[AIM] Infernus gets owned by the Catholic Church

[JetRaiden]

Me= stevo891
Infernus= Pheonix Infernus

Phoenix Infernus: :-(
stevo891: oh noes
stevo891: what?
Phoenix Infernus: i got in trouble at school today
Phoenix Infernus: and for a stupid reason
Phoenix Infernus: the Cardinal came to say mass today
Phoenix Infernus: and I got picked as an alter server
stevo891: go on...
Phoenix Infernus: the man means nothing to me
Phoenix Infernus: but when we greet him we are told we have to kiss his rings
Phoenix Infernus: i'm like
Phoenix Infernus: wtf
stevo891: haha
stevo891: go on
Phoenix Infernus: A) I thought that stopped in the middle ages, B) He is of absolutely no importance to me...
Phoenix Infernus: so i refuse to
Phoenix Infernus: and I got 5 demerits and 5 detetions...
stevo891: BUHAHAHA
Phoenix Infernus: I was like... "WTF!"
stevo891: I am SO posting this on PSU


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

apparently he missed the Sunday school class where they tell you to kiss the ground Catholic higharchy walk on.

[Infernus]

"OK, guys listen; when you greet the Cardinal you walk up, say 'Welcome your emanence', bow, and kiss the red jeweled ring on his right middle finger."

Thats what the diciplinarian told us. I barely wanted to serve, much less be looked down upon by the entire pontif guard. Heh, I said "WTF?!" and got yelled at, as well as the detentions and demerits.

[Everay]

i bet it was one of those candy rings too.

[Dharkbayne]

That's fucking retarded. Why would you have to kiss some old guy's ring?

Catholicism sucks, imo.

[Red October]

The same goes for the Orthodox Church. Only, in the late 1800's, they didn't give you detention. They gave you imprisonment, torture and death.

[Breed]

Sometimes....just sometimes...i wish we lived in a despotism.
Then no1 would have to kiss jewelery :)

[Indecisive]

Catholicism sucks, imo.


definitely

[EarlyDawn]

Catholicism sucks, imo.QFT.

Religowned

[OfaLoaf]

Inf, you go to a Catholic church? or was this a public school?

[Infernus]

Catholic School... its a lot better then the alternatives around here... but still very bad. If all goes well I won't be there much longer.


And yes... catholicism sucks the big one... thats why I tend to ignore it...

[Bighoss]

instead of saying he means nothing to you, you should have grabbed his hand and started making out with the ring, tongue and all. Then scream I LOVE YOU JESUS!!! as they pull you out of the room.

[Incompetent]

Catholicism sucks, imo.
Any organized religion sucks, once you add bureaucracy to your beliefs its less about the beliefs and more about the control.

[Infernus]

Any organized religion sucks, once you add bureaucracy to your beliefs its less about the beliefs and more about the control.

In the case of the roman catholic church... its more about the money...

[Kikinchikin]

if aztec gets wind of this he's going to rape you infernus

[Mag]

It's not rape if it's consentual. ;)
<3

[Rbstr]

The chatholic church a couple high points, first off it have an enormus(sp) amount of history stored in its library, though few people ever get to read it. and it has saved/created(rather commisioned for the making) inumerable works of art.

otheriwse it's not my religion and it's no cult that makes others people worse off.
The is on thing can't stand though, its the fact that they don't like birthcontrol(no pill, no condom, no nothing, no morning after pill), and that is the root of many poblems in the world, to many people having to many kids, especialy in latin america were they are predominatly chatholic, and while they have drug cartels and smuggling rings and all that others stuff they are somtimes very devote chatholics and chose to be that way religious in that one tenant of many.

EDIT: i was gona add this but got pulled away, i'm a preaty active person in my religion and have nothing against people that practice chatholisism though i may feel that a part of it is wrong and i'm sorry to those that take offence to this. I being a progressive.liberal person, feel that the church has outdated views on things,

also my in this case you go to a chatholic school so you can't realy complain that much about religious things that you may be forced to do there becsaue you get teh privalege to pay and go there to get a good education, and it sucks that you have a crappy public school system.

[EineBeBoP]

Religion sucks, imo.


Fixed. Although there wasnt much wrong with it in the first place.

[Triggar]

Religion doesn't suck. There have been instances that tarnished the name and reputation of organized religion, but on the whole I oppose nothing that asks people to treat themselves better, to treat others better, and to respect humankind. I have no oppositions to a moral code of conduct that results in better people who hold onto a belief system, who appreciate consequences for their actions.

[ViperGTS]

Wow thats fucked up.

[AztecWarrior]

If you can read this, I'm rather pissed and composing a rant.

[Ivan]

If you can read this, I'm rather pissed and composing a rant.Rant: Ok
Flame: Not Ok.

That is directed to everyone. Let's keep it clean.

[Red October]

Incoming Rant Unit's!!!!

[EineBeBoP]

Please note: Thats just my opinion. if religion has helped you through life, im very happy for you, but it hasnt me. this is my own problem, and i neither want not have asked for your solutions. Thanks for caring, but this is not the time.

