Police electrocute 6 year old kid

[SecondRaven]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/12/child.tasered.ap/index.html

Can we say dumbass�

I think the use of a stun gun was tad bit overkill�.

IMO they could have just knocked out of his hand with a nightstick

[TotalBiscuit]

I disagree. It worked and no permanent harm was done. As such in my opinion there was no reason not to use it.

As for knocking the glass out of it hand, consider what might have happened if that hadn't worked.. the child would have gone nuts, probably hurt himself or someone else. What's better, a tazer defusing the situation, or a 6 year old stabbing himself or someone else?

The concept of overkill, in my opinion, does not apply when no permenant harm is done. In this situation, I do not see the use of a tazer as overkill at all. This would not have been an issue if it was an adult, I don't see why it should be an issue with a child, who is equally capable of injuring someone with a weapon and is likely to be far less predictable.

TB.

[MrPaul]

Nah, I think that was the best idea. Using a nighstick or something similar could cause him to slip and actually slit himself deeper/ elsewhere, even if he didn't mean to... At least this way he was almost guarunteed to just drop the glass because of his muslce's reflexes.

[Everay]

awesome, i wish i could do that. shock kids with stun guns that is.

[Kikinchikin]

What the hell? Since when are 6 year olds suicidal?

[Sputty]

For some reason I think the kid was having a major tamtrum and was worried about the punishment. That being said what the police did was justified

[martyr]

wtf, he wasnt electrocuted.

[/nice guy]
[nazi]
secondraven, i'm going to fix the thread title because few things piss me off more than the misuse of the word electrocution.

it was a low-power TAZER.

"electrocution" is a combination of "electricity" and "EXECUTION"

gah.

[Atog]

yeah, i think that was justified use of a tazer.
But since when do six year olds threaten to hurt themselves with glass shards?

[Fragmatic]

it was a low-power TAZER.

I made one of those with a disposable camera once :D

[Atog]

I made one of those with a disposable camera once :D

you'll have to post a guide :D

[martyr]

yeah, i think that was justified use of a tazer.
But since when do six year olds threaten to hurt themselves with glass shards?

i think i saw that in a movie once.

he probably did to.

I BLAME PLAYSTATIONS AND DOOM AND OMG GTA3 VIOLENT SOCCER MINIVAN ORANGE SLICES

[Fragmatic]

you'll have to post a guide :D

Don't try this at home!

1. stick sharp metal spikes through casing and into battery of camera (remember kids, this is DANGEROUS, don't zap yourself)
2. Turn on camera
3. Charge flash and watch it crackle
4. Poke people or small furry animals with your new toy.

[AztecWarrior]

What a waste of a TASER charge. I would have shot him in the face.

[SecondRaven]

wtf, he wasnt electrocuted.

[/nice guy]
[nazi]
secondraven, i'm going to fix the thread title because few things piss me off more than the misuse of the word electrocution.

it was a low-power TAZER.

"electrocution" is a combination of "electricity" and "EXECUTION"

gah.

/NAZI

nuff said

[TotalBiscuit]

He was right though..

TB.

[Ghryphen]

Not everyone is grammatically anal or educated well enough to choose the right words or spell correctly. If you are anal about that, the net isn't a good place for you to hang out, it will be a quick trip to ulcerville.

[TotalBiscuit]

Not everyone is grammatically anal or educated well enough to choose the right words or spell correctly. If you are anal about that, the net isn't a good place for you to hang out, it will be a quick trip to ulcerville.

Spelling I could barely give two craps about unless the person mis-spelling every other word also happens to be a complete smacktard in the process.

Using the wrong words on the other hand leads to complete misinterpretation. That's kind of important.. That triggers wars, it's not healthy.

TB.

[MattxMosh]

That kid hasn't been beat enough.

Maybe the tazing will set him straight.

[SecondRaven]

Spelling I could barely give two craps about unless the person mis-spelling every other word also happens to be a complete smacktard in the process.

Using the wrong words on the other hand leads to complete misinterpretation. That's kind of important.. That triggers wars, it's not healthy.

TB.

Seems you still got what i said despite my bad grammar...so go figure

[MattxMosh]

...dispite...

