What is with women?! [WTF!?]

[oddfish]

So Brittany just broke up with me.

She says that i'm too nice and that she doesn't deserve me. She says that she's still really attracted to me, and that she still wants to see me but that she's affraid of getting too close to me because she's affraid she'll just hurt me.

so, basically, she still wants a physical relationship whenever it's convenient for HER but she doesn't want to feel any obligation to me other than that. that's some selfish fucking shit if i ever heard it.

I hate this shit. I knew i shouldn't have slowed down for anyone. Now look at this shit. This is what you get for being fucking nice to people. This is what you get for being different. This is what you get! You get this happy horseshit.

Too nice. what in the flying fuck is THAT? You know how many times i've heard that? I CAN'T EVEN COUNT 'EM ALL!! girls are so fucking stupid. well, good. i hope the next selfish asshole prick she ends up with she marries. that's great. because all the selfish asshole pricks in the world who don't give a shit about the girls there with other than to fuck 'em and who gives a shit about the rest of their lives well they're just the best this world has to offer. ME? yeah, this is what i get.

My advice: don't be nice, because that's an invitation for people to just walk all over you. Especially girls, because girls are selfish. Very selfish.

Unbelievable. i don't know what's worse: the fact that she's breaking up with me or the fact that she still wants to use me to get off. fucking unbelievable. just like every other girl i've ever met. All they want from me is sex. I'm so fucking sick of this shit. THERE'S OTHER STUFF TO ME THAN JUST MY FUCKING DICK!! HELLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?????

well, she still wants sex, though.. isn't life grand? fucking bullshit.

wonderful. hooray for relationships. btw, Aztec, i blame this all on your God. :P~

[Derfud]

Oh boohoo mr. Im getting laid.

[Rbstr]

Hmm...Another instalment of Rob's observations on life:
Not having the guts to ask chicks out or get to that point has the bonus of not having to deal with break-ups.

But is it better that way?

[oddfish]

Oh boohoo mr. Im getting laid.

fuck you, asshole. i'm sick of being used. it's not as wonderful happy flowers as it sounds. there's other things about me that this sex shit overshadows and it's starting to drive me up a wall because the minute i try to be with someone this stupid shit happens. it's why i got so bad in the first place.

[Hydralisk]

Oh boohoo mr. Im getting laid. That made me lol! :lol::lol:

[oddfish]

That made me lol! :lol::lol:

yeah, you and everyone else.. he he ho ho ha ha.

[Derfud]

Lay off, I was being sarcastic. Take a moment and put yourself in perspective. I wont offer my sympathy to you, but I will tell you that you are more fortunate than alot of people on these boards.

[EineBeBoP]

Hmm...Another instalment of Rob's observations on life:
Not having the guts to ask chicks out or get to that point has the bonus of not having to deal with break-ups.

But is it better that way?



*sigh* I feel your pain.

Im fuckign shy IRL, but online i'm somehow "free" of that.
I've had 2 internet relationships (all of the relationship, not of the physical stuff) and neither ended well.



Sorry to hear about this OF. Im the same way tho, so at least i wont be suprised the first time it happend.

[oddfish]

Lay off, I was being sarcastic. Take a moment and put yourself in perspective. I wont offer my sympathy to you, but I will tell you that you are more fortunate than alot of people on these boards.

why am i more fortunate? because i allow people to use me? because i'm terrified of getting hurt like i have in the past so i try not to get close to people? because emotionally i'm so fucking confused that i'm not even sure if i'm capable of caring this much about Brittany? am i fortunate because i'm too nice to be able to brush off feelings i have for people no matter how long i've been seeing them for? am i fortunate because as soon as i grow some balls and forget about being affraid of getting hurt and get involved CLOSELY with someone that it's easy for them to just throw it away because they're satisfied with the fact that we can just be friends (with benefits, of course, because she doesn't want to give THAT part up)
OH YEAH, and how about having to deal with exes who call and bitch when i do hook up with someone else because NOW they want to get back with ME because ASSHOLE MIKE OR ASSHOLE JOHN treats them like shit and blah blah blah..

whatever.

[AztecWarrior]

wonderful. hooray for relationships. btw, Aztec, i blame this all on your God. :P~
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Just kidding. Hope she does a 180 and turns around, you seem to be a nice guy. And the girl seems to be a fool.

[Derfud]

Because people are attracted to you, many others lack that.

