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diluted
2003-02-10, 09:04 PM
vicchio got me thinking about SWG and to me, it will def swamp many many games even PS. it is just so giant i dont even know where to start with it. i honestly am not sure what to do =\


btw nooooo flaaaaaaames

Duritz
2003-02-10, 09:13 PM
Well, I dunno. If they let it keep going like it is, when it is FINALLY released it will REALLY suck. I mean, come on, it looked ten times better just back in December.

Flameseeker
2003-02-10, 09:16 PM
I have decided not to get it, and I am a reasonably big SW fan. PS and WoW are way better than it. It's definitely going to be exploited a lot. Being a bounty hunter will be a ton of fun when the guy that hired you kills you after you kill the bounty. Also, 1000s of Dark Jedi will be roaming around, killing everything. I think that there is no way it can be balanced. PS is balanced very nicely.

Fire_Monkey
2003-02-10, 09:17 PM
Hmm, I like RPG's, RTS's, And most of all FPS's, yet I wasn't at all interested in SWG when I found PS. I think that PS will keep multi-genre gamers to the FPS side, where SWG will only attract hardcore RPGers.

txMaddog
2003-02-10, 09:19 PM
SWG just say NO!!

PS all the way!!

Vanu 4 Life!!

Duritz
2003-02-10, 09:25 PM
Actually Flame, Dark Jedi are out completely.

Fire_Monkey
2003-02-10, 09:26 PM
omfg swg just keeps getting worse

SGDreyton
2003-02-10, 09:56 PM
I can hear the SWG feature axe fall almost every day now.

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-10, 09:59 PM
Indeed :brow:

SWG Dev Team -

"We have recently decided to take out the Star Wars aspect of the game completely. We will be replacing all of the SW characters with popular characters from your favorite Disney cartoons."

Fire_Monkey
2003-02-10, 10:01 PM
LOL!!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

ABRAXAAS
2003-02-10, 10:05 PM
I love that they said, were taking out some of my favorite features to make it more fun, soon all that will be left is a fighting engine and a open wasteland they can change the name to
"streetfighter ex+aswgmmorpgx2 part 9"

Denali
2003-02-10, 10:20 PM
I've read quite a bit about SWG myself, and it could end up being hugely cool. From what I read, the way Jedi are going to be done there is no way there are going to be a billion dark jedi wandering around. And as far as it being a "fighting engine," the game is designed so that you never have to engage in combat once if you don't want to, alot of crafters plan on never picking up a blaster. I think SWG will be a nice change from the constant combat of PS, I'll probably play both. And I never read that they nixxed dark jedi??

SGDreyton
2003-02-10, 10:23 PM
Denali, There won't be tons of dark jedi because there WILL BE NO DARK JEDI. That feature got pulled.

Fire_Monkey
2003-02-10, 10:26 PM
That sucks major ass, still i might look in to swg, im not even psyched about it though. PS gets me so psyched, AHHHHH I need to pick up a bolt driver and start sniping, AHHH must have PS....jesus

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-10, 10:27 PM
They nixed the Dark Jedi.

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/starwars/Forum3/HTML/100801.html

MrVicchio
2003-02-10, 10:29 PM
Things no LONGER IN SWG or changed:

Player Cities- What will politicians do now?

DarkJedi

Jedi are PERMA DEATH chars, and they WILL NOT BE YOUR MAINS

PvP combat is gone

Vehicels are out

Lightsabers had thier sound changed to that of a kid sucking a straw to save on costs..

Fire_Monkey
2003-02-10, 10:30 PM
Now i must say that is fucking funny

Kyonye
2003-02-10, 10:31 PM
looks like they're just trying to kill the game instead of make it better.

Denali
2003-02-10, 10:44 PM
Jedi would be soooo hard to balance as player-characters, I'm kind of surprised they haven't nixxed all jedi. Losing vehicles is pretty lame, I can imagine walking across the deserts of tatooine..and walking, and walking and walking....are you sure about PVP???? Kind of strange to get rid of it, going to lose a huge number of people...how can you fight a civil war with no PVP?????