I plan to stay away from this thread from now on, so any replies are pretty much wasted.

[Derfud]

I would have tried to bite his finger off.

[AztecWarrior]

I. The issue at heart: The One Ring.

I've never heard of this ring-kissing activity. I interpret "the man means nothing to you" as you're a non-Catholic, or show contempt for the Church'es hiearchy. This is understandable. The instutution has done several wrong things in the past. At no point in time has it ever claimed to have been perfect. In other words, what's made by humans can, and will, fail. One only needs to turn to the history of indulgences.

Waaay back, in the Middle Ages, some priests claimed that by donating to the Church you were guaranteed afterlife in Heaven, or that you could save someone else from purgatory. This was one of the main causes for Martin Luther breaking off from Roman Christianity (as opposed to Orthodox Christianity).

Since then, the Church has reformed. Councils upon councils have modernized the Church. However, some of you still believe that the Church is this evil institution that burns condoms so that South Africans can die of AIDS and has priests that abuse boys, all while they enrichen themselves. If you want to stay in the past, so be it, but that's for later in this post.

First of all, if you didn't want to, you could have just refused before being selected. (I assume.) Just state that you don't believe that the Cardinal is a very good person, I don't want to do that, etc. I don't think they can force you to, and they shouldn't. However, you screamed out "WTF." Smart.

Secondly, the actual idea of the ring-kissing. I can imagine this is to show respect. From a secular point of view, you have a man that has comitted himself to a very strict and moral lifestyle for the rest of his life. He deserves some respect. From a religious point of view, the veneration is obviously justified. However, it's outdated. Respect is outdated, isn't it? Screw order, right?

So what if they did it during the Middle Ages? They're not asking you to make out with him, they're asking you to simply kiss a ring. Just to show respect. That's it. Nobody would hold it against you for doing so.

Disclaimer: This is based on my interpretation of what you've said. If you didn't actually scream out "WHAT THE FUCK?", or didn't actually act like a dickhead, but rather politely declined, then it's pretty unjustified.

Part II in composition...

[321]

wow catholic school is for the lose.

[AztecWarrior]

II: "Let's bash the idol-worshipping Indian-killing condom-burners"

This is for the rest of you.

First of all, I really do appreciate the flak. After all, helping oddfish, Infernus, and anyone who needs help or is having a really, really bad time really rubbed off on you guys. Screw that, I'm a nun sent forward in time to harass you with these things called "morals" in which you have to not do that crap that you like.

I could care less if you like the institution. Maybe you're turned off by the excessive pompousness. I am, to tell you the truth. I also value the good they do. But I don't care about that. Specifically, Incompetent's viewpoint is a valid argument and not flak.

Most of you watched Monty Python's The Life of Brian once or twice, seen a bunch of movies in which the Church is a bunch of backwards, always-pissed old people who are portrayed as evil, and you possibly read The Da Vinci Code. You saw that Infernus got canned, and that cemented those years of research: The Church = bad. Religion's only for priests, nuns, and cancer survivors, right?

The movies? Brainwashing ME into thinking that the Church is evil? No way!

With the notable exceptions of The Passion of the Christ and the Untouchables, religion is either minimized or viewed as wrong in the media. Combined with the bandwagon appeal and contempt for authority, it leads you to your conclusion.

We're willing to die to help others, but forget that, we're only good for buying Renaissance art and harassing the youth by telling them that sex spreads AIDS, so don't have sex. And we've got pretty good schools.

Right?

[JetRaiden]

aztec....your amish is showing... oops:

[AztecWarrior]

Please note: Thats just my opinion. if religion has helped you through life, im very happy for you, but it hasnt me. this is my own problem, and i neither want not have asked for your solutions. Thanks for caring, but this is not the time.

I plan to stay away from this thread from now on, so any replies are pretty much wasted.
Religion's not something that serves you.

[Incompetent]

In the case of the roman catholic church... its more about the money...
If you control someone you control there wallet.

Edit:
Religion's not something that serves you.
Of course it isn't. You serve it, which means you serve the people in power. Which means they essentially, control your soul, at least in your mind. This is where the problem with organized religion arises, people with that much power can only be trusted to be corrupt. Personal religion can help people, moral compass and provide peace of mind and all that. When it becomes an institution (especially if it doesn't like other religions cooexisting), it becomes a problem.

[Rbstr]

We're willing to die to help others, but forget that, we're only good for buying Renaissance art and harassing the youth by telling them that sex spreads AIDS, so don't have sex. And we've got pretty good schools.
Right?

i think you missinterpereted me aztec and i'm very sorry, i just feel the methods used by the church are growing old realated to birth control, and this isn't just for young unmarried people, but for maried couples too. Latin america's population is spiraling out of contol and it could be solved inpart by the church telling people that cranking out babies non-stop is a bad thing to do unless you can support them. There is nothing wronge with your religion or stances i just don't belive they are totaly correct. Church is good for peopl on the whole it does give peopl morals and its been proven that having something taht is on tehre side to belive in helps people get though very hard times.

