View Full Version : [Poll] Battle of the BFRs, who will win?
CMRath
2004-10-19, 09:44 AM
So, what do you think guys?
I say the NC one will, it could probably take the other two at once :-/
Lartnev
2004-10-19, 09:50 AM
Completely depends on the situation :)
Warborn
2004-10-19, 10:42 AM
So, what, they're standing at very close range, not moving, just holding down the fire button?
hazzer2007
2004-10-19, 11:33 AM
1 v 1, nc will win, but with barly any amrour left. But 2 v 1, nc will loss.
Queensidecastle
2004-10-19, 11:56 AM
It all depends on what weapons you have equipped. If you dont have weapons suitable for BFR vs BFR combat, you will most certainly lose to one that does. The downside is that if you go out with say the shieldsucker and AV your gonna get owned by aircraft and grunts. If you take an AA and AI(or shieldsucker) your gonna get owned by everyone in thier tank waiting for thier BFR timer to expire
Its a pretty good rock/paper/scissors
NightWalker XI
2004-10-19, 12:49 PM
VS never win :'(
Lonehunter
2004-10-19, 03:36 PM
Considering a BFR can not penetrate another BFR's shield, it would be a long ass battle. But let's say neither one has shields, both have AV weaponry, both have equal skill, Colossus all the way. Because it has the Superioir armor.
Warborn
2004-10-19, 04:03 PM
Considering a BFR can not penetrate another BFR's shield, it would be a long ass battle. But let's say neither one has shields, both have AV weaponry, both have equal skill, Colossus all the way. Because it has the Superioir armor.
That's assuming all the AV weapons are equal. I don't believe that's the case.
Lonehunter
2004-10-19, 04:23 PM
That's assuming all the AV weapons are equal. I don't believe that's the case.
You could be right.
But then let's look at the factor of SOE balance
Collossus = Heavy Armor/weak weapons
Enemy BFR = Weak Armor/Heavy Weapons
This is where it depends on individual skill
CMRath
2004-10-19, 10:13 PM
heh, in a dual AV situation (would be suicidal to go 1v1 without dual av)
I've tested a dual AV Peringrine vs a dual AV aphelion, close range (optimum for both BFRs), the aphelion crouching, the peringrine standing, both holding down the fire button. The peringrine wins, the aphelion never penetrates the sheilds. When the Aphelion tries to dodge and the peringrine stands still, the peringrine kills it even faster.
Can't say anything about the colosus, only stole one, and it got OS'd about 20 seconds later :-/
KamiGaijin
2004-10-20, 01:19 AM
I chose TR Collosus all the way. Why? Here goes (putting on flame retardent armor):
1. Fights are never 1-vs-1, and since all TR weapons are designed to require teamwork; most of the TR players have either realized this and work better together with those around us or changed sides for the solo-orriented NC hippes and/or overpowered but undermanned VS techno-freaks.
2. TR propeganda say's we're #1. Therefore we must be #1.
Velkator
2004-10-20, 08:32 AM
I think the Aphelion would have beaten the Colossus, cause of better movement.
Against the Peregrine I dunno
That's my opinion, but I haven't tried any of them though :D
Warborn
2004-10-20, 03:34 PM
You could be right.
But then let's look at the factor of SOE balance
Collossus = Heavy Armor/weak weapons
Enemy BFR = Weak Armor/Heavy Weapons
This is where it depends on individual skill
From what I've read, the VS/NC don't have more powerful weapons, they're just easy to use. Our AV guns are the strongest, but they have a fire arc, so they take skill to aim with even against a stationary target. VS and NC have no fire arc for their AV guns, but they're weaker because of it.
So at close range, a Colossus should beat an Aphelion and maybe a Peregrine, but the Peregrine's AV guns are at their peak up close, having damage degredation over range, so I dunno who'd win.
Lonehunter
2004-10-20, 05:19 PM
In the past few days I've realized that two infantry are a greater threat to a BFR then an enemy BFR.
Queensidecastle
2004-10-20, 05:34 PM
I would agree as long as the BFR doesnt have AI guns equipped. I shred grunts even with 1 AI gun. The best thing is for BFRs to go out in pairs each backing up the other one. have one with AA and AV and other with AI and perhaps another AI or an AV
SniperDude
2004-10-21, 08:25 AM
I didn't vote on any because I think they are all pretty well balanced. And, as stated a few times above, the outcome of a BFR battle is very situational. Unless there was a list of EVERY possible situation, you really can't say who the best is right overall yet.
The Aphelion does have a definate advantage over the other two in open field, multi-BFR battles. An individual Aphelion that takes too much damage (shileds below 1/4) can run away to saftey and can't be chased. Even worse the other way, you can't outrun them, but they can outrun you, bullshit IMO. If they are gunna be so much faster than the other two, lessen their armor.
NightWalker XI
2004-10-21, 09:23 AM
After playing more today I have to say that to me, the most feared BFR is the Terran one, its really powerfull if used right, I play NC and we had like 10 BFR's attacking a base and TR had about 5 defending and they still kepot us at bay..it was impressive
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