View Full Version : [First Impressions] BFR
Rbstr
2004-10-18, 10:44 PM
So what do you guys think of the BFR's as they are in live right now, gimped and eveyware?
I for one think it was kinda fun untill i got OSed, i will not pass judgment on BFR ballence untill things stabilize though.
mechaman
2004-10-18, 10:57 PM
I never got a chance to shoot anything with my BFR :( Got locked out of my empries primary continent and there was no resistance on the secondary. The malfunctioning crap got annoying but otherwise I think they are cool.
EarlyDawn
2004-10-18, 11:01 PM
What kind of malfunctions happen?
Rbstr
2004-10-18, 11:30 PM
weapons lose relode/refire time, stop working, ammo gets destroyed, shields work less, sensors don't works aswell, eveything that jammers can do and more
Warborn
2004-10-19, 12:26 AM
Can't say until they actually take certs. They're everywhere right now because they're free. Once they cost what they normally do we'll see how it goes.
Queensidecastle
2004-10-19, 12:34 AM
Yeah it is really impossible to tell really. I know I was blown up very very easily. One battlefield was solid BFRs. The other battlefield was solid cloakers and mosquitos. I'm serious. 10 mossys and 5 cloakers. I could do nothing but die. I had a buddy with me that even had a burster but he couldnt stop the OS from a cloaker. Once it settles down I think BFRs will have thier place
CassH
2004-10-19, 12:51 AM
Yes i hope everyone stops saying "o god im a atention wanting litle kid i hate the BFRs im going to leave if you dont get rid of them, whine whine whine do what i want not anyone else"
The same stuff was said when the skyguard came all pilots said that it will now be impossible but it died down and nobody cares anymore the same will happen with BFRs.
and the thing i hated was withing the first 5 mins of me haveing one i had a fatal malfunction and my BFR exploded without any Nmes on the cont.
martyr
2004-10-19, 01:06 AM
that's what you get for not imprinting.
blame the NC.
har
CassH
2004-10-19, 01:32 AM
Yea if it where up to the Vanu Sov it would have been done properly. but no those freedom fighters had to make them so mine went boom 5 mins after getting it.
Warborn
2004-10-19, 02:06 AM
Oh, and I will say, once BFRs aren't out en masse, they won't be too big a problem I think. They're really pretty vulnerable in few numbers. Definitely not a replacement for MBTs, that's for sure.
Lonehunter
2004-10-19, 02:36 AM
As of right now it's kind of a pain to operate one, every few seconds you're losing accuracy, reload time, AMMO!
NightWalker XI
2004-10-19, 02:38 AM
How about some screenshots guys? I wanna see u or others in BFR's
hazzer2007
2004-10-19, 08:13 AM
/ v v e
Roswell34
2004-10-19, 10:07 AM
I want to see how the VS BFR runs.
Red October
2004-10-19, 11:00 AM
Big, Slow Lumbering Giants. The Malfunction stuff was driving me crazy. But I do like the ability to customize these things.
My first run was less than spectacular (that or the NC need a nerf...LOL). The second time around, I kind of got the hang of it better and was really holding my own. Whailing like hell on the VS BFR's on Bel last night. Problem is, I couldn't finish them off, they kept running away, and since the Colossus can't run or I just never figured out how to do it. There not too hard to repair, just leave the battle to a safe area, get out and use that engineer cert. However, in a huge push by the enemy, leaving the battle is kind of hard to do. Eventually enough gang banged me and kaboom!
Fighting them as a cloaker (yeah that sounds smart)...
Son of a Bitch these things take a long time to hack. I think I could have hacked 5 tanks by the time I was halfway on the BFR. Never did finish hacking one, usually the owner or someone else came by and I either had to cancel the hack or I got killed.
As for attacking them, well obviously the AMP or Repeater are pretty much useless. Mines seem to do alright. But my question is, what do Jammer grenades do to these things? Because everytime I threw one, I got a message in my chat box that said "You hit the BFR with EMP blast" or something similar to that. My guess is, I'm messing up its systems...can't be sure since no one ever Jammered me. Anyone?
Frag and Plasma didn't seem to do much to them. But as a cloaker, I did notice that I wasn't noticed. Got up close and personal with them, which is why I always was able to lay a mine or toss jammers on them with out much effort.
With a little more organization (similar to a max crash) and troop support, these things can be devestating. But as of right now, I'm not going to cert with my main toon, but I will with another. Plus, I noticed one distinct disadvantage. A tower surrounded by BFR's, but only a few VS inside. No one in thier BFR would get out to help take the tower. Kind of a small problem there.
hazzer2007
2004-10-19, 11:32 AM
"You hit the BFR with EMP blast" or something similar to that. My guess is, I'm messing up its systems...can't be sure since no one ever Jammered me. Anyone?
Depend on where you hit them. It normaly lowers fire rate or shuts down run mode, lowers sheild regen rate, etc
mechaman
2004-10-19, 12:59 PM
Problem is, I couldn't finish them off, they kept running away, and since the Colossus can't run or I just never figured out how to do it.
Auto run for the BFRs is "~"
Queensidecastle
2004-10-19, 02:33 PM
It is really annoying that BFRs cant share a keymap. I want my jumpjets to be my right mouse button, but if I do that, no weapon mode switching on my grunts. I want my run mode for infantry, MAX, and BFRs to be the delete key on the keypad. I want to map runmode once and work for items that use runmode.
Hopefully they will fix this at some point
DeepStrikeck
2004-10-19, 03:23 PM
Shift+q also works for engaging run mode
FatalLight
2004-10-19, 04:48 PM
All I have to say is meh... Im not payin 5 certs for 'em
Hamorad
2004-10-19, 05:33 PM
well, i think nc's is best so far. I can't say much because when i played with my tr one some suppressor n00b managed to empty my entire inventory, and my vs got totally pwned by prowlers. NC's hammer is way overpowered though... takes 2 hits to kill a rexo grunt at a really long range
Boomer
2004-10-19, 05:50 PM
the Hammer is a Jackhammer on Crack, Roids, Pot, Roids, And Roids. I shot an Agile at full health once, and he died, two hits on a Rexo. And, the NC ant tank weapon Owns when you get inside the enemy BFR shields, as it has no splash damage and you dont damage yourself. :)
ok, here is my whole analysis of the BFRs right now.
NC BFRS:
Hammer: Jackhammer on Drugs
Anti Tank: <3 for the no splash damage and it is a projectile with no arc. This can be good and bad, but for me it is good. Pretty Inaccurate at long ranges though, but if you get inside a BFRs shields with it, it is dead in less than 30 seconds.
Sparrow: If you manage to not get the "Aircraft can no longer be tracked" Warning, then these just plain own. If you are in the aircraft being shot, once your armor starts going down you are dead.
TR BFRs:
Chaingun: Ownage. Long range, deadly, small COF. Cycler on drugs with 2x the ROF of the MCG.
Anti Tank: Meh. Splash damage, arc. more of an AI weapons with AV capabilities to me. Havent used it much though, but when i was attacted by it, It took 20 shells to lower my shields to half.
Burster: I am good with these, and farm the Mossies and Reavers trying to hit me. ph34r meh.
VS BFRs:
Lazers: and 2nd place goes to this under the Hammer. It has long range, and dual of these kill a Rexo in 1.4 seconds (I timed it.). You hear these, run.
Anti Tank: Good. All around good weapon. AV gun with AI capabilities.
Starfire: Havent Tried it on other air, but to me, it is only good when you have Dual. ROF is slow, Damage is high, but clip is small. But, if the auto aim is as good as the Starfire, this will get You EXP quick (if you dont break down.)
ok.. thats my opinion. As for general BFRs, I hate the errors and problems. My BFR got a message right when I crouched to face 2 TR bfrs that said "System Failure, blah blah blah you are in deep shit"
Half my health went down, and my shield failed. The Enemy BFRs fired about 5 times and I became my own sun with its own orbiting debris.
KamiGaijin
2004-10-19, 09:43 PM
The most glaringly obvious thing I noticed yesterday:
Strategy Died
I was on for 8 hours yesterday (TR, Markov) and there was only 1 global message to dircet the masses. And it was a horrible strategic decision to boot. I'm not going to point fingers, but it said "Attack ______ next because that's where everyone is".
Is this the best strategy we can come up with? When I finally left _____ because there had been no progress (Yes, to take a base you must actually GET OUT THE BFR and go indoors); I went and locked a continent solo. No XP of coarse because only 2 guys came to resist.
And when I went to the Sanc and broadcast that 2 guys are draining one of our bases and see if ne1 wants to assist me in stopping this...well guess how many came to assist.
I'm just glad this event is only for a short period of time, then I predict BFRs will become as rare as a fully manned prowler because when alone they really are easy to take down.
I can't wait till BFRs become like Sand Giants. As soon as someone sees one, they'll brodcast "SG up at _____" and a team will quickly arrive and jump on it. Pwned.
And to everybody complaining: Just a game. Yes I too got pwnt by multiple BFRs every time I walked out a door. Hell, I enjoyed it...sorta. But I say again:
You must get out the BFR and go indoors if you want your empire to make any progress.
Hamma
2004-10-19, 09:54 PM
I think they are an interesting addition to the game. However this week there are just too many of them, it makes the game not as fun unless you get in a BFR. I think after this whole event is over th9ings will settle and get back to normal again for the most part. That's what I look forward to most :p
WritheNC
2004-10-20, 02:21 AM
I like it, being a pilot half the time.
Everyone is so preoccupied on taking out the BFR I farmed tons of infantry last night.
Also, BFR's are not overpowered. They can get owned easily without support. Without infantry, other vehicles, or aircraft to keep jammers/ce away from them, they're cake. I like that. Promotes teamwork both ways to protect/destroy a BFR.
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