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JetRaiden
2004-11-09, 11:16 PM
http://electrolicious.com/archives/2003/01/21st_century_cautionary_tale.html

This is truly a horrific contemporary cautionary tale about a 21 year old from Arizona who, from the looks of it, liked to take drugs and chat on IRC. I've known people who've done similar things...logged onto entheogen discussion channels while under the influence to report their experiences in real time. Sort of a live Erowid.

Brandon Carl Vedas, aka "ripper," even had his webcam streaming as he started to take the drugs, which it should be noted, were almost all pharmaceuticals: methadone, oxy-contin [a commenter has corrected me that, according to the IRC logs, it was "8000mg equivalent of oxy-contin," not oxy-contin], inderal, klonopin. As a channel of his irc buddies watched, Brandon chatted as best he could, reassuring folks that "my mom is in the next room doing crozzwordz," and reminding those who cautioned him that he'd taken too much, "I told u I was hardcore."

Eventually, as everyone watched, he passed out.

Eventually, as everyone watched, he died. [A commenter has corrected me that his webcam was turned off before he died.]

Reading the IRC logs chilled me to the bone. First you saw people cheering him on, just as you'd expect from a drug machismo crowd. I know this kind of machismo. Reading Brandon's words reminded me so much of John, my ex-boyfriend...he was always famous for pushing himself farther and farther with drugs, always non-chalanty chatty about it..."Yeah, whatever. It was no big deal. I told you I was fucking hardcore." I never cheered him on, but he kept on pushing.

IRC users started to panic once Brandon passed out, realizing that they don't have his address, and 911 can't do anything with a cell phone number. Can you imagine the powerless these people must have felt? The agony, first deliberating whether to call anyone � after all, no-one wants to get a friend busted � and then, once they realized they needed to call, realizing there was nothing they could do? Chilling. Truly chilling.

Folks who spend a lot of time online know about that weird line in the sand between internet and reality. When does an online stalker become a real threat? When does an e-mail flirtation become a real prospect? And when does some online person's drug use go from an abstraction to a deadly overdose?

IRC log of the event:
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/oea/logs.html


yea I know it happened about a year ago. but a friend just told be about it today. this is fucking crazy.

edit: just to give you an idea of what these drugs are like, oxy-contin is basically an over-the-counter heroin.

Triggar
2004-11-09, 11:18 PM
I read about this a while ago.

That's really, really sad.

martyr
2004-11-09, 11:20 PM
why else do you think we collected addresses from everyone that signed up for the mobilization

AztecWarrior
2004-11-09, 11:31 PM
I tend to take the position that the man was an ass, as well as the people that were cheering him on, i.e.:

[ 02:50:41 ] [ %Pnutbot ] ripper is a gangster!!!

Sucks to be the people trying to help, though. They did what they could.

JetRaiden
2004-11-09, 11:35 PM
Comment posted by Ripper's dad

I am Brandons father, he was a very intelligent, kind and caring to any that he could help.I do not think that any of you knew him as I did. He always pushed the envelope, faster bigger better!



This is a true tragedy to lose a Son to drugs.The people who participated will forever live with the knowlege that they helped KILL a brilliant young man. The internet is too vague to ever locate anyone as they use fake names, phone numbers and ID's.



This did not have to happen, if the people that were on line had left, he would have no one to talk to or prove anything. I miss him so very much, I can find no solace.



He did not need to die to prove anything. I know that he had a lot to live for. A new job that he liked.A new girlfriend.His smile was just great, how he always looked to the side.I will never get to see this again. I miss him so very much.



Please do judge unless you knew him better than me.It is truly sad for people that have no knowlege of him to try and be judgemental.Part of me died on that day, replaced with grief and anger that will follow me forever.



If you want to know about the real Brandon contact me. I pray that he find peace with God. He was my youngest child. To his true friends,I thank you.As I type this I weep on the keys that can't explain my sorry or bring my son back to me.WE LOVE YOU RIPPER .RIP14ME Richard Vedas Sr Your Dad

[ 02:09:09 ] [ ripper ] 8000mg equivalent of oxy-contin
holy fuck. that's a fatal dose right there. I couldnt believe this guy took as many drugs as he did.

Squeeky
2004-11-09, 11:52 PM
This is old as hell. I originally posted it. :cool:

eXoSloth
2004-11-10, 01:27 AM
I tend to take the position that the man was an ass, as well as the people that were cheering him on, i.e.:

[ 02:50:41 ] [ %Pnutbot ] ripper is a gangster!!!

Sucks to be the people trying to help, though. They did what they could.
That was a bot.

That's all really sad, but ultimately it was the kid's fault. The people in the channel tried to help best they could, but they had no way of finding his real addess.

Warborn
2004-11-10, 04:26 AM
I told u I was hardcore


Anyway, this is Darwinism and I find it difficult to have any sympathy for the individual who died.

Electrofreak
2004-11-10, 04:58 AM
"[ 02:18:51 ] [ grphish ] if ripper doesn't die he's going to have a great time"

How sadly ironic that statement is. :(

Sputty
2004-11-10, 09:28 AM
Welcome to the internet
Goatse is to the left, darwinism the right

"I told you I was hardcore" adds instant hilarity BTW

DaShiznit
2004-11-10, 09:55 AM
Somebody call the darwin awards, because this guy deserves one. What the fuck was he thinking? Oh, I guess I'll do all these drugs while on a webcam, and if I overdose, I'm fucked! Idiot.

TotalBiscuit
2004-11-10, 10:17 AM
Wow.. this is incredibly old :P

TB.

Infernus
2004-11-10, 03:37 PM
Wow... stupid... its sad like human's like this even live...

TotalBiscuit
2004-11-10, 03:56 PM
Wow... stupid... its sad like human's like this even live...

This one doesn't

TB.

ObnoxiousFrog
2004-11-10, 04:48 PM
I would just like to say that "I told u i was hardcore" is my new favorite phrase.

MrShooter
2004-11-10, 05:01 PM
this is Darwinism and I find it difficult to have any sympathy for the individual who died.
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Triggar
2004-11-10, 05:28 PM
I would just like to say that "I told u i was hardcore" is my new favorite phrase.

Mine too. It's especially funny when it's said after I've pounded a glass of apple cider.