[Triggar]

I think people here are going off a stereotypical view of religion, which has served you fine and well and prevented you from realising that religion isn't mind-control, wallet-control or soul-control.

First and foremost, you absolutely need to realise that religions are a voluntary institution. Christianity would be nothing without Christians, and Judiasm would be nothing if not for ****. Christianity and Judiasm have been around for centuries, the lessons and codes of conduct have been passed down from parent to child for thousands of years. If they were these corrupt institutions that you've claimed them to be, then they would not have survived for this long. Look at the Roman Empire.

A religious institution isn't the problem you're making it out to be, either. That's where that whole pre-existing notion thing comes in to play. If I heard a bunch of people talking about how horrible and scary Jewish people are and how they're the cause of nationwide poverty, and if movies and books reinforced this idea, I'd probably be a Neo-Nazi. Instead, if I hear someone make a claim like that, I'm the sort who'd like to get the facts straight before making a decision or an educated assumption. I would go out and meet Jewish people, I would read about their history, and I would deduce that no, nationwide poverty was caused by war.

I suggest those of you who turn your noses up at organized religion have a good conversation with someone who belongs to a religious sect. You would be incredibly surprised to find that neither Aztec nor myself, for example, walk around wearing a habit and a rosary around our necks, and yet we live our lives based on the teachings of Jesus Christ. At no point in my life did anyone tell me, "Angela, you must be a Christian", except my grandma who said she would't go to my wedding if it wasn't in a Catholic church. I was raised a Christian by my mother, and thought nothing of it until a few years ago when I decided to examine my choice of religion, in an effort to think for my self. I researched Christianity and studied the Bible and decided for myself that Christianity was a fine institution and I would be a lifelong member of it. While it's true that I do not practice my religion as thoroughly as I should do, I still uphold the fundamentals of Christianity and do my best to act "Christ-like" at all times. No, Dharkbayne, that does not mean I walk around with a crown of thorns on my head; rather, I treat people the way I would like to be treated, I try to not make judgements on people, I help out for the sake of helping out, I welcome people into my home, I share my food, I try and make people feel loved.

Now tell me what is so wrong and horrible and corrupt about that.

[Sputty]

BTw, anyone who tried to say that religion teaches morals has to define what those morals are
And since philosophers have been struggling with that since philosophy was created I doubt you'll get it done

[Bighoss]

II: "Let's bash the idol-worshipping Indian-killing condom-burners"

This is for the rest of you.

First of all, I really do appreciate the flak. After all, helping oddfish, Infernus, and anyone who needs help or is having a really, really bad time really rubbed off on you guys. Screw that, I'm a nun sent forward in time to harass you with these things called "morals" in which you have to not do that crap that you like.

I could care less if you like the institution. Maybe you're turned off by the excessive pompousness. I am, to tell you the truth. I also value the good they do. But I don't care about that. Specifically, Incompetent's viewpoint is a valid argument and not flak.

Most of you watched Monty Python's The Life of Brian once or twice, seen a bunch of movies in which the Church is a bunch of backwards, always-pissed old people who are portrayed as evil, and you possibly read The Da Vinci Code. You saw that Infernus got canned, and that cemented those years of research: The Church = bad. Religion's only for priests, nuns, and cancer survivors, right?

The movies? Brainwashing ME into thinking that the Church is evil? No way!

With the notable exceptions of The Passion of the Christ and the Untouchables, religion is either minimized or viewed as wrong in the media. Combined with the bandwagon appeal and contempt for authority, it leads you to your conclusion.

We're willing to die to help others, but forget that, we're only good for buying Renaissance art and harassing the youth by telling them that sex spreads AIDS, so don't have sex. And we've got pretty good schools.

Right?

AZTEC GOES JESUS STOMP MODE!!!
http://www.angelfire.com/bc/MRSELFDESTRUCT/jesus.html

[OfaLoaf]

BTw, anyone who tried to say that religion teaches morals has to define what those morals are
And since philosophers have been struggling with that since philosophy was created I doubt you'll get it done
Thou shalt not kill? Thou shalt not steal? Thou shalt not bear false witness?

[Sputty]

Those aren't morals

[OfaLoaf]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=morals

[Incompetent]

In response to Triggar

Current incarnation of Cristianity =/ The only example of organized religion. I don't really care that much about Cristianity (or religion in general) in the US and EU, and I don't really have anything against the people who believe it, I dislike the concept of what it has historicly been. Signing over your soul, or more likely, having your soul signed over for you before you can walk. The problem is you are thinking all religions exist and have existed in a similar manner to the way it exists for you, right now, they don't. People do not always have a choice, the situation most of us are in concerning religion, as educated Americans (or Euros) living in a free society, is pretty much unprecedented in history. It probably will stay that way for the better part of the forseable future too, once people are educated it ceases to have the effect it has had historically, but people are not always educated.

