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HotDogTommy
2003-02-11, 10:25 AM
So all outfit tags are visible? Does that mean if I have a platoon waiting in the treeline outside a base that everyone can be seen? That means no surprise attacks. And say I'm marching to a base by myself or with a squad and we see an enemy tank. Does that mean we can't duck and cover instead of being eaten alive by a tank? I guess my question is actually, are the clan tags visible all the time? Or do they just appear when you put your targeting reticule over them?

OmnipotentKiwi
2003-02-11, 10:46 AM
So all outfit tags are visible? Does that mean if I have a platoon waiting in the treeline outside a base that everyone can be seen? That means no surprise attacks. And say I'm marching to a base by myself or with a squad and we see an enemy tank. Does that mean we can't duck and cover instead of being eaten alive by a tank? I guess my question is actually, are the clan tags visible all the time? Or do they just appear when you put your targeting reticule over them?
Visible all the time, I can nearly guarantee the system is going to be a lot like what you find with MMORPGs, and generally I don't think tags exposing you is going to be TOO much of an issue. There will still be plenty of places to hide and use cover.

Big Bro
2003-02-11, 11:00 AM
Based on what I understood from interview, and the MMORPGs I've played...

The OUTFIT NAME will appear below the character name. This will only be visible if you are within a certain radius of the character.

I haven't heard anything about OUTFIT TAGS being displayed...but that just could be cause I haven't read the right thread.

If you are worried about people scanning the horizon for enemy names/tags and targeting you, I'm sure they've already addressed that.

Even if they haven't, you always have cloak...

Kyonye
2003-02-11, 11:01 AM
that is true but having a tag will be annoying at some points. if you really need to set up a sneak attack and someone spots you. that would cause a problem. they should make it so that only your empire can see the tags from afar and the only way for a tag to bcome visible to another empire is to be upclose.

OmnipotentKiwi
2003-02-11, 11:28 AM
To clarify, he is right, the full name is displayed, not the tag.

Kyonye
2003-02-11, 11:34 AM
ok

SpaceDrake
2003-02-11, 11:37 AM
And names aren't displayed unless you're quite close - though I do believe advanced targeting ups the range on that.

In short, stealth is possible, don't worry. And if it's not, some of us are going to tear the devs a new hole. :devilwink

Kyonye
2003-02-11, 11:38 AM
that is also true.

Lillemanden
2003-02-11, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by OmnipotentKiwi
To clarify, he is right, the full name is displayed, not the tag.
I'm pretty sure I've heard it was the other way around... Maybe I'm wrong, showing the names would defintly be the best way - since you can see the outfit decal.

Also I hope that you wont see (outfit) names throgh walls, that would suck - Don't think the devs would be that stupid... Would rule out a wall hack though, since it would allready be in the game :p

Lillemanden
2003-02-11, 11:47 AM
by OmnipotentKiwi
Outfit Tags: Currently it shows the full outfit name under your name. Enemies will show outfit tags, but not names, unless you have advanced targeting implant. You also get logos on armor and vehicles.
(from another thread)

hmm, you say somthing different there.. I'm just gonna go check with the dev interview...

Lillemanden
2003-02-11, 11:52 AM
Ok, I checked it.
Dave says that you'll only see the outfit name of enemies, unless you have the advanced targeting implant, then you'll also see the name.
He does however say that he's not sure.

OmnipotentKiwi
2003-02-11, 12:04 PM
What I meant by tag, was name, I just chose bad wording. Will edit that right now.

WCruler
2003-02-11, 12:06 PM
Ok I read around and I got something totally different out of all those posts and news reports.

I think you can only see the names and outfit tag of people in your own empire. You can not see any name or outfit tag on enemies from another empire, unless you have advanced targeting you can see the persons name and health under your aimer. So I would not be worried about your name poping up b/c the enemy can not see it. If I am right then this would also work so you can tell friend from foe in a dark area.

Sorry if I am wrong, and please clarify so I can stop being confused. :doh:

Lillemanden
2003-02-11, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by Lillemanden
Ok, I checked it.
Dave says that you'll only see the outfit name of enemies, unless you have the advanced targeting implant, then you'll also see the name.
He does however say that he's not sure.
So Dave is wrong? ;)

Mikedanad
2003-02-11, 04:26 PM
I'm sure a number of people would be real pissed if you couldn't, say, hide behind a rock, and your head is covered, but your name is still floating for all to see...any tag like that might as well be an arrow pointing straight down..

Derv
2003-02-11, 06:00 PM
First of all, there are no tags in MMO's, so we need to remove that word from our vocab now =). Secondly, I have a great deal of confidence in the game creators to do this part right, so I also would not worry about it. I'm sure that you won't be able to see someone's outfit above there head unless there are certain conditions met (such as distance and such) or you can;t see outfits at all of enemies and Dave just goofed up

ChronicDelta
2003-02-11, 06:31 PM
I think it will be just like SOCOM for PS2 where u can only see names of people on your team/empire

OmnipotentKiwi
2003-02-11, 08:12 PM
I think it will be just like SOCOM for PS2 where u can only see names of people on your team/empire
No, you can see the outfit name of your enemies, and this isn't speculation, it is fact.

Lillemanden
2003-02-12, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by OmnipotentKiwi
No, you can see the outfit name of your enemies, and this isn't speculation, it is fact.
What Dave said anyway, and he also said i wasn't totally sure.

HotDogTommy
2003-02-12, 10:22 AM
Does anyone foresee a BAttlefield 1942-esque targeting system? What I mean is, you see enemy outfit names only when your reticle passes over them, no matter the distance. So snipers can't ever really hide. All you would have to do is sweep the horizon with your reticle. that's what i do in BF42 to get rid of snipers.

Flameseeker
2003-02-12, 10:41 AM
I'm hoping for a MoH type target system. Although, if you have AT on you should be able to see name and health of enemy if they are within a certain range.

Alucard
2003-02-12, 10:48 AM
you cant see their name unless you can see them...