:D

[Hezzy]

*Goes off to buy a tazer*

[Fragmatic]

*Goes off to buy a disposable camera*

fixed :D

[JetRaiden]

a 6 year old kid wont seriously stab himself with a peice of glass. do you remember the kind of things you cry about when you were 6?

-your mom not giving you a cookie
-your kitty not letting you pet it
-falling on your ass
-realizing your shoes are untied
-shitting your pants

if you cried over stuff like that, would you stab yourself in the throat with a peice of glass?

[Mag]

Don't try this at home!

1. stick sharp metal spikes through casing and into battery of camera (remember kids, this is DANGEROUS, don't zap yourself)
2. Turn on camera
3. Charge flash and watch it crackle
4. Poke people or small furry animals with your new toy.

Alternate, easier method. (probably less powerful though)
Tear casing from camera, charge flash, apply soldering near flash to target.

[TotalBiscuit]

Seems you still got what i said despite my bad grammar...so go figure

My problem with you was simple.

It was not your opinion on the incident, that can't be any more right or wrong than mine or anyone elses.

It was your refusal to accept a fact and refusal to accept you were wrong. The title was misleading, that simple. I came into the thread ready to rant about the police and found that electrecution wasn't even an issue, because it hadn't happened.

A minor issue you may think, but there are two things..

1) I don't like it when people refuse to accept plain, cold, hard facts put in front of them and act like somehow I'm the evil bastard for being right

2) I'm a lawyer-in-training, I don't drop arguments. Ever.. never happens. This is part of my personality, it's not going to change. Deal with it sensibly. If you take offense to that then the intarweb is probably not for you.

Enough said on the issue.

a 6 year old kid wont seriously stab himself with a peice of glass.

Apparently he'd already cut himself with it 3 times before the officer tazored him. He was obviously quite willing to do himself harm with it. By the sounds of it, the kid had mental problems.

TB.

[I Hate Pants]

I feel sorry for the boy actually. A 6 year old kid shouldn't be willing to cut himself.

You guys have to clue in here. Im sure the boy was having it much worst than we think if he was willing to inflict such pain on himself.

Did you guys even know methods of killing yourself when you were six? Were talking about kindergarden here folks. Hell! I wouldn't even know what scucide mean't if I was six.

Someone should go investigate the child's parents.

[Triggar]

Someone should go investigate the child's parents.

QFT.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[Everay]

I feel sorry for the boy actually. A 6 year old kid shouldn't be willing to cut himself.

You guys have to clue in here. Im sure the boy was having it much worst than we think if he was willing to inflict such pain on himself.

Did you guys even know methods of killing yourself when you were six? Were talking about kindergarden here folks. Hell! I wouldn't even know what scucide mean't if I was six.

Someone should go investigate the child's parents.


good sir, that was a point in my life, where i was facinated by attack aircraft, and was thinking up ways to kill people, and thinking of (and designing, in my head that is) make shift weapons, and my folks are the best parents i could have wished for.

[Giovanni]

QFT.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Or some very high people.

Total Biscuit do us all a favor and stay in IRC? All you have done up to now is useless comments and arguing about shit that does not make sense. Had I been a MOD you would have gotten the bad end of the ban stick long ago.

[Triggar]

Let's all cut the flaming, okay?

I think TB isn't half as bad as others I've seen. So let's all get along.

OR DIE :evil:

[SecondRaven]

My problem with you was simple.

It was not your opinion on the incident, that can't be any more right or wrong than mine or anyone elses.

It was your refusal to accept a fact and refusal to accept you were wrong. The title was misleading, that simple. I came into the thread ready to rant about the police and found that electrecution wasn't even an issue, because it hadn't happened.

A minor issue you may think, but there are two things..

1) I don't like it when people refuse to accept plain, cold, hard facts put in front of them and act like somehow I'm the evil bastard for being right

2) I'm a lawyer-in-training, I don't drop arguments. Ever.. never happens. This is part of my personality, it's not going to change. Deal with it sensibly. If you take offense to that then the intarweb is probably not for you.

Enough said on the issue.



Apparently he'd already cut himself with it 3 times before the officer tazored him. He was obviously quite willing to do himself harm with it. By the sounds of it, the kid had mental problems.

TB.


1. who the hell do you think you are
2. Where did you get your horse
3. Get the hell off that high horse of yours
4. stop bitching at me

[Triggar]

Blooody hell.