MrVicchio
2003-02-10, 10:47 PM
Blame the fall of SWG on one forum poster.. Caella. She was the most vocal of the PvE crowd, and Raph Koster made her a star. She and others like her got into the first round of beta and have been dictating the dircetion of the game. I have a persnal animosity towards her.

SpaceDrake
2003-02-10, 10:57 PM
Oh god. I actually think I know her from Jumpgate. She sort of nerfed PvP there too. I think she only lives to try and kill PvP everywhere. From the sound of it PlanetSide is going to become the only decent MMOG released this year. There's no way SWG will be a threat to any game, especially in the long run.

The lightsaber thing is just cheap, though. Why the fuck did they change it? Certainly they didn't pay any fees or anything because it's a fucking LucasArts game? (In part)

Arshune
2003-02-10, 11:04 PM
SWG has huge potential, but it definitely won't live up to it at release, in fact, probably not even until several months after release. But they didn't "nix" dark jedi, they just postponed them. They said it would take a few months to become a jedi anyway, so its not that big a deal. I still hate the direction they took that game in though. Star Wars RPG...god, wtf. If they made a game like Planetside set in the Star Wars universe...THEN they'd have something.

MrVulcan
2003-02-10, 11:06 PM
My once a year evil rant about something bad:

A Long time ago, I was thinking of getting SWG, i mean back i the day, it did sound very sweet! but that was until the people in charge of SWG went out of their way to make it a great game for all of us:

Yep, SWG's way of making people happy:
---------------------------
"What we Saved�"

"Pets/Droids"
(no one fights in SW, so go feed your dog)

"making the professions more fun"
(so you can be in pain in RL, and in VR!)
--------------------------
"What we decided to get rid of so no one will buy our game..."
(ok, not a real quote, but it should be)

"Dark Jedi"
(no one wants to be anything but pure good, so there is no reason to put in a sweet PvP char like this...)

"Player Vehicles"
(yep, since everyone is sooo nice and pretty now that there are no dark jedis, there is no reason to pollute the millions of planets with a vehicle!)

"PVP": There is no more Fighting, No one wants to get hurt, so you are now only going to hunt swamp rats. No jedi- attacks, etc, No SW fan likes those.... Yep, no one wants to fight in SW!
---------------------------
"Now keep in mind that we added Much more content than we originally intended"

MrVulcan
2003-02-10, 11:08 PM
Now on the flip side, the people in charge of PS are great!
They have created a major PvP game, have many ways to play, have many sweet features, etc, and seem to care about what the community thinks. I just want to say THANK YOU to everyone behind the greatness that will be PS!!! I for one have nothing bad to say about this sweet game!! and this game will be sweet!!!

P.S.

just double posted since I want to make it very clear that:

SWG = bad
PS = SWEET!!!

Arshune
2003-02-10, 11:10 PM
I can think of a complaint...flight model not complex enough (according to available information). But that's pretty minor considering the tons of other content they're trying to pack in the game...I'm worried it could overflow.

Fire_Monkey
2003-02-10, 11:29 PM
It'll all work itself out in beta, have no worries lads.

SpaceDrake
2003-02-10, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
It'll all work itself out in beta, have no worries lads.

Most bugs and exploits, certainly...

I must agree with Arshune, though. The Tribes 2 flight model wasn't exactly the most beautiful thing in the world. It was functional, but the vehicles (especially the flyers) were a pain the ass to drive. That probably can't be worked out in beta. But we'll see.

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-10, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by MrVicchio
Blame the fall of SWG on one forum poster.. Caella. She was the most vocal of the PvE crowd, and Raph Koster made her a star. She and others like her got into the first round of beta and have been dictating the dircetion of the game. I have a persnal animosity towards her.

Where can I find this girl so I can stab her in the face :flamemad:

Deadlock
2003-02-10, 11:59 PM
:sniper: :father:


accept progress, pick up a friggin' gun

MrVicchio
2003-02-11, 12:02 AM
If you wish to find Caella, go post asking about her on the SWG Offical Forums. I used to post there as Billard. She has a phobia of ANY PvP interaction in a game, and I despise what SWG has become.