The current state of religion in the United States and much of Europe is not what I have a problem with. The problem is when people are uneducated and presented with no choice; and this is what typically happens. If people are allowed to actually think about there religion and arrive at what makes the most sense to them and what seems the most moral, organized religion is not a problem. Unfortantly, something like religion does not typically encourage that, it encourages control and unthinking devotion (because thats whats best for the people in charge). That is in my opinion, where the problem arises. I'm sure by now you can already guess the rather cliche examples I would give, so I'll spare you that. However, I will say that religion has an alarming tendancy to evolve into a state run institution, and that is where things go down hill.

It's a pretty backwards and radical view, more then a little bit contradictory and that explanation is filled with flaws (for multiple reasons, partly because i have trouble expressing myself well and also because it invariably is wrong to an exent), but i think it's closer to the truth then believing religion is a shining beacon of light that helps everyone it touches. It CAN help people, but just because it has the ability doesn't mean it will, and it ussually doesn't.

I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RELIGIOUS PEOPLE HERE AND WHAT IT HAS DONE TO (most) OF THEM. It's been a by and large positive influence and i recognize that. It's what religion does to those poor bastard in places like Africa or the Middle East that I have a problem with, and the historical damage it has done as far the furthering of the human race.

For reference, I am not religous (obviously.) I believe that there may be a decent chance of a god or gods (or something like that) existing but I seriously doubt that any human would know if it didn't want us too, and I doubt any of us could possibly disbelieve if it really gave a damn about us knowing. One guy two thousand years ago doesn't really count as effort if your omnipotent. Now excuse me while i don a flame retardent suit because i know im going to burn over this post.

Edit: Unfortantly, I get on a plane bound for the CDL Rally in a bit over an hour and will be gone for a while, and as such, won't have the chance to respond to any of the undoubtedly scathing rebukes to come. If someone wants to continue this, send me a PM, but unfortantly I most likely won't be able to reply for 4/5 days.

[DaShiznit]

Ok. I have no problem with religion as it is presented. I have a problem with the church. It took them HUNDREDS OF FUCKING YEARS to admit that the earth, was indeed, not the center of t3h universe. I attend a Catholic school, and I am forced to attend mass once a month. I am DISGUSTED by the hipocrisy of the church, their blatant Idol-worshipping while the condemn the "Pagans" who do the same thing. I'm not condeming Catholics (almost all of my best friends are Catholic), instead, I condemn the archaic (sp?) institution that is the Catholic Church.

[Sputty]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=morals
How do you judge what's moral and what's not? The dictionary has a vague definition of the word. If killing is always immoral that means Soldiers, policemen, and other people who have to kill are immoral, no matter the condition. You can't just arbitrarily say something and expect it to be true.

[ObnoxiousFrog]

[21:20:54] [Infernus]: FCUK
[21:20:55] [Doop]: meh
[21:21:02] [CDL-ObnoxiousFrog]: eff ess cee kay
[21:21:05] [Doop]: when earthbound got bought up i went into transformer
[21:21:16] [Infernus]: My mom: "YOU SAID WHAT TO THE CARDINAL!?

[EarlyDawn]

Incomptent gets the hero medal of the day. That is all.

[Edit: Spee gets a chunk of that too. Good post below.]

[Spee]

Triggar. I tried to tell my church that Agreed with their code of conduct.


Its when they started telling it me it was MORE than a code of conduct, MORE than a simple moral compass that started irking me.

Im all for helping humanity, and Im all for Jesus and his teachings. however, as one person stated "Jesus doesnt offend me. His fanclub is the thing that gets me."

[oddfish]

i think that intelligent people in an intelligent society needn't develop nor make use of any form of organized religion.

meanwhile, the retards and social neanderthals should have their own little organized religions to give them a moral compass so that they don't go around killing, raping, and stealing everything.

of course, you'll get the occasional sociopath or psycho amongst the intelligencia, but that's gonna happen no matter what.

now, by intelligent people i mean anyone who can sit down and say: well, i shouldn't kill that guy because it's WRONG, not just because jesus says not to. or, i shouldn't steal that because it's WRONG, not just because the bible says it's bad.

in other words, if you NEED religion to tell you what's right and wrong, then you better go to temple, or church, or whatever. on the other hand, if you're smart enough to know the difference between right and wrong, then you shouldn't have to worry about it too much.

organized religion is DESIGNED for people who have no moral compass. i'm not saying that all the people who are members of some organized religion are moral retards, but i am saying it wasn't really designed for them. to those people it's more like something to help them explain the world around them better. who knows, they may be right, but, to be honest, i don't think you need organized religion for that. but, whatever. go to church every sunday because, lemme tellya, going to church every sunday and not eating meat on friday and all that shit is about as significant as a fish taking a shit in the ocean. meh.

[DaShiznit]

/me agrees with Spee.

[Triggar]

Spee, that isn't religion's fault. That's your church's fault.

[EarlyDawn]

Spee, that isn't religion's fault. That's your church's fault.I think that's exactly what he's saying.

[AztecWarrior]

But I have faith. I believe that all that stuff happened, and it's not just a fairy tale to show people the right way to act.

