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I want to talk about the Radiator. It looks deadly, I love the name,and I love everything else about it, except that the only way to kill someone is by shooting on an enemy that is afk. I wish there would be a secondary fire mode, for example little balls of energy (AT) that travel quickly, I would love this weapon if it would be a little easier to kill someone with... I mean the only effective aspect of this weapon is that you can shoot on doors so the enemies do not want to pass. :rolleyes:
Otherwise I think with all other weapons you are actually able to kill someone that is actually PLAYING, not afk.
CassH
2004-09-26, 11:31 AM
Well the main point of that wepon is not to pad your kill count (i took that from someone i dont know who) but to hold the enemy back most enemys wont run through a door or hall that would constently hurt them.
Try a malstrom There easy to kill with.
yeh, i know but i would want the radiator to also become a little better, take the Maelstorm, easy kill weapon...I know what you mean though, but its kinda boring just shooting somewhere while the others get kills...
yeah, it's under "Special Assault" for a reason. Even though the damage isn't great, most people don't like standing in pain fields.
Cauldron Borne
2004-09-26, 02:05 PM
If you have SA and HA, and Rexo, you can make a leathal combo:
Fire a few rounds of Radiator stuff down the bend of a hall, then switch to the maelstrom and fire a few grenades down the hall. The combines damage is equal to four thumpers. You can essentially hold off an entire Back Door Zerg.
Baneblade
2004-09-26, 03:23 PM
Radiating an AMS is mad fun for the whole family.
EarlyDawn
2004-09-26, 03:27 PM
I still wished the fields stacked.
JetRaiden
2004-09-26, 03:44 PM
its more of a support weapon then anything. it may not do much damage, but it works extremely well at stopping an enemy army in its tracks at close quarters.
I wish the fields stacked.
I agree.
Baneblade
2004-09-26, 03:46 PM
Does it stack in a pain mod equipped spawn room?
JetRaiden
2004-09-26, 04:00 PM
Does it stack in a pain mod equipped spawn room?
well, the radiator pain field and pain module fields stack together if thats what you mean, I guess.
Baneblade
2004-09-26, 04:01 PM
Yeah, never tried that to see how well it would work for defence.
ORANGE
2004-09-26, 04:55 PM
back door + radiator = win
Atlas24
2004-09-26, 05:08 PM
Radiator is wicked, end of story.
As far as stacking fields go:
Stacking fields + sticky mode + MAXes = uberosity umimaginable. End of story.
Baneblade
2004-09-26, 05:22 PM
How many times is this story goin to End? I see a prequel comin.
ORANGE
2004-09-26, 07:47 PM
I think the prequel should be something like a thumper and a radioactive pile of glop fell in love and had a child and it was the radiator, now while still a young....thing, it got picked on by all the other young things because it wasn't really a thumper or a radioactive pile of glop, then one day it flew away before the wormhole opened and found Auraxis with the help of magical trevor (see here (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/37/)) and met the vanu and they were all like "With this weapon we could be the leet." and they all agreed one day however the vanu disappeared leaving the newly named Maelstrom behind, then the wormhole opened and down came all those things that had previously shunned him and wanted their help and however instead of taking sides in the growing war he decided to become a mercenary, working for the power that came from the weapons modules that provided him with his much needed.........um I dunno, and then yeah end of the prequel
EDIT: Almost forgot down with punctuation up with the Anti-Disestablishment Committee on Un-American Activities
Cauldron Borne
2004-09-26, 08:17 PM
Magical Trevor is my new hero.
/Deep Theatrical Tone of Voice:
When a magical glop and a thumper fall in love without their parent's permission, and have unprotected sex, a child is born!
The outcast, the rejected, the radiator. This unwanted radiator embarks on a journey filled with action, adventeur, fear, and love. See it in theaters fall, 2000never.
ORANGE
2004-09-26, 08:18 PM
look at him now dissapearing a cow
MrShooter
2004-09-26, 10:39 PM
Radiating an AMS is mad fun for the whole family.
:rofl:
So are galaxys that are being loaded
Firefly
2004-09-26, 10:41 PM
Effective Radiator tactic - switch to secondary fire mode and fire it at a wall turret. It kills the men inside. Setting up multiple pain fields is a solid tactic - it ignores armor and goes straight to health. I believe it can also kill troops inside a vehicle as well.
Secondary fire fires the weapon in a straight-line trajectory and the projectile clings. Can't go wrong with that.
JetRaiden
2004-09-26, 10:55 PM
Effective Radiator tactic - switch to secondary fire mode and fire it at a wall turret. It kills the men inside. Setting up multiple pain fields is a solid tactic - it ignores armor and goes straight to health. I believe it can also kill troops inside a vehicle as well.
Secondary fire fires the weapon in a straight-line trajectory and the projectile clings. Can't go wrong with that.
true. I like the radiator for its unsurpassed useage as a suppression weapon. nothing keeps enemies where you want them quite like a radiator; snipers, camps, MAXes, you name it.
KIAsan
2004-09-27, 02:56 AM
Couple of points about the radiator:
1. Only fire in secondary mode
2. They work great on AMSs and Flails (gets them to undeploy and move).
3. You wont get a lot of kills (I killed all of maybe 1 flail and 1 wall turret gunner)
4. You attract attention away from the grunts (for some reason you attract attention and draw fire)
5. It's a great area denial weapon. Not for just back doors, but walls and ridgelines too. I like to fire them on secondary mode all along the top of a wall, it keeps the defenders well back. Also, radiators are made for defending tech plant vehicle bays.
