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Sputty
2004-09-21, 08:19 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1516&ncid=1516&e=1&u=/afp/20040921/od_afp/offbeat_japan_education_040921085846

Kids in Land of the Rising Sun in the dark over astronomy

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TOKYO (AFP) - They may come from the Land of the Rising Sun, but many Japanese children do not know the solar body sets in the west and also think it circles the Earth, a researcher at the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan said.


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But their ignorance of basic astronomy is not because they are poor students -- just the opposite, they have learned badly thought-out lessons by rote, Hidehiko Agata, an assistant professor at the observatory told AFP Tuesday.


A team led by Agata questioned a total of 1,692 students aged nine to 13 in three different surveys from June 2001 to June 2004.


In one survey of 720 pupils, 27 percent did not know that the Sun sets in the west, while two percent explained the Moon's waxing and waning by choosing the explanation "the Moon has many shapes".


In another sample, out of 348 students asked to circle the correct statement to describe the Earth's orbital relationship to the Sun, 42 percent circled "the Sun goes around the Earth", while 56 percent picked the correct answer.


Only 39 percent correctly answered that the Moon orbits the Earth in the same way as man-made satellites.


Agata said that under the Japanese elementary school curriculum introduced in 2002, teachers only explain the movement of the Sun, the Moon and the stars as viewed from the perspective of the ground.


"This is a case of students answering as they are taught rather than them just making a mistake," he said.


Agata also noted students in rural areas with more experience of outdoors more often answered correctly than children from Japan's brightly-lit cities where the night sky is only dimly visible.


"Students' experience with nature has become very limited so I think that is a big reason for this result," he said.


Agata presented his surveys Tuesday to a meeting of the the Astronomical Society of Japan.

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 08:27 PM
Interesting

firecrackerNC
2004-09-21, 08:29 PM
Hey now. I had a Japanese exchange student friend and he wasn't stupid. Taku rocked, funny, a weightlifting beast and was a major party guy. He went to all the partys and always got drunk and/or stoned and yet he got like a 4.0 gpa.

Everay
2004-09-21, 08:29 PM
my god, what dumb fucks, corr, your wrong man! WRONG! but thats japanese japanese, japanese americans are smart, but dont confuse them with vietnamese, because vietnamese are gangsta rap.

Dharkbayne
2004-09-21, 08:30 PM
Duh, sputty, everyone knows the only thing Asians are good at is Starcraft, Math, and DDR. :p

firecrackerNC
2004-09-21, 08:32 PM
Lol actually funny you should say that I got a Vietnamese friend who is a gangsta/drug dealer/rapper. Hes cool tho he hooks me up with good prices so I cant say anything bad bout him.

Dharkbayne
2004-09-21, 08:33 PM
Lol actually funny you should say that I got a Vietnamese friend who is a gangsta/drug dealer/rapper. Hes cool tho he hooks me up with good prices so I cant say anything bad bout him.


Can you talk about ANYTHING but getting drunk/high?


WOW! YOU SMOKE POT! UR SO KEWL! BE MY FRIEND PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

Ivan
2004-09-21, 08:35 PM
* Ivan sets mode: *Hate!*@* #PSU

firecrackerNC
2004-09-21, 08:40 PM
I said he was a drug dealer and hooks me up with good prices yet I didn't say he hooks me up with drugs. Mabey he hooks me up with candy or Black n milds?

Ivan
2004-09-21, 08:43 PM
Let's bring this thread back on topic please...

Sputty
2004-09-21, 08:48 PM
K, the japanese suck

Electrofreak
2004-09-21, 08:51 PM
Asian schoolchildren might be dumb but the time they get to high school those kids are geniuses.

firecrackerNC
2004-09-21, 08:52 PM
Asians rock and are damn smart. I have 3 asian friends all from different countries all freakin cool.

Ivan
2004-09-21, 08:54 PM
Now here�s a question, Russia is in Asia, do you call a Russian Asian?

firecrackerNC
2004-09-21, 08:57 PM
Holy shitez I never thought of that.

Doop
2004-09-21, 09:09 PM
Asians talk funny.

firecrackerNC
2004-09-21, 09:11 PM
Lol yep. I have a chinease friend that still sounds funny tho every year it sounds more and more normal and the Japanese kid was hilarious. He didnt know all the bad words and we had to teach him. He'd be like " God damnit this is shit, I forgot fucking homework. I need to get this bitch from locker plz" But in accent heavy voice. He learned after a week tho not to use those words but it was fun while it lasted.

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 09:26 PM
Now here�s a question, Russia is in Asia, do you call a Russian Asian?
Well, Russia is in Europe, Siberia is in Asia...so probably not.

Ivan
2004-09-21, 09:37 PM
90% of Russia is in Asia
http://www.small-hydro.com/Images/continents.gif

Edit- ok well maybe not 90% but most of it.

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 09:39 PM
You have that backwards, 90% of Russia is in Europe. But 100% of Siberia is in Asia.

DeepStrikeck
2004-09-21, 09:45 PM
umm, its one country, those are just sections.

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 09:49 PM
Siberia is an occupied country.

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/world/A0861075.html

oddfish
2004-09-21, 09:56 PM
Siberia is actually in Itally.. and Russia is a province of Australia just north of Brazil. duh!

you guys are so dumb.

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 09:58 PM
Rufflechips

ChewyLSB
2004-09-21, 09:59 PM
You call a Russian some ethnicity based on where in the country they come from. If they come from the European part, they're European. If they come from the Asian part, they're Asian.

Personally, I'm a Taiwanese person, although technically I'm Chinese since Taiwan is still part of China.

oddfish
2004-09-21, 10:00 PM
I'm African. I speak Swahili(sp?)

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 10:01 PM
Well Taiwan is another interesting deal hehe.

MSI rules though.

oddfish
2004-09-21, 10:03 PM
Well Taiwan is another interesting deal hehe.

MSI rules though.

I have a funny hat. It was made out of a lions head. I have a spear. I can throw a spear. It is good.

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 10:04 PM
I have a funny hat. It was made out of a lions head. I have a spear. I can throw a spear. It is good.
Weren't you on Survivor?

JetRaiden
2004-09-21, 10:04 PM
they need to learn to abandon tradition for reality.

ObnoxiousFrog
2004-09-21, 10:06 PM
carot underscore carot

oddfish
2004-09-21, 10:07 PM
Weren't you on Survivor?

I ate your dog. It had too much fur and needed garlic and salt. I snuck in your house and peed on the carpet. Then I threw a spear at your car. Your car is stronger than my spear. I have to make a new spear.

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 10:08 PM
I think this thread is derailed. Thank you AmTrak.

oddfish
2004-09-21, 10:09 PM
I think this thread is derailed. Thank you AmTrak.

I want to pee on your carpet again. Buy another dog. I am hungry. I still need to make a new spear. I think I lost my hat.

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 10:09 PM
I ate your dog. It had too much fur and needed garlic and salt. I snuck in your house and peed on the carpet. Then I threw a spear at your car. Your car is stronger than my spear. I have to make a new spear.
I pick teeth with broke spear.

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 10:10 PM
I want to pee on your carpet again. Buy another dog. I am hungry. I still need to make a new spear. I think I lost my hat.
Your urin no good this village.

ObnoxiousFrog
2004-09-21, 10:10 PM
I'm white.

Do you like cotton?

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 10:11 PM
I'm white.

Do you like cotton?
Polyester foo

oddfish
2004-09-21, 10:12 PM
I am at your back door with a big knife that i made out of the aluminum siding on your neighbor's house. I want my broken spear back. I am peeing on your mother's geranium flowers. I found my lion hat. I am better learning to speak English. I sm no longer only able to speak Swahili(sp?)

Java Applet Window

Flying Saucer

Tofu and Bean Sprouts

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 10:14 PM
I live desert, stucco make bad knife.

JetRaiden
2004-09-21, 10:15 PM
GUYS GET BACK ON TOPIC!!!!1 :mad:


so, about those stupid asians....

Baneblade
2004-09-21, 10:16 PM
I met a Pong Wang Ping once.

Jekz
2004-09-22, 03:39 PM
Well... I don't recall there being any famous Japanese astronomers.

oddfish
2004-09-22, 03:45 PM
Well... I don't recall there being any famous Japanese astronomers.

What about Wo Ping Wang? Or Zhou Fun-Ling? Or Min Po Lang? Or Kai Gin-Pan???? What about them?? HUH?

Triggar
2004-09-22, 03:46 PM
What about Chiaki Mukai, mo' fo's?

She's leet.

oddfish
2004-09-22, 03:47 PM
What about Chiaki Mukai, mo' fo's?

She's leet.


yeah, her too! and don't forget Phan Duk-Lee!!

Baneblade
2004-09-22, 03:51 PM
The closest thing to an astronomer Japan has is in an Anime cartoon.

Jekz
2004-09-22, 04:41 PM
How's their space program coming along? :lol:

OfaLoaf
2004-09-22, 04:49 PM
The Chinese had decent astronomers in like, the Zhou dynasty.

Baneblade
2004-09-22, 04:50 PM
Japanese are too worried about falling off their rocks to look up.

Everay
2004-09-22, 05:05 PM
you know, all chinese names sound alike to me, its almost impossible for me to remember the different people of their history.

oddfish
2004-09-22, 05:31 PM
HAW HAW HAW! U clazy ameican think youu sooooooo fawny! haw haw haw!! you gonna fin' ouh reeeer soon, we gawt bettel nuke ploglan den youuuuuu!! haw haw haw haw! reell falny, haw haw haw!

OfaLoaf
2004-09-22, 05:43 PM
HAW HAW HAW! U clazy ameican think youu sooooooo fawny! haw haw haw!! you gonna fin' ouh reeeer soon, we gawt bettel nuke ploglan den youuuuuu!! haw haw haw haw! reell falny, haw haw haw!

We Say Hello!
We Say Hello!
We Say Hello!

Wraithlord
2004-09-22, 06:43 PM
I know if they did the same thing in american schools half the kids would answer wrong just because its such a stupid question, for the sake of fucking with statistics...I don't think japanese kids are any different in that regard

ChewyLSB
2004-09-22, 07:02 PM
The reason so many chinese names sound similar in English is because English doesn't have nearly as diverse a range of sounds that Chinese requires. I mean, how many spellings of the name "Mao De Zong" do we need?

I don't even know hod you'd translate my chinese name into English.

Hamma
2004-09-22, 08:49 PM
This thread is racist.

Jekz
2004-09-22, 08:54 PM
Humorously so.

OfaLoaf
2004-09-22, 08:55 PM
This thread is racist.
Everybody's a bit racist....




So? I tell redneck jokes, I know a guy who tells Polish jokes, how are Asian jokes any different?

Everay
2004-09-22, 08:57 PM
i wasnt trying to make a joke, im serious, i try hard to get the names down, but shit dude, they either all sound alike or are too long or too similar in spelling. at least to me.

Jekz
2004-09-22, 08:57 PM
Because six out of every ten internet users spells "Asian" as "Asain"?

Baneblade
2004-09-22, 08:59 PM
I spell Asian: H-A-W-T

Jekz
2004-09-22, 08:59 PM
Who does not?

Baneblade
2004-09-22, 09:02 PM
Ping doesn't, but he is crazy.

Jekz
2004-09-22, 09:03 PM
Ah, das ist Recht.

OfaLoaf
2004-09-22, 09:07 PM
Because six out of every ten internet users spells "Asian" as "Asain"?
I was typing fast, so sorry Jekz-san. (or is it sama?)

UncleDynamite
2004-09-22, 09:07 PM
^_^!

Jekz
2004-09-22, 09:14 PM
Staliness.

Don the red minx coat.

oddfish
2004-09-22, 09:15 PM
I Hates Everyone Who Don't Look Just Like Meeeeeeeeee!!! Durk A Durrrr!!

UncleDynamite
2004-09-22, 09:19 PM
Durk A Durrrr!!

DURK!

http://www.reboelje.nl/images/durk.jpg

oddfish
2004-09-22, 09:19 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:






















btw... is Dharkie banned AGAIN???? i missed it.

UncleDynamite
2004-09-22, 09:21 PM
Dharkie angered the Durkieman. Fear the Durkieman. He'll Durkie you up your pooper hole.

oddfish
2004-09-22, 09:22 PM
Dharkie angered the Durkieman. Fear the Durkieman. He'll Durkie you up your pooper hole.

wha? :doh:

UncleDynamite
2004-09-22, 09:23 PM
I don't know. But Hamma did say he was going to ban some idiots...

oddfish
2004-09-22, 09:24 PM
ah fuck i'm probably next.. *sigh* i just wonder how long he's going to do it for... :(

Jekz
2004-09-22, 09:27 PM
::cowers::

oddfish
2004-09-22, 09:28 PM
::cowers::

why? what's he gonna ban YOU for? you don't have my reputation, sweetheart. :D

ObnoxiousFrog
2004-09-22, 09:50 PM
Needs moar Mr. Roboto.

WIOTH PARTZ MAID IN JAPN! ^_^

oddfish
2004-09-22, 09:51 PM
Needs moar Mr. Roboto.

WIOTH PARTZ MAID IN JAPN! ^_^


NEEDS MOAR CRINT EASTWOO!!! HAI HAI!! XD

Baneblade
2004-09-23, 11:15 AM
Incoming BAN units!

oddfish
2004-09-23, 12:33 PM
Incoming BAN units!

INCOMING ANIME UNITS!!

>.< -_- ^.^ +.+ >_< ^_^ 0.o 0_0 o_0

HELP!

HELP!

Fantastic!

You call yourself a soldier?

Destroy their medical facilities!

We need a medic!

Well met.

Baneblade
2004-09-23, 12:42 PM
Destroy their Medical Terminals!

oddfish
2004-09-23, 12:51 PM
Destroy their Medical Terminals!


Hail!

Warning! Sniper!

Baneblade
2004-09-23, 12:56 PM
Resecure our Control Console!

Wraithlord
2004-09-23, 08:41 PM
http://fool.coma.aisnet.jp/top.jpg

Wraithlord
2004-09-23, 08:42 PM
http://www.breakin-out.net/pics/moonie_kekeke_%5E%5E_peaces.jpg

Wraithlord
2004-09-24, 06:33 PM
look damnit!