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Electrofreak
2004-11-14, 05:53 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/14/cyprus.atlantis.ap/index.html


Lost city of Atlantis found?
Researcher claims ruins are in the Mediterranean
Sunday, November 14, 2004 Posted: 5:12 PM EST (2212 GMT)

LIMASSOL, Cyprus (AP) -- An American researcher claimed Sunday to have discovered the remains of the legendary lost city of Atlantis on the bottom of the east Mediterranean Sea. But Cyprus' chief government archaeologist was skeptical.

Robert Sarmast said sonar scanning of the seabed between east Cyprus and Syria revealed man-made walls, one as long as 3 kilometers (2 miles), and trenches at a depth of 1,500 meters (1,640 yards).

"It is a miracle we found these walls as their location, and lengths match exactly the description of the acropolis of Atlantis provided by Plato in his writings," Sarmast said, referring to the ancient Greek philosopher.

"We have definitely found the Acropolis of Atlantis," he affirmed, adding the site was 80 kilometers (50 miles) southeast of Cyprus.

The chief government archaeologist of Cyprus, Pavlos Flourentzos, reacted with skepticism, telling The Associated Press: "More proof is necessary."

Sarmast, 38, is an architect by training from Los Angeles. He has devoted the past two-and-a-half years to trying to locate the lost city described by Plato in his dialogues, the Timaeous and the Critias. He spoke to reporters on the "Flying Enterprise," his expeditionary ship, after six days of taking highly sophisticated "side scan" sonars of the seabed.

He said he had chosen the area from data provided by two earlier sonar scans of the east Mediterranean by Russian and French expeditions. His own expedition used more sophisticated equipment, he said.

"We found more than 60-70 points that are a perfect match with Plato's detailed description of the general layout of the acropolis hill of Atlantis. The match of the dimensions and the coordinates provided by our sonar with Plato's description are so accurate that, if this is not indeed the acropolis of Atlantis, then this is the world's greatest coincidence," he said.

Tests of that part of the seabed showed it had once been above sea level, he said.

"We cannot yet provide tangible proof in the form of bricks and mortar as the artifacts are still buried under several meters of sediment at a depth of 1,500 meters (1,640 yards), but the evidence is now irrefutable," he added.

Asked if the ruins could not be that of another city that sank beneath the waves, Sarmast said the remains match Plato's description of Atlantis so closely that they could not be anything else.

"If you compare it with Plato, you will be astonished," he said. "We hope that future expeditions will be able to uncover the sediment and bring back physical proof."

Plato wrote of Atlantis as an island in the western sea, which has been widely interpreted to mean the Atlantic Ocean. An earthquake undermined the island and it was submerged. But societies dedicated to finding Atlantis remain.

For its time, Atlantis was a highly civilized nation and in legend it has become associated with utopia. The English philosopher Francis Bacon called his 1627 book on the ideal state The New Atlantis.

Flourentzos said it was possible that Atlantis was near Cyprus.

"The myth of Atlantis has been around for ages and it is generally believed that, if it ever existed, it was somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean -- hence its name. But ancient cities and civilizations in the Mediterranean region, such as the Minoan civilization of Crete, have disappeared as a result of major volcanic eruptions and earthquakes. For all we know, Atlantis may well have existed in our region."

Sarmast said his expedition had cost about $250,000. The funds came from public donations to his US-based company "First Source Enterprise," which is devoted to the project, sales of his book "The Discovery of Atlantis," and the Cypriot Tourist Organization, which donated $60,000.

He said the book, published in September 2003, said Atlantis was in the east Mediterranean and his latest sonars confirmed it.

QuakCow
2004-11-14, 06:01 PM
interesting...

Infernus
2004-11-14, 06:02 PM
Ok... we found an underwater city, unless we find a stargate, so what?

Rbstr
2004-11-14, 06:03 PM
cool, i hope it is atlantis.

The only reason is most people thought it legend, and that it happened in our time, it could be a gerat historical discovery of our generation.

Electrofreak
2004-11-14, 06:06 PM
Yeah I'm hoping this all leads to some cool historical breakthrough. Wouldn't it be cool if they found a sealed container down there with all sorts of cool historical scrolls and shit? I mean, I know it won't happen but I wish it would.

Infernus
2004-11-14, 06:07 PM
Finding an underwater city? I still don't see whats great about it, ok so a legend is fulfilled... and?