In general, I think SOE goofed it on SA. Once they took the Deci away, they took most people reasons for certing SA. True, thumper is a good weapon (as is the rocklet). Radiator is a good too. But, there are really no great "gotta have" weapons in the lot. Now, if you where to allow radiator damage to stack, then you would see lots more radiators and lots more SA certs (not to mention, lots more weapons locks :) )
Atlas24
2004-09-27, 12:24 PM
End Of Story.
Electrofreak
2004-09-27, 05:29 PM
I heard an idea about taking the maelstrom chain-lash nades, nerfing them a bit, placing them onto the radiator as an alternate fire mode, and then buffing the vortex whip of the maelstrom to compensate. I rather like the idea.
I use the radiator pretty effectively sometimes, again, its not a weapon made for kills but combined with a thumper you can put on some serious hurt. Radiator field to sort of push and herd the enemy back to where you want them, and then Thumper to inflict some serious pain. Works great indoors. Same tactic works well when people are firing at you from a walltop.
I have had 2 great experiences with the Radiator. 1 was killing an full Prowler crew with Radiator fields in the Caverns. The second happened last week, when someone broadcasted that a VS MAX Crash was heading towards the back door, so I laid about 10 fields along the hallway of the back door. By the time the dozen or so VS MAX entered the inside of the base, they all had less than 50 health.
:D
Queensidecastle
2004-09-27, 05:44 PM
I dont use the Maelstrom except for rare circumstances. The MCG has faster TTK up close and just shreds foes. The Maelstrom takes longer to kill and the grenades chew threw ammo and really only seem to be effective at suppression. I like the use of the Radiator but gave up SA long ago
KIAsan
2004-09-28, 12:18 AM
Maelstrom is great, if you have a mod in the SOI. Otherwise, it's an ammo hog. Also, if your not very careful, it is the ultimate grief machine. Good way to get weapons lock in just a few minutes.
I understand all of you, I would still love to have like a third firing mode shooting little balls of energy ammo (that the readiator uses :P) the balls would inflict alot of damage but have a slow rate of fire. :D
Know whats awesome?
Grabbing your HA weapon, and bullrushing down the hallway filled with radiator fields. You win almost every time, if tis just one or two guys.
Cauldron Borne
2004-09-30, 09:19 PM
know what's also awesome? firing your own Radiator balls down the hallways and watch as the guys at the other end TK each other because they think the other guy is doing it....fun.
Queensidecastle
2004-10-01, 02:23 PM
roflmao.
That used to be 10 times worse when you couldnt see the pain field
Madcow
2004-10-01, 08:30 PM
Great idea on the OF, that the Radiator (now that they've nerfed the grief on it) is the perfect anti-BFR tool. The BFR is so slow that you can radiate it enough to kill the pilot and jack it away. Good times.
Cauldron Borne
2004-10-02, 02:48 AM
flight varient = teh win....cannot wait for them to get out. I bet DFAs become a common tactic....
Lartnev
2004-10-02, 08:36 AM
I don't think it works on other BFRs :p
Cauldron Borne
2004-10-02, 08:21 PM
you can jump off the edge of Searhus' crator into one of the interior bases.....
2Seksy4MyModem
2004-10-03, 12:47 AM
The radiator owns bfrs now. Goes straight through shields and damages the drivers hp directly. I didn't realize why this guy was shooting me at all until I had 24hp left. Worked so well that I recerted AV for SA on the test, might do it for my main as well.
Mango
2004-10-03, 01:01 AM
Adv Regen implant would counter that in a bfr
2Seksy4MyModem
2004-10-03, 01:14 AM
heh, that beats my favorite thats just full of meds
XxXAceFaceXxX
2004-10-03, 01:22 AM
Actually the Radiator's one use has been found, AGAINST BRFs IN THE CAVES. It never fails, the pilots run away cause it hurts them and not their bfr!
Electrofreak
2004-10-03, 01:23 AM
Radiator kicks ass vs BFRs now, even flight variants given time. I was caming a base roof with a Peregrine Flight and 2 Hammers, and kept gettin nailed by radiator clouds. You can jump out of the clouds sure, but they became clever after a while and began shooting the clouds at my landing site. Definately put on some hurt. My BFR Pilot setup now has 6 medpacks because of the Radiator.
hazzer2007
2004-10-03, 09:58 AM
Yer, good weapon on troops, but as a BFR pilot, i hate it. We have to run as we can't risk having to run for one of my empires buildings to get our bfr back before someone hacks it or having to wait 45 min to get anoher one.
It happened last night on the test server, my squad was just sitting around in the caven, taking out random troops as the TR and VS were hacking/killing each other in the caves. So we parked our BFR's onto of a roof of a caven building and we all got tells saying move your we will shoot you, a sec after the tell, we got corned by Radiator fire and had to jump to save our BFR's.
Lonehunter
2004-10-03, 10:03 AM
How many times is this story goin to End? I see a prequel comin.
Remember when there were no AT weapons? Yeah, the thumper was best for this situation.
Baneblade
2004-10-03, 06:07 PM
Remember when there were no AT weapons? Yeah, the thumper was best for this situation.
Yeah, the days when PS was best.
Cauldron Borne
2004-10-04, 12:57 AM
I wish we could go back to the days right after they introduced the lib and the SG. but keep the TR maxes like they are now....and then fix the bugs.....
I miss Konreid
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