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Mag-Mower
2004-10-23, 11:10 PM
I dont get why it is such a big deal... Yea, its a good game, but its not that great, here is why i think so:
6 weapons - Most games now have atleast 10+
can only have 2 weapons inventory - Realistic? yes. fun (atleast to me)? No.
4 vehicles - i guess thats alright
5 Creatures / beasts - There were more enemis in 007:NF
3 enviroments, Tropical, Snowy, and Indoors - The beach was nice, Snow gets bland and boring, all the indoor enviroments look the same
Story - Meh?
No bots - COME ON! Timspliters, 007:NF, even frickin TFC have bots
Graphics - Yes, they were alright (looked amazing, not much enviroments to show this off in)
12 missions - meh... i have seen more, but this is average
Mission varriety - it was ok, but run n' gun games get boring fast
Level size - Yea... it is huge, and i liked that

why cant i find this game so much fun, like the rest of the world, if i were to grade it, it would get a 7.0.

martyr
2004-10-23, 11:14 PM
Story - Meh?
i think i've found the problem.

the halo story is actually much larger than the game (see: marathon)
pretty good scifi fiction goin on there.

and multiplayer... sure, it's a lot like what you're used to... because you have a PC

Giovanni
2004-10-23, 11:15 PM
Different games attract different persons, it's not because alot of folks liked it that you have to like it and anyone that says the contrary is a total idiot in my book. I personally like FPS's and RPG's whilst Aztec likes Jesus and FPS's, different person, different tastes! :)

Mag-Mower
2004-10-23, 11:16 PM
what? the story wasnt very intriguing... go to big ring, kill aliens, be a fool and listen to a floating orb, floating orb is not to be truted (but no... camptain had to follow the freak), disable halos wepon... meh

Setari
2004-10-23, 11:16 PM
Different games attract different persons, it's not because alot of folks liked it that you have to like it and anyone that says the contrary is a total idiot in my book. I personally like FPS's and RPG's whilst Aztec likes Jesus and FPS's, different person, different tastes! :)
:lol: :lol:

i loved halo..not fanatically but definitely loved it

Jaged
2004-10-23, 11:24 PM
I dont get why it is such a big deal... Yea, its a good game, but its not that great, here is why i think so:
6 weapons - Most games now have atleast 10+
can only have 2 weapons inventory - Realistic? yes. fun (atleast to me)? No.
4 vehicles - i guess thats alright
5 Creatures / beasts - There were more enemis in 007:NF
3 enviroments, Tropical, Snowy, and Indoors - The beach was nice, Snow gets bland and boring, all the indoor enviroments look the same
Story - Meh?
No bots - COME ON! Timspliters, 007:NF, even frickin TFC have bots
Graphics - Yes, they were alright (looked amazing, not much enviroments to show this off in)
12 missions - meh... i have seen more, but this is average
Mission varriety - it was ok, but run n' gun games get boring fast
Level size - Yea... it is huge, and i liked that

why cant i find this game so much fun, like the rest of the world, if i were to grade it, it would get a 7.0.
Did you play the PC or Xbox version. Maybe you are like me. I hated the PC version, but when I got my xbox and a copy of halo for it, I fell in love. Sure looking at pure stats the game is not that impressive. But something about this game is just really fun for alot of people, myself included.

AztecWarrior
2004-10-23, 11:28 PM
The game came out a few years ago. Compare it with older games.

Mag-Mower
2004-10-23, 11:35 PM
The game came out a few years ago. Compare it with older games.
ok: TFC

Halo has:
Guns - 6
Multiplay - XBconnect only
Vehicles - 4
Aliens - 'nuff said
Replayability - You can play forever along the same story / scenario!

TFC has:
Guns - Lots
Multiplay - All over the world and more than 4 people and there are bots
Trains - Yay!
9 classes - Lots: scout to sniper to HW
Replayability - you can play for ever!

Dharkbayne
2004-10-23, 11:38 PM
I dont get why it is such a big deal... Yea, its a good game, but its not that great, here is why i think so:
6 weapons - Most games now have atleast 10+
can only have 2 weapons inventory - Realistic? yes. fun (atleast to me)? No.
4 vehicles - i guess thats alright
5 Creatures / beasts - There were more enemis in 007:NF
3 enviroments, Tropical, Snowy, and Indoors - The beach was nice, Snow gets bland and boring, all the indoor enviroments look the same
Story - Meh?
No bots - COME ON! Timspliters, 007:NF, even frickin TFC have bots
Graphics - Yes, they were alright (looked amazing, not much enviroments to show this off in)
12 missions - meh... i have seen more, but this is average
Mission varriety - it was ok, but run n' gun games get boring fast
Level size - Yea... it is huge, and i liked that

why cant i find this game so much fun, like the rest of the world, if i were to grade it, it would get a 7.0.