Corrosion
2004-11-14, 06:11 PM
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Firefly
2004-11-14, 06:22 PM
The thing that concerns me is that the Mediterranean area is full of these types of sites. Whether they be failed sea-cities of the Roman Empire or simply towns that were built and suffered cataclysmic events like Pomeii.

You could theoretically say any of the cities that were swallowed by the ocean could be Atlantis, since the only recording we have of it would be from Plato, and that dude might have been writing some Jules Verne shit.

EarlyDawn
2004-11-14, 06:36 PM
Finding an underwater city? I still don't see whats great about it, ok so a legend is fulfilled... and?It could give us a more complete view of our ancestory, as a species.

But yeah, I'm hoping we cash out with a gate. :lol:

Infernus
2004-11-14, 06:46 PM
But yeah, I'm hoping we cash out with a gate. :lol:

:rofl: :rofl: So long as I'm not the only one.

Neon Apocalypse
2004-11-14, 06:54 PM
i dont really care

good for them

Lonehunter
2004-11-14, 07:50 PM
Finding an underwater city? I still don't see whats great about it, ok so a legend is fulfilled... and?
and now all kinds of companies can charge people to take them down there and destroy it al, I mean look at the scenery.

Firefly
2004-11-14, 07:52 PM
Yeah look at the Titanic.

Ivan
2004-11-14, 08:23 PM
Don't they find Atlantis every year?

QuakCow
2004-11-14, 08:25 PM
i think ivan has a point...

Red October
2004-11-14, 08:48 PM
Don't they find Atlantis every year?

Pretty much, but this wouldn't be the first time a "myth" would be recatagorized as fact. Right now, the leading canidate really is the Island of Santorini (Sp?) in the Mediteranean Sea. More and more stuff is pointing to that.

Hydralisk
2004-11-14, 10:21 PM
I thought we found Atlantis last week?
EDIT: sorry, didn't see Ivan's post.

JetRaiden
2004-11-14, 10:25 PM
holy shit.

Derfud
2004-11-14, 10:37 PM
It could give us a more complete view of our ancestory, as a species.

But yeah, I'm hoping we cash out with a gate. :lol:

Agreed, it's about time we started heading to different planets.

Infernus
2004-11-14, 11:08 PM
Jaffa Cree!

AztecWarrior
2004-11-14, 11:50 PM
Actually, Atlantis came up a few months ago, of course, it was found, described as a part of Ireland that broke off or something...

Ivan
2004-11-15, 10:07 AM
I thought we found Atlantis last week?
EDIT: sorry, didn't see Ivan's post.
I WIN! Give me my cookie!

Hamma
2004-11-15, 12:37 PM
Don't they find Atlantis every year?
:lol:

martyr
2004-11-15, 12:43 PM
pics:

NightWalker XI
2004-11-15, 02:23 PM
Jaffa Cree!

You worship a false god!

But this discovery is cool,m would kick as if they found some high tech crap in there....obviously thats not gonna happen but theoretically it could, nothing to say a civilasation of our current tech couldn't havelived in those days u know...

Triggar
2004-11-15, 02:28 PM
Well they say a lot of the methods and tools that ancient Greek doctors used are still very much used today.

ObnoxiousFrog
2004-11-15, 04:22 PM
Fuck the gate. I'm banking that we make it big with Aquaman.

Heavygain
2004-11-15, 07:27 PM
no way frog, they gonna find the dinosaurs down there, the land before time sooooo exists still.

Derfud
2004-11-15, 08:09 PM
Aquaman is a turd. I wouldnt even call him a superhero. What's his superpower? Breathing underwater. Now tell me, how many crimes actually take place underwater? I can only think of one example really, even that is far fetched, but I will use it anyways.

EX Abduction:

Little girl is walking home from school near the beach, strange man pulls up on beach in submarine, man says to girl: "Hey little girl, want to come inside my submarine? I've got candy... and puppies!".
Guaging the potential reaction of the girl, who probably doesnt know the definition of the word submarine pretends not to hear the man in accordance with the age old saying "Better to be thought a fool than speak up and remove all doubt." and continues on her merry way. The would-be abducter cannot leave the vicinity of the submarine in fear that it may be swept away by the ever-shifting tides.

And there we have it, one of the few possible crimes that could take place near water, not to mention it's not even underwater. Which leads me to beleive, even if the girl was abducted, aquaman is not likely to be able to swim as fast, or faster than a submarine, and the culprit gets away.

In conclusion, I can say that aquaman is the most useless superhero ever.

Electrofreak
2004-11-15, 09:32 PM
But he could talk to the FISH! :D