterly fails in that aspect. One major flaw was made. WarCraft III's units had far too much health. In StarCraft: Brood War, the unit with the most health, the Battlecruiser, had 500 health. However, units in WarCraft III had far too much health and did far too little damage.

This may not seem like a big deal, but in high end playing, it is. Because the units have so much health, split second decisions and micromanaging quickly become less and less important. One of the greatest things about StarCraft is all the split second decisions you have to make. Do I sacrifice those marines to let that siege tank siege, or do I move everyone back and use the siege tanks ability to move while attacking. These little things that require micromanagement have been all but eliminated in WarCraft III.

The other major reason, although it is less important, is the upkeep system. The upkeep system made little sense. The upkeep system basically discouraged expanding, so that if you were to expand, you would receive upkeep and the bonus from the expansion is significantly reduced.

So... yeah. Those are the reasons I feel WarCraft III: The Frozen Throne is inferior to StarCraft: Brood War. There are others, but those are the main reasons why I don't like WarCraft III.

[firecrackerNC]

I still like Warcraft 3 TFT better. Plus with SC expansion they added like what 3 units per race? Well in WCIII TFT they added 7 Neutral heros, 1 new heor per race, like 4-5 new units per race. New spells, maps, Items and creeps. Therefore TFT is better then BroodWar.

[Electrofreak]

I've been waiting on StarCraft: Ghost, but it keeps getting pushed back :(

edit- oh yeah and StarCraft > Warcraft *

[Wraithlord]

hmm, I did, I was replying to the first post, not participating in the discussion

[Spider]

Thing is with blizzard they usually realease very good products but with adjustements to be made (patches etc.).

They don't really get a second chance on console... so the game needs to be bug-free and since it's their first time doing an entire console game instead of a PC port (diablo) they really need to suceed if they intend going into the market.

I'd rather wait another year then have an half-assed piece of shit in my console.

[Dharkbayne]

You can patch console games now. Atleast Xbox games, because they have a built in HD. They did it in SC: PT

[Spider]

You can patch console games now. Atleast Xbox games, because they have a built in HD.

Yeah but their releasing the game for the GC, PS2 and, XB. So they could fix two out of three... I've come to see Blizzard has perfectionists and while two out of three is good it's not good enough.

[ViperGTS]

Socom 2 was patched a couple of months ago....
To bad for teh gamecube....

[ChewyLSB]

Well don't forget, Ghost isn't really being made by Blizzard, it's being made by Nihilistic. Like someone said, Blizzard tends to release things full of bugs and then uses patches to recitify them. Best example is Diablo II.

I've always been opposed to the idea of patches. It allows developers to release games full of bugs and then fix them later.

[Electrofreak]

Actually, Nihilistic's contract with Blizzard has been ended (nobody really knows why) and Blizzard has hired Swingin' Ape productions (aka producers of "Metal Arms: Glitch in the System") to finish it. The release date was originally last June, but it has since been pushed back to Nov. 4, and then once again to a "2005 release" where it stands currently. Kinda pisses me off. I really want to meet a Hydralisk face-to-face.

[Hydralisk]

Kinda pisses me off. I really want to meet Hydralisk face-to-face.
PSA:MB sound ok?

[NoSurrender]

Actually, I really want to touch Hydralisk .
AH HA this is what he meant !

[Dharkbayne]

Actually, Nihilistic's contract with Blizzard has been ended (nobody really knows why) and Blizzard has hired Swingin' Ape productions (aka producers of "Metal Arms: Glitch in the System") to finish it. The release date was originally last June, but it has since been pushed back to Nov. 4, and then once again to a "2005 release" where it stands currently. Kinda pisses me off. I really want to meet a Hydralisk face-to-face.

THat's good, Metal Arms is an awesome game. I'm sure they won't dissappoint.