You are not your fucking weapons.
You are not your fucking vehicles.
You are not your fucking enemies.
You are not your fucking enviroments.
You are not your fucking bots.
You are not your fucking graphics.
You are not your fucking missions.
You are not your fucking variety.
You are not your fucking level size.

Mag-Mower
2004-10-23, 11:41 PM
You are not your fucking weapons.
You are not your fucking vehicles.
You are not your fucking enemies.
You are not your fucking enviroments.
You are not your fucking bots.
You are not your fucking graphics.
You are not your fucking missions.
You are not your fucking variety.
You are not your fucking level size.
i know im not

Hezzy
2004-10-23, 11:45 PM
This thread sucks.

:doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh: :doh::doh::doh::doh:

Everay
2004-10-23, 11:54 PM
what martyr said, the story of halo, is great, not Honor Harrington great, but as close as a game will get till advent rising (military fiction wise at least), to fully understand/follow it, you must

A. Read books
B. Follow I love Bees (when you come down to it, the only thing complicated about the story is the website, go here http://members.cox.net/katy-w/axons.htm and read from chapter 1 to the current chapter, the story is not over yet, and there are parts not filled in yet because they are not made public until a certain amount of people have heard them on a payphone

and ill agree, not much was inovative about Halo, infact Gamespy went back and said it was their number 1 more over rated game, its not that the game sucks, its just that it does everything well, and when it comes down to it, in the video game world, doing everything good is alot better than being inovative and crappy.

Dharkbayne
2004-10-23, 11:54 PM
I am the all singing, all dancing, crap of the world.

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Octavian
2004-10-23, 11:56 PM
Oh and Mag, it had 10 levels. Only towards the end did the design start to become repetitive, but even I'm still finding new ways to kill the Covenant and have a good time. All this, after 2 years of playing it fanatically.

Gigabein
2004-10-24, 12:12 AM
I dont get why it is such a big deal...

It's the X-Box fanboy justification for paying way too much for a system with not a lot of good titles.

Derfud
2004-10-24, 12:23 AM
I'm sure there were more than six weapons. Lets count em out.

1 - Assault Rifle
2 - Shotgun
2 - Pistol
4 - Sniper Rifle
5 - Needler
6 - Covenant Automatic blue shootie thing
7 - Plasma pistol
8 - Rocket Launcher

Not to forget that the PC verson also included the:
9 - Flamethrower
10 - Plasma launchy thingy

Last but not least, you completely disregarded grenades, most likely because they do not occupy a seperate weapon slot. However, you likely would have counted them if they had:

11 - Plasma Grenades
12 - Explosive Grenades

So there you have it. Halo had more than 6 weapons, but it's not the weapons that made the game. I would have to agree on the story. Sure when you lookc back at it it may not seem all that amazingm but while you are playing it you are always on the brink of solving some mystery, and you are always pushing the story along.

Octavian
2004-10-24, 01:00 AM
Derf, you forgot the SPNKR too.

Mango
2004-10-24, 01:09 AM
:thumbsup:

AztecWarrior
2004-10-24, 01:11 AM
Ironically, my Mac-disciple friend simply adores Halo and is constantly drawing, with great precision, crap from Halo.

He claims Halo was originally going to be a Mac game.

Derfud
2004-10-24, 01:15 AM
I bet he also thinks that Bill Gates is really just Steve Jobs wearing a holographic powersuit.

AztecWarrior
2004-10-24, 01:16 AM
http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/07-30-04-games/occamsmonkey1.jpg
Got it?

Zodiac
2004-10-24, 01:17 AM
This thread sucks.

:doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh: :doh::doh::doh::doh:QFT.

Heavygain
2004-10-24, 01:37 AM
This thread sucks.

Terran Sniper
2004-10-24, 02:09 AM
I'm sure there were more than six weapons. Lets count em out.

