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6thEdition
2004-11-13, 02:52 PM
We have a tank, weapons and buggies unique to each empire, how about they add an aircraft. Hre's my thoughts on what theyd be like..

VS

The Vanu Sovereignty's would resemble much of it's other vehicles - lighter armour, less powerful weapons but extremely agile, more agile even than the mossie. There could be one of the guns that are also on the thresher on the front of it. it's max speed could be 140kph, it's armour could be in between the mossie's and the reaver's.

NC

The New Conglomerate's could host the most powerful weapons, something about 3 quarters as powerful as the shotgun thing on the NC BFR. To balance this power, it should have quite a few moments of reload time, and time between each shot. Less agile than the VS, going at 125kph. It's armour could be the same as the Reaver's

TR

The Terran Republic's could sport duel cyclors, like in it's AI max. Its power and speed would be inbetween the VS's and the NC's and it would also be less agile than the VS's and more agile than the NC's, going at 135kph.

Common Aspects

To make air to air combat a bit easier, each should have a gunner position, in which there is an AA gun. It shouldn't be too powerful or fast, but it should home in on aircraft targets.

All should have Afterburners.

Aquiration

They could either be included in the AirCav cert, or have a Cert all their own, having the same availability at terminals as Reavers.

Names

Here are my ideas on names:

VS: Meteor, Neon, Shockwave, Stellar, Blast.
TR: Thruster, Pincer, Dagger, Racer, Sprinter.
NC: Midgie, Wasp, Penguin, Owl, Hawk.

Appearance

I really dunno, but they should kinda go along with their names. Like 'Dagger' - long, short, spiked, etc... "Owl" long wings, flat face, barrel torso...
"Shockwave" Long, flat, curvy..

Any ideas/opinions/critisms are welcome :)
6thEdition
2004-11-13, 02:57 PM
Also: Varients!
AI, AV, AA. I am too lazy to brainstorm that tho
Sabinius
2004-11-13, 03:06 PM
Afterburners, maybe not as good, and no more of just "taking a weapon from each empires artillery and shoving it on.
I think its time for new kindas of weapons, and shove them on these aircrafts

and yeah people have wanted empire specific aircraft for awhile
Baneblade
2004-11-13, 04:03 PM
I think the empire aircraft should be a Galaxy based gunship and a Reaver based fighter.

Basically do to the Gal what they did to the Del, cept with an eye toward air moreso than land.

And with the Reavers, make them two person and the pilot controls the guns only, the RIO (rear seater) gets to control the missiles, which are guided.
Warborn
2004-11-13, 05:43 PM
They shouldn't be two-man. Requiring a gunner, especially for the key weapons system of a vehicle like the AA armaments for these aircraft, would make the aircraft much less popular. It should stay one-man, with a good AA weapon, and maybe a reaverish secondary fire chaingun.
GreyFlcn
2004-11-13, 07:24 PM
No.

Last thing we need is another set of new equipment or vehicles.

Screws with balance process and Most often increases lag
Eats away at nearly all the Devs time that they could be investing in important things.
6thEdition
2004-11-13, 07:34 PM
Last thing we need is another set of new equipment or vehicles.


Isn't that why we pay SOE like 8 pounds a month? To get these new weapons and vehicles now and again?

Basically do to the Gal what they did to the Del, cept with an eye toward air moreso than land

Yeah that's a great idea.
Lonehunter
2004-11-13, 10:19 PM
I still want Air to Air AA weaponry


Empire Specific Aircraft ahs been quite a dream for a while.
Baneblade
2004-11-14, 12:18 AM
No.

Last thing we need is another set of new equipment or vehicles.

Screws with balance process and Most often increases lag

When the vehicle requires a team effort, the impact overall is much less.
hazzer2007
2004-11-14, 02:16 PM
3 quarters as powerful as the shotgun thing on the NC BFR

you mean "hammer". i dont think so, more on the lines rocket's, like reaver but more powerful, homing, 1 under each wing, reload time of 5 sec
BlackHawk
2004-11-14, 02:57 PM
You know the Dev's actually started a thread on the OFs many moons ago asking for ideas on different empire specific aircraft. They thanked everyone for contributing, said they saw a lot of ideas they liked, then never said another word on the subject.
6thEdition
2004-11-14, 05:21 PM
You know the Dev's actually started a thread on the OFs many moons ago asking for ideas on different empire specific aircraft. They thanked everyone for contributing, said they saw a lot of ideas they liked, then never said another word on the subject.

Yeah I was wondering if this topic had ever been discussed.. Oh well.


you mean "hammer". i dont think so, more on the lines rocket's, like reaver but more powerful, homing, 1 under each wing, reload time of 5 sec


I dislike that idea. The amount of power I think is right, but homing in.. On what? Vehicles?


After some hours of searching on the internet, I have found the dev's sercret developing of Empire Specific Aircraft. I have only found plans of the NC one tho, but here's the picture, just as i described it in this thread.. Shocking


http://www.kathyhancock.net/images/Bird-Blue tit-0173.jpg
hazzer2007
2004-11-15, 03:56 AM
but homing in.. On what? Vehicles?

vch and aircraft
FearTheAtlas
2004-11-15, 06:46 AM
Yes, let's give the VS a fucking UFO :huh:
WritheNC
2004-11-15, 08:27 AM
I still want Air to Air AA weaponry

All air cav are already AA weaponry. They don't have the same TTK as actual AA weaponry, but you have about the same maneuverability and speed to make up for it.
hazzer2007
2004-11-15, 08:42 AM
Is it me, or do the nc have no AA infrentry (exsept max) weapons?
MrPaul
2004-11-15, 11:13 AM
Is it me, or do the nc have no AA infrentry (exsept max) weapons?
Do the VS? The only reason the TR do is because their striker has to make up for a poor* AA MAX.

*I use the word poor on behalf of the 100s of idiots who can't learn how to lead an aircraft. IMO the Burster > NC & VS AA MAXes.
hazzer2007
2004-11-15, 12:02 PM
ok :p
6thEdition
2004-11-15, 01:32 PM
Anyone got any ideas for names of ESAs?

Haha check out this.. http://www.io.eclipse.co.uk/aircraft.html - Quite funny site describing the devs secret plans on the ESAs

I think Aircraft vs Aircraft can be improved if the devs introduce new aircraft. I think they should have guns that home in on aircraft, but making something as powerful as the Starfire will be as disasterious that the BFRs were when they first came in. Maybe something 1/2 the strength? that wud mean 16 well placed shots on a Mossie, a round 20 on a reaver, around 16 on a vs aircraft id say, 18 on a tr aircraft and 20 on a reaver. There could be in between 4 and 8 shots in a round.