[JetRaiden]

that sux odd. Ive been through more then my fair share of these kinda relationships. :(

[oddfish]

Because people are attracted to you, many others lack that.

it's not all it's cracked up to be. it can be very hurtful. more than anything it causes people to jump into things with me that they're not ready for. they think: OOOH! he's cute AND nice! I WON DUH LOTTO!

but then they realize that they'd rather have the asshole. hooray.

[BUGGER]

Wow, theres more swear words in there than you'd ever hear a black person say. Haha, sry for my racism right there, but yea dont swear for every adverb.


As for the girl, well boohoo. Its 1 chick out of sum billion otherones. I would have seen that coming, what were you doing, thinking of the future, or looking at her ass.


Get over it, if u dont want to see her, than say screw you. Don't deal with her.

[Derfud]

Ok, i understand you have some serious pain, but the way you posted that, in a forum like this, it sounded like it was a cry for attention. I'm not saying everyone here is ugly, I'm saying most arent "getting any", regarding your post most would see it as telling them how much better you are. Just be aware. I apologize if I have caused you more stress.

[Dharkbayne]

Wow, theres more swear words in there than you'd ever hear a black person say. Haha, sry for my racism right there, but yea dont swear for every adverb.


As for the girl, well boohoo. Its 1 chick out of sum billion otherones. I would have seen that coming, what were you doing, thinking of the future, or looking at her ass.


Get over it, if u dont want to see her, than say screw you. Don't deal with her.

YOUR POSTS MAKE MY BRAIN BLEED.

[oddfish]

Bugger.. it's simple. we were happy.. she said it herself that she's been happier with me than any of the other guys she's ever been with. and that's why she's affraid to stay with me. i wasn't looking to the future, ass. i just want a relationship that's going well to last for longer than four weeks, that's all. it's frustrating.

[AztecWarrior]

There are other fish in the sea. Leave the masochists to themselves.

[Rayder]

yeah, you and everyone else.. he he ha ha ho ho.Merry fucking Christmas.

[oddfish]

There are other fish in the sea. Leave the masochists to themselves.


aztec. i will say this. you brought a smile to my face. thank you.


i know there's other fish in the sea, aztec. but i really liked this one. it was quite a catch. :(

[BUGGER]

YOUR POSTS MAKE MY BRAIN BLEED.
[edited]to bad i'm a nice guy, otherwise i would have left that up there

Bugger.. it's simple. we were happy.. she said it herself that she's been happier with me than any of the other guys she's ever been with. and that's why she's affraid to stay with me. i wasn't looking to the future, ass. i just want a relationship that's going well to last for longer than four weeks, that's all. it's frustrating. Well sorry then. Stuff happens. Really, young relationships don't last, a chick dated like every guy at our school a week each....one lasted a month, and it ended just like yours, she said he was too nice and she was just bad, if he was more "rough" she might have stayed. Maybe in the future she'll be a true g/f again, but until then say i dont want to be your bitch.

[Spee]

aztec. i will say this. you brought a smile to my face. thank you.


i know there's other fish in the sea, aztec. but i really liked this one. it was quite a catch. :(



Fish talk: It was quite a catch. So I filleted it and ate it.

Real-life extrapolation: She was cute. So I killed her and became a necropheliac.

I have absolutely no idea why I was compelled to post this, but I was.


my sympathies, Fish. I have the problem of finding all the cute ones are mindless, humorless, witless idiots. And this depresses me. :(

[r3d]

<3 odd
Im here for ya buddy.

[Baneblade]

The solution is pretty simple, stop making sex the defining factor in your relationships.

If whoever you are with jumps into bed with you, they have no intention of doing anything long term...unless they get an Epiphany and that isn't something to count on.

[Octavian]

Im fuckign shy IRL, but online i'm somehow "free" of that.

Finally, people of my kind.

Oh and sorry OF, thanks for telling me not to be nice to girls.

[elana]

Too nice. what in the flying fuck is THAT? You know how many times i've heard that? I CAN'T EVEN COUNT 'EM ALL!! girls are so fucking stupid. well, good. i hope the next selfish asshole prick she ends up with she marries. that's great. because all the selfish asshole pricks in the world who don't give a shit about the girls there with other than to fuck 'em and who gives a shit about the rest of their lives well they're just the best this world has to offer. ME? yeah, this is what i get.


Preach on my brother!

Seriously I spent a lot of time with the "your too nice" thing. Women tend to start off with the notion that they want the exciting bad boy. Then eventually, most of them, after a few of those, realize that the "exciting bad boys" are annoying irresponsible pricks who treat them badly. My wife started off that way.

My guess would be that she's scared, freaking out about the commitment and the seriousness of the relationship. She's afraid she's going to get hurt so she's acting pre-emptively to try to detach herself before she gets in too deep.


well, she still wants sex, though.. isn't life grand? fucking bullshit.


My advice is that you let her squirm on that issue. If you become nothing more than a booty call to her, it'll be bad for both of you.

[Everay]

odd, tis better to loved and lost than never loved at all, many people havent.

[Gigabein]

Hint: find a girl that wants to wait till marriage for sex. whoa! novel concept alert! Of course that means you'd have to wait too.

[Dharkbayne]

I blieve to have great workins of thing if is must of you good happen when word of low is burrito, when paper have many pleasure of fire.

[Electrofreak]

See, its ironic, chicks will tell you that they love you because you are so nice (or "sweet" as they put it) but it always ends up biting you in the ass. I agree, it sucks. Girls are stupid. My latest ex-gf broke up with me for some prick back in Febuary. I hope the dick treats her like shit. God knows I gave that girl everything she wanted...

[Pilgrim]

Quick translation guide from Girl to English

You're too nice = You are boring me to tears.

I'm afraind of hurting you = You are making me feel worthless because I didn't have to fight for you


Now that the definition is outa the way let me explain what many women see in Bad guys... they see a chalenge. They see someone who when they get them all setled down it'll mean something. Not some Convenient lump that may make a good accessory but otherwise is not exciting in the least.

Women have a competitve streak that is thicker and meaner then any man (at least the women worth having)

And finally what I say to all my friends who complain about how all their relationships fail in the same way.

The only constant in all of your failed relationships is you.


Think about it.

[Squeeky]

PSU really needs a Bone Closet.

[MrPaul]

Harsh man, harsh. I used to be like you sound, and it bit me in the ass. In today's society it would seem that no girl wants to date someone with manners, a gentlemen, if you will. No, instead, all they want is someone to call them bitch and shove their tongue down their throat in public. I hate it. Someone with morals trying to find a girl? Ridiculous. So what did I do? I hid my morals. I know I shouldn't have, it made me feel like a man-slut, but I got a girl who previously didn't wanna know. Dumb shit ey? That relationship lasted ~1 year. Stupid, isn't it? You're nice, they don't wanna know, you fuck 'em around, and they want more.

I'd like to see a female perspective on all this. Maybe guys are *generally* the same, and we fuck around with nice girls?

[Triggar]

Oddfish buddy, first let me apologise for my species letting you down. We're an unpredictably bad bunch of people most of the time.

It is my experience that the women who use the "you're too nice" line are shallow bitches not worthy of your time. The kind of girls who care more about a sale at American Eagle ("OMG like, 50% off OMG!!!") than long-term happiness. I'm not blowing sunshine up your ass (but I would if I could :brow: ), it seems to be the truth most of the time.

Secondly, does anyone else notice the role-reversal here? THe woman breaks up with the man, says she still wants him around for sex, he gets pissed off and feels used? I love that women are getting more ballsy. Um, except when they hurt one of my friends.

Thirdly, don't stop being nice just because some bitch dumped you because of it (no offense, but I didn't think she was that cute anyhow). I've dated plenty of assholes - guys who'd rather get wasted and pick fights than get me flowers - and who is it that I have a long-term, incredibly happy and stable relationship with? A guy who, the other night when he heard my stomach rumble, jumped out of bed, made me dinner and brought it to me on a tray.

My point is, whether it's next week or next year, you'll eventually find a woman with self-esteem that will allow her to let people be nice to her. You don't need these types with the "daddy hurt me now I'll never be close to another man" bullshit baggage types. THey think you're too nice? That's their problem. Fuck them, they weren't that hot anyhow.

Good luck buddy. I hope you don't get jaded because of this...


You're too nice for that ;)

[oddfish]

Oddfish buddy, first let me apologise for my species letting you down. We're an unpredictably bad bunch of people most of the time.

It is my experience that the women who use the "you're too nice" line are shallow bitches not worthy of your time. The kind of girls who care more about a sale at American Eagle ("OMG like, 50% off OMG!!!") than long-term happiness. I'm not blowing sunshine up your ass (but I would if I could :brow: ), it seems to be the truth most of the time.

Secondly, does anyone else notice the role-reversal here? THe woman breaks up with the man, says she still wants him around for sex, he gets pissed off and feels used? I love that women are getting more ballsy. Um, except when they hurt one of my friends.

Thirdly, don't stop being nice just because some bitch dumped you because of it (no offense, but I didn't think she was that cute anyhow). I've dated plenty of assholes - guys who'd rather get wasted and pick fights than get me flowers - and who is it that I have a long-term, incredibly happy and stable relationship with? A guy who, the other night when he heard my stomach rumble, jumped out of bed, made me dinner and brought it to me on a tray.

My point is, whether it's next week or next year, you'll eventually find a woman with self-esteem that will allow her to let people be nice to her. You don't need these types with the "daddy hurt me now I'll never be close to another man" bullshit baggage types. THey think you're too nice? That's their problem. Fuck them, they weren't that hot anyhow.

Good luck buddy. I hope you don't get jaded because of this...


You're too nice for that ;)


trig, thanks. i see what your saying

but, i tend to agree with pilgrim. i think maybe i was boring her. her previous boyfriend was a complete piece of shit who wouldn't even let her hang out with her own friends. i guess i just didn't put enough pressure on her to try to improve me somehow. i have plenty of flaws, just not the ones that seemed to bother her. 'skinda fucked up, but yeah, i must've bored her. which makes no sense to me, but, whatever.

[Triggar]

Fuck that.

Wait it out until you find someone who doesn't care that you have flaws. Who doesn't get bored with you. Who thinks you are the greatest thing God ever made.

Dude, it's indescribably worth it.

[oddfish]

Fuck that.

Wait it out until you find someone who doesn't care that you have flaws. Who doesn't get bored with you. Who thinks you are the greatest thing God ever made.

Dude, it's indescribably worth it.


i know. and, hell, i'm only 20. but, damn.. this has happened so many times.

i just seem to see what pilgrim's saying: the only constant is me. this is my fault. i guess being nice is being boring. whatever. i'll have to settle for two week flings until i'm about 30, basically. nothing wrong with that... i guess...

[Triggar]

You're right, it is your fault. You, for one reason or another, probably keep going for women with low self-esteem. Women with baggage. Women who are looking for a man to fix everything in their lives.

Of course, I've never met these girls. But trust me when I tell you that I have encountered enough real-life experience with situations like yours, and in all honesty I've been right a whole hell of a lot of times.

[oddfish]

You're right, it is your fault. You, for one reason or another, probably keep going for women with low self-esteem. Women with baggage. Women who are looking for a man to fix everything in their lives.

Of course, I've never met these girls. But trust me when I tell you that I have encountered enough real-life experience with situations like yours, and in all honesty I've been right a whole hell of a lot of times.


i guess i'm just not the best judge of character. heh.

[TotalBiscuit]

My sympathies. I've been through similar experiences with the whole 'You're too nice' gag (in my belief, the women that said that were psychopathic, and I don't think I'd be far wrong in that assessment..)

Being a jerk is not the answer. It's quite possible to be both nice and kinda cocky at the same time. There's some crazy doubleyourdating newsletter that I used to read before I started going out with my gf of over a year and it explained all this stuff pretty well. All about some crazy 'how to build and maintain attraction without being a complete ass' thing.

But yeah, rambling. I'm no dating councillor.

TB.

[elana]

It is my experience that the women who use the "you're too nice" line are shallow bitches not worthy of your time.

So... should I, or should I not tell my wife that you think she was a shallow bitch? :)

Honestly the "nice guy" thing is just an easy out for women. I don't think it reflects shallowness, but it seems like a relatively harmless way to dump somebody. It's easier on yourself to dump somebody with trying to be nice to them and saying how you want to be friends, and how nice they really are.

[Red October]

LOL! Been the receiving end of "too nice' many times. Ironcily, one of the reasons why my wife married me was because I was a very nice individual. What Elana said, "too nice" is just the quick and easy way to dump someone with no real apparent reason or the reasons will make you look really bad.

too nice = I need some space = I don't feal were really connecting anymore = 100% USDA Grade A Bullshit.

Don't let it get to you, get up and move on.

[Triggar]

So... should I, or should I not tell my wife that you think she was a shallow bitch? :)

No no!! When Heather says it, she's not saying it to dump you (well except that one time, before you were married :D ) !!

[Hezzy]

Oh boohoo mr. Im getting laid.

Lay off.

why am i more fortunate? because i allow people to use me? because i'm terrified of getting hurt like i have in the past so i try not to get close to people?

I know how you feel.


EDIT: Wise words of my dad: "Don't treat women like humans. They're something else."

[SDM]

I had a string of these along with a 1yr marriage to one. Do what I did. Take 3yrs off from women and spank it. Stop looking for women. You don't need one.



...Then when you least expect it, one finds you, and after a few years to clear your head, you can see if shes the right one or a nut jub.

At 20 years old you have time to take a few years and work on yourself. You'ld be amazed at how much clearer you see things when you aren't on "the hunt". Stop being stupid. You obviously have no business being in a relationship right now. Take some time, improve yourself, figure out exactly what you want in a relationship, and let one happen based on that. When she comes along she might not look hotT in a bikini. (OMG NO)

Take a while so you can see truth young Padawan.

[oddfish]

I had a string of these along with a 1yr marriage to one. Do what I did. Take 3yrs off from women and spank it. Stop looking for women. You don't need one.



...Then when you least expect it, one finds you, and after a few years to clear your head, you can see if shes the right one or a nut jub.

At 20 years old you have time to take a few years and work on yourself. You'ld be amazed at how much clearer you see things when you aren't on "the hunt". Stop being stupid. You obviously have no business being in a relationship right now. Take some time, improve yourself, figure out exactly what you want in a relationship, and let one happen based on that. When she comes along she might not look hotT in a bikini. (OMG NO)

Take a while so you can see truth young Padawan.

SDM. i hope you know i think that you're one of the wisest members of PSU. thanks for the advice. it means quite a bit to know that you care enough to give it.

same goes for you, Triggar. ;) thanks, both of you.

[Triggar]

Oh holy justice.

Did SDM just make a --gasp-- normal post? Holy shit, SDM, you were once married? Did you do her up the butt?

[Mag]

Just out've curiousity, how old're you SDM? The anal jokes kind've throw a bit of a veil over the wisdom, albeit the hillarity of 'em.

[oddfish]

i'd say he's 26-28ish.. but i may be wrong.

[Triggar]

I peg SDM at 33.

[Sputty]

obbfish, I concur with derfud
If you feel you're being "used" dhitb with no lube

[Infernus]

I can offer no advice on girls... or dating for that matter... I suck at it...


...guys are so much easier cause most of the time I know what they are thinking...

[Sputty]

Which is "omg omgomg sechs sechs omgomgomgomg"



Edit:

BTW, all women see me as a big teddy bear that can be creepy sometimes. No sexual considerations at all. And infernus wasn't even nice enough to say I'm "hotT" on IRC"
:(

[Zodiac]

Oh boohoo mr. Im getting laid.
hahahaha!

[SDM]

I peg SDM at 33.
You peg correct, and yes, I did the x-wife in the butt.

[oddfish]

You peg correct, and yes, I did the x-wife in the butt.

that's my *****.

i bet she walked very funny for a week after that. :nod:

[Electrofreak]

I've been off "the hunt" as SDM put it since my last breakup. I definately miss having a woman to snuggle with when watchin a movie late at night, but it hasn't been too bad. The only question is if/when I'll ever find another girl I'm interested in. At the rate I'm going (either sitting in front of my computer all day or going to work) I'm not going to run into the chick of my dreams any time soon.

[JetRaiden]

I can offer no advice on girls... or dating for that matter... I suck at it...


...guys are so much easier cause most of the time I know what they are thinking...

:rolleyes: yea but finding gay guys is like finding a gold penny at the Federal Reserve, at least from how you described it. :p

[Sputty]

You peg correct, and yes, I did the x-wife in the butt.
nkd pix plz

[BizSAR]

I'm 38, and have had this happen a few times. My expiriences have taught me that many times, when they break up, giving the reason "You're too nice", it's just an easy way to nicely (in their mind, since they can't read yours) end the relationship for whatever reason, good or bad. It's an "out".

At some point, I too just "gave up" and let life take me wherever it felt. After about 5 years of just hanging out and making as many friends as I could (of both sexes), I met my soul's mate (and she met hers). We're as happy as clams, and will get married someday soon.

The point is, don't worry about chix or having a girlfriend, etc. JUST GO ENJOY LIFE. Have fun! Do what YOU want to do! Be yourself! Eventually, you'll find your mate, likely doing the same things you're doing and being herself too.

Also, tis FAR better to find someone you like, likes you, and has similar interests, but maybe isn't a model or have a perfect body, than to be miserable mentally and emotionally, and be with somebody that is a perfect 10 for looks and/or body.
Don't go for looks, go for happiness.