1 - Assault Rifle
2 - Shotgun
2 - Pistol
4 - Sniper Rifle
5 - Needler
6 - Covenant Automatic blue shootie thing
7 - Plasma pistol
8 - Rocket Launcher

Not to forget that the PC verson also included the:
9 - Flamethrower
10 - Plasma launchy thingy

Last but not least, you completely disregarded grenades, most likely because they do not occupy a seperate weapon slot. However, you likely would have counted them if they had:

11 - Plasma Grenades
12 - Explosive Grenades

So there you have it. Halo had more than 6 weapons, but it's not the weapons that made the game. I would have to agree on the story. Sure when you lookc back at it it may not seem all that amazingm but while you are playing it you are always on the brink of solving some mystery, and you are always pushing the story along.
You forget:

Warthog body
Warthog Chaingun
Warthog passenger
Tank
Tank main cannon
Tank coaxle .50 mg
4 tank passengers
Ghost
Ghost plasma cannon
Banshee
Banshee main plasma cannon
Banshee Secondary weapon
Melee attack

Thats another 13 to add to your list. Also, never forget your Marine buddies.

Derfud
2004-10-24, 02:17 AM
I was talking handheld weapons. I think Mag-mower was also.

EineBeBoP
2004-10-24, 02:29 AM
Go read the fucking books. the game itself is alright, but has crap for story.

the books fucking pwnxtiadhsadjlkjfkdnsklcjvlkjdlkfjkl;s,.
seriously.
easily among my top 10 ever.

Mango
2004-10-24, 03:43 AM
8 - Rocket Launcher
:thumbsup:

JetRaiden
2004-10-24, 03:46 AM
Halo has been out for what, 2 years now? Why is this such a problem suddenly?

Octavian
2004-10-24, 04:21 AM
He claims Halo was originally going to be a Mac game.

Your friend is right. Why do you think they did a 13 minute movie at the '99 Macworld?

Sentrosi
2004-10-24, 04:55 AM
VVVV Best sig shamelessly copied from Halo VVVV

hazzer2007
2004-10-24, 06:02 AM
halo is great (only played the pc demo, but multiplayer is the best) because its more realistice than other shooter games, how can you fit 6-10 large rifels on your back????, + the graphics are amasing.

Can't wait for halo 2

Mag-Mower
2004-10-24, 08:07 AM
halo is great (only played the pc demo, but multiplayer is the best) because its more realistice than other shooter games, how can you fit 6-10 large rifels on your back????, Halo has been out for what, 2 years now? Why is this such a problem suddenly?
because i just got an XBox, and i decided to get halo because it was supposed to be sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooogood... and i found it nothing special, and i wanted to see if i was missing anything...

halo is great (only played the pc demo, but multiplayer is the best) because its more realistice than other shooter games, how can you fit 6-10 large rifels on your back????,
Remeber, i said i dont find that fun, i dont like super-hyper-to-the-max-realiticness... i play games for fun, not realisticness

Incompetent
2004-10-24, 10:06 AM
The only two-rifles system requires strategy, choice, sacrafice and thought. That is why it is better then the carry every weapon system most FPSes use, where you can just pull out whatever weapon is best at any given time.

Marsupilami
2004-10-24, 10:12 AM
No

Everay
2004-10-24, 10:37 AM
yes. and Halo was also going to be a RTS, originaly.

ObnoxiousFrog
2004-10-24, 12:41 PM
If it were possible for oneself to penetrate a game using some sort of phallic prompt in a display of lusty programming, I would do so to Marathon.

Jet'aime the arm-flamethrower.

Dharkbayne
2004-10-24, 12:50 PM
Derf, you forgot the SPNKR too.

That's the rocket launcher. :doh:


And the thing about Halo is it is very very polished. I rarely find myself playing and go "damn, I wish they had ***, or I wish they did ***** better, or "WTF, what the hell were they thinking when they made ****"

The only time I can think of is the entire Library level. It fucking sucks, it is possibly the worst level made for any game ever under any circuimstances, ever.


The 2 weapons thing is also for balance, too, since if you could carry a rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, and plasma pistol, you could be prepared for any confrontation perfectly.

It's the same reason you can't duel wield BRs or rocket launchers, or sniper rifles in the 2nd game. MC could easily do it (referring to the canon, and the fact you can flip a tank in the game).

Infernus
2004-10-24, 01:03 PM
That's the rocket launcher. :doh:


And the thing about Halo is it is very very polished. I rarely find myself playing and go "damn, I wish they had ***, or I wish they did ***** better, or "WTF, what the hell were they thinking when they made ****"

The only time I can think of is the entire Library level. It fucking sucks, it is possibly the worst level made for any game ever under any circuimstances, ever.


The 2 weapons thing is also for balance, too, since if you could carry a rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, and plasma pistol, you could be prepared for any confrontation perfectly.

