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SniperDude
2004-09-22, 04:28 AM
I'm sure this, or something similar, has been posted a million and a half times. But has anyone actually thought about the 30mm BD. I mean c'mon, the GAU-8 in the A-10 uses 30mm rounds to rip apart tanks, and if you actually see one in real life, the shell is the size of a Mag light. I know it's cool to have a 30mm rifle, but something that big would not only kill ANY LIVING THING in one shot, it'd pretty much rip a human in half. Dun know, just my thoughts.

L8

Ghandi90
2004-09-22, 06:56 AM
Well dont ya think gettin hit with a decimator would hurt too(as in one shot kill rexo)...i mean a direct hit...
Your right though... however this games weponry isnt very realistic when it comes right down to it...

Kam
2004-09-22, 08:12 AM
You mean like how a pistol can damage a tank. :/

Lartnev
2004-09-22, 08:44 AM
Only with AP ammo (at least now I think) :)

Nah it's a balance thing, rock paper scissors. All weapons have strengths and weaknesses. A weapon that could chew through anything regardless would require one hell of a downside. (Yeah yeah I know there are a few candidates for that already :p)

Kam
2004-09-22, 10:06 AM
I don't care what kind of rounds it shoots, a 9 mm bullet will most likely scratch the paint on a tank.

Baneblade
2004-09-22, 10:19 AM
The paint gets scratched no matter what you shoot at it. Why the armor has to go down is a seperate issue.

Warborn
2004-09-22, 12:03 PM
Realism is a tool, not a goal.

edit: Also, this isn't a dilemma.

Queensidecastle
2004-09-22, 01:07 PM
PS really isnt trying to be realistic. That of course is all made impossible by the introduction of alien tech, planets, max suits...etc It would be a very boring game if they tried to stick to realism. I believe the biggest infantry carryable Sniper rifle in the real world shoots only 20mm rounds and it devastates. It would be much more "realistic" if they called it a 20mm instead of a 30mm but oh well

ChewyLSB
2004-09-22, 07:12 PM
.50 cal beretta?

Death909
2004-09-23, 06:44 AM
AP rounds don't exist for most infantry weapons, but if tank APDS (Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot) rounds were made at 9 mm scale they would cut through a good deal of any modern tank's armour. Which is why PlanetSide has futuristic tanks and modern manafacturers don't make 9mm APDS rounds.

oddfish
2004-09-23, 01:01 PM
Personally i think that they need to make another weapon that's like the deci, only it's single shot, almost instantly hits the target, and can instantly decimate a medium armor vehicle like Empire specific buggies and such. Also, the fucker'd take up a shitload of space. I think that this would be cool because yeah, you'd have to give up a lot of storage for this weapon, but you'd be able to hammer vehicles by yourself. But, of course, only one would fit in any given inventory and as i said, single shot. This way you couldn't just keep shooting the fucking thing. Also, it would be basically useless against infantry. It'd be like a panzerfaust. Shaped charge to really knock the piss out of armor, but the explosion itself has the blast radius of a firecracker. The decimator, in my oppinion, just doesn't cut it as an anti-ANYthing weapon in my opinion. Three shots or not, it's just not that useful. I rarely, if ever, see anyone carting one of those things around. I dunno. bananas.

Baneblade
2004-09-23, 01:21 PM
The Deci is still the best way to kill MAXes right?

Papagiorgio
2004-09-23, 05:25 PM
http://www.gun-world.net/USA/Barrett/payload0001.jpg
http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/xm_109_1.jpg

That's the biggest current payload on a sniper rifle, the Barrett XM-109.

SniperDude
2004-09-23, 07:31 PM
...edit: Also, this isn't a dilemma.


It is my personal mental delima of grasping the whole 2 shot concept because I work with REAL 30mm rounds on a daily basis.

Queensidecastle
2004-09-24, 11:08 AM
Actually from the TR Perspective, I think the Striker is almost always better at killing MAXs in any given situation than the Decimator. Since you can usually use hit and run tactics when attacking a MAX, the fact that it takes many more missles for the striker than the Deci really doesnt seem to be much of a problem. Also the tracking works indoors just dandy. The only reason I ever pack a Deci now is to take out spawn tubes. The Decimator does need a defined role. Killing MAXs used to be its defined role, but now its not so great at doing this (which is ok, MAXs were far too weak against this) I think it should be beefed up against vehicles somehow

Electrofreak
2004-09-25, 12:51 AM
I'm sure this, or something similar, has been posted a million and a half times. But has anyone actually thought about the 30mm BD. I mean c'mon, the GAU-8 in the A-10 uses 30mm rounds to rip apart tanks, and if you actually see one in real life, the shell is the size of a Mag light. I know it's cool to have a 30mm rifle, but something that big would not only kill ANY LIVING THING in one shot, it'd pretty much rip a human in half. Dun know, just my thoughts.

L8
Its called l337 ARMOR OF TEH FUTUR3.

As for the whole discussion concerning AV, I find that I can kill MAXs fastest with the Rocklet Rifle. No, I'm not kidding, to try it for yourself, the thing is a MAX's worst nightmare.

Queensidecastle
2004-09-25, 09:52 AM
You are right about the Rocklet! I just get too much grief with it to use it :/