[AztecWarrior]

I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RELIGIOUS PEOPLE HERE AND WHAT IT HAS DONE TO (most) OF THEM. It's been a by and large positive influence and i recognize that. It's what religion does to those poor bastard in places like Africa or the Middle East that I have a problem with, and the historical damage it has done as far the furthering of the human race.
Then you have a problem with imperialism and not religion. "Convert or die" was the Spanish method of teaching the Aztecs Christianity. Blame them and not the Church itself.

Ok. I have no problem with religion as it is presented. I have a problem with the church. It took them HUNDREDS OF FUCKING YEARS to admit that the earth, was indeed, not the center of t3h universe. I attend a Catholic school, and I am forced to attend mass once a month. I am DISGUSTED by the hipocrisy of the church, their blatant Idol-worshipping while the condemn the "Pagans" who do the same thing. I'm not condeming Catholics (almost all of my best friends are Catholic), instead, I condemn the archaic (sp?) institution that is the Catholic Church.
A: Nobody said it was perfect. A few uptight judges do not constitute the Church.

B: What hypocrisy and what idol-worshipping?

C: Archaic? How?

[Incompetent]

Then you have a problem with imperialism and not religion. "Convert or die" was the Spanish method of teaching the Aztecs Christianity. Blame them and not the Church itself.
Imperialism and religion naturally go hand in hand. Spread your rule with force, justify/consolidate it with religion.

[EarlyDawn]

Indeed. That's reflected in the very opinion of the Church that they are right and everyone else is wrong. No room for interperetation, they're right and anyone who disagrees is wrong.

If people would just agree that they have different outlooks and that we can't really know who's right, the world would be a much more peaceful place.

[oddfish]

Indeed. That's reflected in the very opinion of the Church that they are right and everyone else is wrong. No room for interperetation, they're right and anyone who disagrees is wrong.

If people would just agree that they have different outlooks and that we can't really know who's right, the world would be a much more peaceful place.


there's too many people out there with I.Q.'s that don't afford them the understanding of some of us on PSU, EarlyDawn.

[EarlyDawn]

:D

[Triggar]

Well that's why I don't really go to church. I recognize the flaws in the system. That doesn't put me off Christianity though; I realise that the problems with the church have nothing to do with the Christian faith.

[Rbstr]

Well that's why I don't really go to church. I recognize the flaws in the system. That doesn't put me off Christianity though; I realise that the problems with the church have nothing to do with the Christian faith.

QFT

[ObnoxiousFrog]

Well, me being libertarian and hating the world and everything I think people whould be able to do whatever they want to worship whatever they want (short of murder). Go ahead, be JesusxCore or AbrahamxCore or AllahxCore or HaleboppxCore or whatever. Not my business (other than Aztec, who will still get poked at).

[Spider]

Ok I didnt read all of your damn essays... mainly because I don't have all night. But here's what I have to say.

Aztec you say "convert or die" was from the spanish...? Didnt christianity do a little something called the crusades? Some dumbass high in the church's hierarchy said: "Were gonna convert people and kill the rest because god told me!!!" didnt he?

I have nothing against religion, everyone has their pillars that they need to rely on at some point or another, it makes them stronger... or weaker. It all depends on how much they rely on it.

The only thing I can't stand is the "Holier then thou" attitude and the child mollesting. Tell me? What did the church do to those priests that were accused of touching children? Oh yeah they put them in reclusion in the vatican (sp?) or something of the sort... No trial, no jail. It's total bullshit.

I'm not that religious but as far as religion goes I do beleive that if your gonna go to one... it might as well be the oldest and most loving religion of em all... buddhism.


Note: Don't mind me I'm tired and crazy.

[AztecWarrior]

Indeed. That's reflected in the very opinion of the Church that they are right and everyone else is wrong. No room for interperetation, they're right and anyone who disagrees is wrong.
How can you have a religion where nobody believes in the same thing? That's like having a political party with no platform at all.

[oddfish]

How can you have a religion where nobody believes in the same thing? That's like having a political party with no platform at all.


i say we all just fight over whose god is better.

[Jekz]

Ran > God.





And... atheism wins.

But polytheism is more fun.

[Indecisive]

/me punts the thread to the debate forum

[JetRaiden]

:( I hate when all my threads become debates.

the only one I have that didnt evolve into an arguement was the polar bear one. :tear:

[Jekz]

Penguins are cuter than polar bears.

What with their little tuxes and all.

[Indecisive]

Haha. the polar bear one owned.

[Heavygain]

I am catholic, and i somewhat take offense to all of this, and i entirely agree with aztec on this one.

[Jekz]

/me hugs Incompetent.

If one can see the flaws of organized religion, why don't they just believe in a god on their own?

[Triggar]

Hi, that's what I said.

[Jekz]

Psh, you believe in Christianity.

[oddfish]

I am catholic, and i somewhat take offense to all of this, and i entirely agree with aztec on this one.


... okay.

anyways. believe what you want. that's fine. and if you want, push your beliefs on others, but don't call "foul" when they punch you in the face.