It's the same reason you can't duel wield BRs or rocket launchers, or sniper rifles in the 2nd game. MC could easily do it (referring to the canon, and the fact you can flip a tank in the game).


I like the library level... /me rubs his shotgun

ObnoxiousFrog
2004-10-24, 01:03 PM
The rocket launcher in Marathon and the rocket launcher in Halo are the exact same thing to a T. I can't make the comparison with anything else, but the fact that they are an ongoing story makes me wish for an updated modern Marathon.

Dharkbayne
2004-10-24, 01:16 PM
The rocket launcher in Marathon and the rocket launcher in Halo are the exact same thing to a T. I can't make the comparison with anything else, but the fact that they are an ongoing story makes me wish for an updated modern Marathon.

I've never played Marathon. Explain, is it in the Halo universe? Or just alot like it?

NightWalker XI
2004-10-24, 01:17 PM
the mellee is one of my fav HALO things, its great, especially with Shotgun

EarlyDawn
2004-10-24, 04:30 PM
Marathon is *hypothetically* in the Halo universe. There's signifigant evidence that suggests Halo may be before or after Marathon, but in the same universe.

Octavian
2004-10-24, 05:14 PM
That's the rocket launcher.

If you had ever tried reading the side of it, it would say SPNKR. It's a god damn nickname.

Zodiac
2004-10-24, 05:24 PM
What *is* "Marathon"? Link?

Dharkbayne
2004-10-24, 05:29 PM
If you had ever tried reading the side of it, it would say SPNKR. It's a god damn nickname.


You said "Forgot the SPNKR"

He already stated "Rocket launcher" in his list.

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/4497/mayormccheese-wonka.gif

Everay
2004-10-24, 05:31 PM
why do you need more weapons? the game has all of the basics, fast fireing assault rifle, semi slow fireing pistol, sniper, rocket, and then there are the covinant ones, their assault rifle, charge up gun, needler. what else could you want? super duper laser eyes? Jesus beams?

JetRaiden
2004-10-24, 06:19 PM
why do you need more weapons? the game has all of the basics, fast fireing assault rifle, semi slow fireing pistol, sniper, rocket, and then there are the covinant ones, their assault rifle, charge up gun, needler. what else could you want? super duper laser eyes? Jesus beams?

well, yea. But Im pretty satisfied with the amount of weapons in Halo now.

Angel_of_Death
2004-10-24, 06:43 PM
well, yea. But Im pretty satisfied with the amount of weapons in Halo now.
As are most of us. The game is fine, if you don't like it, good for you. The story IMO is really amazing, especially after I read the books.

Needler, plasma pistol, plasma rifle, assault rifle, pistol, sniper, rocket, shotgun = 8

Math much?
It's the X-Box fanboy justification for paying way too much for a system with not a lot of good titles.
Ya, maybe that's why the PC Halo players love it so much too.

BUGGER
2004-10-24, 10:39 PM
You can't really downgrade Halo on xbox. It was the first major money seller for xbox, if not the first game for xbox. Xbox live wasn't even being used. Halo is a very basic game, but because of its storyline (which I think can be a movie itself) and its supurb graphics and voice acting, I think thats why its such a good game. Might I say the music is pretty adicting too. In the end when E419 is blwoing up then the music plays while u drive the last of the PoA to the last ship before the time runs out, it just pumps you up.

All hail Halo and soon to be Halo2!!!!

Everay
2004-10-24, 11:25 PM
oh yes, that last part in halo, the driving level, is practicaly the best level in any game ever. much more fun than any run your ass off before the timer shuts down level that i have ever played.

Octavian
2004-10-25, 02:30 AM
You said "Forgot the SPNKR"

He already stated "Rocket launcher" in his list.

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/4497/mayormccheese-wonka.gif



Last edited by Derfud : Yesterday at 12:12 AM. Reason: RAWKEET LAUNCHAIR!

He edited it AFTER I posted.

Biohazzard56
2004-10-25, 08:22 AM
I like the library level... /me rubs his shotgun
That makes you the only one.

Everay
2004-10-25, 09:35 AM
i think it was sorta fun, it was a bitch, but fun, because it was hard, shotguns own in that level.

Triggar
2004-10-25, 09:40 AM
You said "Forgot the SPNKR"

He already stated "Rocket launcher" in his list.

http://img1.exs.cx/img1/4497/mayormccheese-wonka.gif

Ahhahahahahahhaha a :lol:

Asshole :rofl: