The Old Crew

[Cauldron Borne]

Hey all ya'll at PSU! Ok, a question for the veterans:
Do you remember the Digital Marines? One of the first Terran Republic outfits on emerald, and, at one time, the largest?

If so, were you in it? Do you know someone who is? If you answered yes to any of these questions, this post may interest you. For the new kids, this is sort of a history lesson, for the old guys this is a walk down memory lane:

I'm trying to set up a one night reunion of the guys from the Digital Marines. A night of massive ownage, and war stories. If you were ever a member, you're invited. I got a hold of some of the top notch guys, and even have a few officers from the group. They're all for it.

I don't hav a date, yet, but I will post one when I figure out how popular this will be.

SO: A shout out to all the DiM vets, and on a side note all the guys who remember the Emerald Alliance. yes....we owned back in the day...when i get my hands on IIIHomieIII...ima kick his ass :p

[Black]

I remember them but never was in the outfit.

Was actually wondering what happend to them a while back

[Queensidecastle]

All I remember about them was when they raided a PSU community gathering, griefing all the people trying to attend

[Lonehunter]

All I remember about them was when they raided a PSU community gathering, griefing all the people trying to attend
Yeah why don't you say all the info? Everyone wanted to hold hands and jump off the Cery bridge, Digital Marines heard about it and saw the opportunity for some kills, so we tested the new Liberator. Everyone jumped off anyway, or got bombed.

[Incompetent]

Yes, like the bunch of useless trolls that the Digital Marines were.

[Lonehunter]

Yes, like the bunch of useless trolls that the Digital Marines were.
What exactly are you agreeing to?
Why do you call them trolls?
Please give a reason for your opinion being important.

[Cauldron Borne]

Yes, like the bunch of useless trolls that the Digital Marines were.
way to go hypocrite...if I wanted an assinine remark, I would have went to the OF. Where were YOU when DiM helped creat what little organization TR-E has today?

as for what happened to them:
A lot of them went to SW:G, especially the leadership, so the rest of us went are own ways, and a bunch of us went to LiquidForce...where less than 80 of us managed to hit top 20 charts CONTINUOUSLY for four months...

so yeah, now that I have delt with the guy with the assinine remarks, does anyone know of any former DiM members, or were, themselves, DiM members?

[Hezzy]

Please give a reason for your opinion being important.

CDL.
Senior PSU Member.

[Sentrosi]

Just because Incompetent is from CDL and has been around here since PSU was born does not grant him some sort of exaulted status around here. He stated an opinion, Cauldron stated his. Can't you (Hezzy) just read the post and carry on without whipping out some crackback?

Seriously people.

[Firefly]

way to go hypocrite...if I wanted an assinine remark, I would have went to the OF. Where were YOU when DiM helped creat what little organization TR-E has today?
Not to piss in your cheerios, but if you're talking about the Emerald Alliance, I believe record has it that I founded the Emerald Alliance along with a guy named =NCG=BigBro after the AGO collapsed following retail - DragonWolves can back me up on that, they started the AGO and my outfit was a member, along with C22, 42nd Fire Ants, NCG, and a few other outfits.

DiM came into the Emerald Alliance long after it had been running - when I took an LOA from Planetside, Emerald Alliance had 40 outfits. The level of organization that they created is what ruined the EA (breaking up manpower according to certs, under a leadership that appeared to be exclusively Digital Marines) and also ruined its reputation (because the bridge bombing put a black mark against the entire alliance), and that's why we renamed it from EA to ULTRA.

But if I misinterpreted your comment, please explain to me then what the little organization that TR-E has, that DiM was and/or is responsible for.

[321]

Bridge jump.

[Lonehunter]

I don't know why you think DiM was the complete reason EA fell Firefly, hey if the other outfits didn't like it then why didn't they say anything and vote us out? They liked what we did, and when we did it, they just seemed to not have a public opinion anymore.

[Firefly]

I don't know why you think DiM was the complete reason EA fell
I didn't ever say they were the complete reason. The decisions that Homie made were what caused the Emerald Alliance to fall apart. And the reason I "think" this is as follows.

When I returned from a deployment and logged in, I volunteered to take charge again after seeing virtually no coordination. The forums were empty, the voice server was used by one outfit, and the front page of the website hadn't been updated in a long time. The so-called "field command structure" listing showed all DiM officers. I asked everyone that I came into contact with what their reasons were for leaving. Almost unanimously, I was told "The current set-up and the current leadership". I was told by nearly everyone I talked to that Homie's leadership style was more of a dictatorship. A few people whom I asked didn't say this, but these were only a few. When I started looking for outfits to ally with, I was told (before I could even explain the new version) by quite a few people that their outfits would not be "broken up" during operations and their "troops will not be subjected to second-rate leadership", among other things. This is in direct reference to the field command structure.

When I attempted to explain that the alliance was there to work for the good of Emerald TR, I was told "Is that why you bombed the community gathering bridge jump?" That single event was such huge negative publicity. It was at the recommendation of an outside party, DDBQ of Enforcers, during an alliance meeting, that we completely scrapped the Emerald Alliance altogether and revamped it as its current version - because everything associated with that alliance had turned into garbage, due to those two events.

So - it wasn't DiM as the complete reason - it was decisions made by the senior command of the alliance. Which happened to be almost exclusively DiM.

And let me say this - I have nothing against Homie or DiM. I fought with them on occasion, and I was impressed. But that has nothing to do with the way the alliance was led.

[Lonehunter]

Once again, every member of that council voted Homie as overall leader, except one.
Everyone of those people never spoke to have a problem.
Hundreads of people from ULTRA outfits told us we did a great job after that bombing, but when we started getting heat, they just seemed to not have an opinion any more.

Firefly I'll send you PMs to discuss the rest.

[Firefly]

I dunno what everyone else's problem was, but I'm pretty renowned for speaking my mind. Rest assured we won't have any of THAT happening.

[Hamma]

I remember them.

Lets tone it down people, spread the :love:

[Firefly]

I remember them.
I remember when you doused me with plasma during the AGO's first operation (planned and run by BWC's XO at the time, Kazba).

[Hamma]

My bad :lol:

[Cauldron Borne]

my fault Firefly, I wrote that wrong...happens with sleep deprivation....

Let me reiterate:
When I joined DiM, Homie had JUST been elected leader of EA. Nearly unanimously, apparently. for a LONG time, the situation ran just as you discribed it was like before you went on leave. We co-ordinated, people were happy, and I never heard a disgruntled word from anyone about EA or the internal goings on...no-one except the NC and VS who didn't apprieciate how much butt we were kicking.

THEN one of the guys in DiM, Lex, brought about an interesting topic on his Conspiracy website. It was the Cery Bridge Jump. Interestingly enough this jump was planned shortly after the Liberator and Skyguard came out. Someone in DiM, who's name is lost to my memory, thought up the brilliant plan of crashing the party, as it were. The rest of EA learned about this and jumped, yes, JUMPED at the idea. It was FULLY endorsed by EVERYONE in the EA. If someone DID object, they didn't do it out in the open, and so we never knew about it. We essentially TOLD the planners of this event that we'd be waiting for them, and many of the other TR not in the alliance gave similar promises.

So the Ceryshen Bridge Jump Massacre happens. The people who actually got into the fighting enjoyed it, but there were people that like to gripe. They griped loudly. VERY loudly. Suddenly all those people who supported and enjoyed the event...shut up. No-one backed up the Digital Marines or A99, or any of the other three outfits involved. All that was there was the gripers. There were enough gripers and not enough supporters that it made us out to be horrible game-destroying people. Those gripers created the black mark, and because of the lack of follow up support by people who originally were all for the idea, the mark stuck.

So yes, DiM was responcible for much of the advancement of the alliance system on Emerald. We brought, with help from other outfits, this server together. A few loud people, and a lot of quiet ones, stopped that. So while you, Firefly, built EA up, and while DiM and a few others continued it on, eventually it was TR that destroyed it. All the bringing together that you and, later, DiM worked hard to do, was brought down and knocked out from under them, thanks to a small minority of complainers, and a vast majority of people who just sat quietly, and idly, by watching the distuction of what was possibly the best thing TR had going for them.


Sorry for the long post, just thought it needed to be said.

[BUGGER]

When you guys say bridge jump, do you mean the one where everyone was begging Miir to film it for like a Captain Carnage(s) movie?



....Did you guys actually jump?



And if you want to remember an outfit, remember TGIF on Markov, once #2 on the leaderboards until late October, now somewhere back there. Ha now I'm with D2A.....and ha, i haven't played PS really since.....the beginning of battle islands.....i think i'ma gonna fire up Ps again (lol i'm payed 13 bucks for a month i barely even played)

[Ivan]

I remember them but never was in the outfit.

Was actually wondering what happend to them a while back
Same here. I sort of forgot about them. Saw less and less, then forgot. Sort of "Out of sight, out of mind" kind of thing.