[Triggar]

My method is to not push anything on anyone. If people ask me why I'm happy and content and why I'm nice to other people, I'll tell them. I'd rather practice Christianity than be one of those people who goes to church each Sunday, then cheats on their husband.

[Jekz]

Then I respect you.

[Indecisive]

I believe christianity and I believe that by said christan standards I am going to heaven.


However, I also believe that church is a waste of my damn time.


Of course, it probubly has something to do with being forced to go to this day.

SInce I was a baby I attened church, wheather I liked it or not.

So, when they told me stories about lakes of fire, you best believe I got scared shitless and accepted christ.



Meh, I dunno, it might just come down to what you were raised on.

[Jekz]

Meh, I dunno, it might just come down to what you were raised on.
And then if you challenged it when you gained the necessary intelligence to do so.

[oddfish]

My method is to not push anything on anyone. If people ask me why I'm happy and content and why I'm nice to other people, I'll tell them. I'd rather practice Christianity than be one of those people who goes to church each Sunday, then cheats on their husband.


/signed

but you don't have to have an organized religion to just be a good person.

[Triggar]

No, but I have my reasons to have faith in the teachings of Jesus Christ.

[Jekz]

Why don't people follow me and call themselves Mehronzonians and correct peoples' English whilst getting pelted by stones?

Grand idea, Jekz, grand.

New religion: Mehronzoa

[Spee]

Why don't people follow me and call themselves Mehronzonians and correct peoples' English whilst getting pelted by stones?

Grand idea, Jekz, grand.

New religion: Mehronzoa



Why dont you stop trying to sound like an all-knowing pretentious little douchebag and start acting like another member of the human race?


Hypocrites with a "hohoho, Stupid humans" outlook on everyone else are beyond elitist. Theyre just assholes. you sir, are an asshole.

Every post I see from you is either a "lol something bad happened, lets mock the parties involved" or a "Hohoho, Im better than everyone!"


Cut it out.

[Jekz]

Sarcasm escapeth thou?

[Spee]

Sarcasm escapeth thou?

I caught the sarcasm. I also catch a condescending tone every time you post.


You come off as a 13 year old who tries too hard to be different. Your views of religion, your posting of various languages, your mocking of the 9/11 victims. Very immature.

[Jekz]

:/

I mocked not the 9/11 victims, it was a poorly placed comment on religion.

In a sense, I do sound as you describe, but it is your mind that is filling in the blanks, not I.

I'd rather we speak kindly, but ignoring sarcasm doesn't make for a fun argument.

[oddfish]

I caught the sarcasm. I also catch a condescending tone every time you post.


You come off as a 13 year old who tries too hard to be different. Your views of religion, your posting of various languages, your mocking of the 9/11 victims. Very immature.


well, i'm a last word freak, so: /signed.

EDIT: yeah, and by the way, Jekz.. your pretension doesn't impress anyone in this community. neither does your knowledge of the German language. 'kay? No one is saying "FOLLOW THE CROUD, BE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE," i mean, shit, if we were like that then there'd be no SDM's, no Infernus', no Dharkbaynes, no Hezzy's..

all i'm trying to say, and i think Spee's trying the same, is to quit wearing some kind of elitist facade just because we can't look you in the eyes over miles of internet space.

or, keep acting like a tool and me, squeeky, SDM, and Infernus will intorduce you to dry anal insertion while Dharky videotapes :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

(let's see if mr. smarty smart pants picks up on my attempt at making a humerous comment and perhaps inviting him into the community with a smile!)

[Jekz]

Ugh, the German comment was in reply to your "nazi" comment... mein Freund. :lol:

Anyway, I have nothing against you. I really am confused by all your "cool" and "in-crowd" talk.

But, ich liebe dich, Oddfish!

[oddfish]

Ugh, the German comment was in reply to your "nazi" comment... mein Freund. :lol:

Anyway, I have nothing against you. I really am confused by all your "cool" and "in-crowd" talk.

But, ich liebe dich, Oddfish!


*sigh*

[Jekz]

I know not whether the positivity nor negativity of previous post... negative I'm betting though.

You wish to reconcile but only on strict terms, no?

[Jekz]

In that case, and only for you.

The Emperess bows.

You are my equal.

"Ich liebe dich" is "I love you", by the way.

[oddfish]

In that case, and only for you.

The Emperess bows.

You are my equal.

"Ich liebe dich" is "I love you", by the way.


wait, you're of the feminine variety?

that explains it!

:D :D :D

well, now.. the tides have changed, sweetheart :brow:

EDIT: sorry, but.. i'm rereading our little exchange with the knowledge that you're a female..

hmm.. intriguing.

well, i'm the local sexual male predator.. pleased to meet you :D

[Spee]

/UnexpectedSpeeFlameOfTheDay

[Triggar]

Shut up all of you before I take my belt off and beat all of you

[oddfish]

Shut up all of you before I take my belt off and beat all of you

triggar, pipe down.

Jekz and I are making friends.. :D

i admit that i got a little hasty with my reaction to her posts. though, she was being especially estrogen driven. though, i have to say, for a girl, she sure argues like a guy. intrigue lights are going off everywhere.

so, jekz? are you of age?

[JetRaiden]

STOP RAPING MY THREAD!!! :tear: :tear: :tear: :tear: :tear: :tear:

[SDM]

Take your belt off, and beat martyr, while I take pictures.


[/threadrape]

[Spee]

Shut up all of you before I take my belt off and beat all of you


You aint got shit on the beatin's my dad used to give.


Bring it on, lady :p


/leavesthread

[Triggar]

I already did.


:brow:

[oddfish]

Take your belt off, and beat martyr, while I take pictures.




:lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl:

[Jekz]

Ah yes, I forgot to hurl insults at you, is that it?

[Triggar]

What are you talking about?

[oddfish]

Ah yes, I forgot to hurl insults at you, is that it?


believe it or not, yes :D

have we decided to be cordial yet? or was that "I love you" more sarcasm? since you're so good at camoflauging it, you trickster, you

[Jekz]

What a change in... attitude.

Cordiality is fun. Let's.

[Infernus]

Jet... never post anything about my life again... sure it seemed funny at the time... but this is just scary... :scared:

[Jekz]

Jet... never post anything about my life again... sure it seemed funny at the time... but this is just scary... :scared:
If one knows anything of me in the official forums, it is that I am a grade-A topic derailer.

Fort and I are of the ForumSide outfit "The Hijackers".

[oddfish]

What a change in... attitude.

Cordiality is fun. Let's.


hey, if you don't like the change we can go back to the "whatevers" and "whatever you says" and "i guess you're rights".... of course, all of those with sarcastic undertones because without that those phrases sound rather benign...

[JetRaiden]

Jet... never post anything about my life again... sure it seemed funny at the time... but this is just scary... :scared:

heh. are you kidding? when you come up Im gonna make at least 3 threads about it.

1 for when I hook you up with some slut from around here
another for when you get trashed and I take pictures
and finally one for when we pwn some foo's in paintball. :D

[Triggar]

The topic is now:

Is Chapstik addictive?

Discuss.

[Jekz]

Who doesn't like animosity?

:)

::hugs::

[Infernus]

heh. are you kidding? when you come up Im gonna make at least 3 threads about it.

1 for when I hook you up with some slut from around here
another for when you get trashed and I take pictures
and finally one for when we pwn some foo's in paintball. :D

Well yea... but that'll be fun... this is just... scary...

[oddfish]

Who doesn't like animosity?

:)

::hugs::

personally, i think it makes for great sex. :D

[JetRaiden]

The topic is now:

Is Chapstik addictive?

Discuss.

yes, but I quit at the age of 12. for girls its much worse, it can run up to 15, 16, or even 18.

Friends don't let friends use chapstik.

[Infernus]

yes, but I quit at the age of 12. for girls its much worse, it can run up to 15, 16, or even 18.

Friends don't let friends use chapstik.

Phoenix Infernus: OMFG
Phoenix Infernus: YOU WERE A CHAPSTIK ADDICT TOO?!
stevo891: YES
stevo891: ID GO THROUGH LIKE A STICK A DAY
Phoenix Infernus: All my money went to chapstik...
stevo891: lol
Phoenix Infernus: i would shake when I didn't have any

3 seconds later:

stevo891: "I was sucking dick for chapstik..."
stevo891: well
Phoenix Infernus: er... nah I was just sucking dick

[Setari]

:lol:

[Dharkbayne]

triggar, pipe down.

Jekz and I are making friends.. :D

i admit that i got a little hasty with my reaction to her posts. though, she was being especially estrogen driven. though, i have to say, for a girl, she sure argues like a guy. intrigue lights are going off everywhere.

so, jekz? are you of age?


She's a furry.

[JetRaiden]

HFS JEKZ is a girl!???!!!


pics:

[Rbstr]

OMG we've been over this liek 2 pages back

[Bighoss]

Sex

[oddfish]

Sex

one hour of it can burn up to 700 calories. ;)

[Dharkbayne]

Does that include sex with yourself?

[Infernus]

Does that include sex with yourself?

I lost 35 pounds on the masturbation diet =/

[StrangeFellow]

I lost 35 pounds on the masturbation diet =/
:lol:
is there a book on that?

[Infernus]

It has many books... I prefer- er nevermind.

[AztecWarrior]

... okay.

anyways. believe what you want. that's fine. and if you want, push your beliefs on others, but don't call "foul" when they punch you in the face.
I don't push anything, I recommend. If I was really pushing it, I'd have reported Infernus to one of several associations to help gay Catholics. I did not.

Like you. I simply recommended "Maybe you shouldn't." You disagreed. Great. I went no farther.

EDIT: Fuckit. The thread's been derailed. Let's talk about cheese. I like sharp cheddar.

[Dharkbayne]

http://gphan.com/pics/albums/omghi2u/blah_001.jpg

[Zodiac]

Religion doesn't suck. There have been instances that tarnished the name and reputation of organized religion, but on the whole I oppose nothing that asks people to treat themselves better, to treat others better, and to respect humankind. I have no oppositions to a moral code of conduct that results in better people who hold onto a belief system, who appreciate consequences for their actions.Very well said. Good to see a non beliver around here that dosn't have their head up their bitter little ass spouting off their self-styled enlightened views towards religion and insulting the faithful for their beliefs every chance they get. I salute you.

edit: I myself am neither.

edit2: ah never mind, I assumed Triggar was not religious from here word choice, guess I was wrong according to page three or so.

[Sputty]

I don't push anything, I recommend. If I was really pushing it, I'd have reported Infernus to one of several associations to help gay Catholics. I did not.

Like you. I simply recommended "Maybe you shouldn't." You disagreed. Great. I went no farther.

EDIT: Fuckit. The thread's been derailed. Let's talk about cheese. I like sharp cheddar.
5 members of "overcome", the group devoted to orienting homosexuals to heterosexuality, were raped last night by a drug addled teen, who kept on yelling "zerg rush".

[MrShooter]

i think that intelligent people in an intelligent society needn't develop nor make use of any form of organized religion.

meanwhile, the retards and social neanderthals should have their own little organized religions to give them a moral compass so that they don't go around killing, raping, and stealing everything.

of course, you'll get the occasional sociopath or psycho amongst the intelligencia, but that's gonna happen no matter what.

now, by intelligent people i mean anyone who can sit down and say: well, i shouldn't kill that guy because it's WRONG, not just because jesus says not to. or, i shouldn't steal that because it's WRONG, not just because the bible says it's bad.

in other words, if you NEED religion to tell you what's right and wrong, then you better go to temple, or church, or whatever. on the other hand, if you're smart enough to know the difference between right and wrong, then you shouldn't have to worry about it too much.

organized religion is DESIGNED for people who have no moral compass. i'm not saying that all the people who are members of some organized religion are moral retards, but i am saying it wasn't really designed for them. to those people it's more like something to help them explain the world around them better. who knows, they may be right, but, to be honest, i don't think you need organized religion for that. but, whatever. go to church every sunday because, lemme tellya, going to church every sunday and not eating meat on friday and all that shit is about as significant as a fish taking a shit in the ocean. meh.

:nod: That's the way I feel.

[Jekz]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait...

You're telling me that revenge is wrong and that I'm not intelligent?

:scared:

[Hezzy]

no Hezzy's


:love: :love: :love:

You made me have a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

And I know how to speak german. I might not know every word, but I can speak it. There's no need to place it in every post. That's just showing off.

[Jekz]

...that's a signature.

[Hezzy]

...that's a signature.

... Do the depths of your stupidity have no end?

[Jekz]

Actually, it does, but my cerebral cortex is petitioning the overmind for unlimited access to unintelligence. :lol:

[Ivan]

http://www.tridot.net/images/stuff/HasntDiedYet.jpg (http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=15)

[Dharkbayne]

nb4dalok

[SDM]

Dear Dr. Ivan,

I'm starting to hate everyone again. What should I do?

Sincerely,

SDM

[Dharkbayne]

Eat more cake and masturbate.

[SDM]

Eat more cake and masturbate.
I was asking the doctor, nurse Ratchetbayne.

[Dharkbayne]

DO IT NOW!



heathen.

[Ivan]

Dear Dr. Ivan,

I'm starting to hate everyone again. What should I do?

Sincerely,

SDM
[Einstein Accent]
Well Mr. SDM,
I'd suggest you draw yourself a nice peace full bath, light some candles that smell very nice, and just lay in the nice comforting warm water for about a half of an hour. Then, take a blunt razor and slit your wrists. Remember, and this is important, down the road, not across.

Sincerely,
Dr. Ivan
[/Einstein Accent]

[SDM]

...sage

[martyr]

i thought i locked this thread days ago

[Octavian]

You thought wrong martyr boy.

[Dharkbayne]

nb4dalokx2

[JetRaiden]

nb4dalokx2

^

[OfaLoaf]

nb4dalokx 3 hours after Dhark.

[martyr]

The topic is now:

Is Chapstik addictive?

Discuss.

ask any brass player.

that stuff is dangerous.

[Spee]

ask any brass player.

that stuff is dangerous.



Lies. I played Tuba for 4 years, and never used a molecule of the stuff.

[martyr]

haha, really? our lips (f. horn section) would either freeze to the instrument or fall off, sometimes both (woo-hoo for outdoor performances in buffalo ny)

[BlackDrop]

haha, really? our lips (f. horn section) would either freeze to the instrument or fall off, sometimes both (woo-hoo for outdoor performances in buffalo ny)


I'd really hate to see this thread take another swerve - what school Martyr?
Sweet Home Alumni here.


Oh yea and Chapstick Medicated rules.

[martyr]

clarence. trig went to williamsville north i think

[BlackDrop]

heheh small world.

Class of '94.

[Everay]

now i played the trumbone martyr, and once you get tough lips, you dont need that shit.