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Sputty
2004-11-19, 10:12 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/11/18/foxhunting-ban041118.html

Britain bans fox hunt
Last Updated Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:22:02 EST
LONDON - Britain's House of Commons outlawed fox hunting Thursday, using a controversial law to override opposition from the House of Lords, which backed the blood sport to the end.

Royal assent to the measure from Queen Elizabeth � whose family has been known to enjoy the traditional hunt � was expected within hours. This would clear the way for the bill to become law and ban hunting from February 2005.


A member of the Badsworth and Bramham Hunt out at Bramham Park, Wetherby, west Yorkshire Nov. 18, 2004.
(AP Photo)

BACKGROUND: History of the fox hunt

While it will still be legal to shoot foxes, the legislation bans all hunting with hounds, including the pursuit of rabbits and deer.

Members of Parliament in the House of Commons invoked the rarely used 1949 Parliament Act to pass the ban before the end of the current parliamentary session on Thursday.

Hunting supporters immediately vowed to actively defy the ban, and challenge the legality of the legislation in court.

John Jackson, chairman of the pro-hunting Countryside Alliance, said hunters would not cooperate with a ban.

"True civil disobedience is now on the horizon," he vowed.

The Commons passed the ban late Thursday after the House of Lords had earlier again rejected a compromise amendment designed to delay the law to 2006.


FROM JULY 1, 2003: British MPs vote to ban fox hunting

In rejecting two Labour amendments that would have delayed the ban to July 2006 or 2007, some Lords argued the compromises were designed only to avoid public protests over the issue ahead of an election expected as early as May.

Prime Minister Tony Blair had favoured a deal proposed in the Commons on Wednesday to allow licensed hunting of foxes to continue. But a majority of his party's members of parliament wanted to see it banned outright and as soon as possible.

The long-running debate over fox hunting, where hounds rip apart the prey while riders follow the pack on horseback, has divided Britain like few others in the recent past.

Detractors call it barbaric and feudal, while supporters claim it is a tradition that supports tens of thousands of jobs in Britain's rural economy.

An estimated 400,000 pro-hunt demonstrators turned up in London for a rally in 2002. Smaller protests have taken place sporadically since, with some protesters disrupting parliament in the summer.


FROM SEPT. 22, 2002: Huge rally defends U.K. fox hunting

Supporters argue the ban represents an attempt by London's Labour-leaning "luvvies" to end a rural way of life they do not understand out of misplaced sentimentality.

The fight over the hunt is now likely to enter the courts.

The pro-hunt Countryside Alliance has informed Attorney General Lord Goldsmith it would challenge the legality of the 1949 Parliament Act in court. It has never been approved by the Lords

The alliance also plans to take the issue to the European Court of Human Rights, a move seen by experts as more promising.

Written by CBC News Online staff

martyr
2004-11-19, 10:43 AM
why is it legal to shoot foxes if guns are illegal

DaShiznit
2004-11-19, 10:44 AM
The alliance also plans to take the issue to the European Court of Human Rights, a move seen by experts as more promising.
WTF? What the hell does this have to do with human rights?

Triggar
2004-11-19, 10:51 AM
why is it legal to shoot foxes if guns are illegal

They don't shoot the foxes.

They let hounds run them down to the point where the foxes have no energy left, then the dogs maul them.

Terrible sport, really. Poor things.

martyr
2004-11-19, 11:01 AM
BACKGROUND: History of the fox hunt

While it will still be legal to shoot foxes, the legislation bans all hunting with hounds, including the pursuit of rabbits and deer.

seriously, i thought firearms were all unconditionally banned

Doppler
2004-11-19, 11:06 AM
Only in london itself if memory serves, rifles pistols etc are legal with license outside, wheres Frag when you need him.

Infernus
2004-11-19, 11:14 AM
Why can I see the Prince dressed in his kilt carrying his hunting rifle into Westminster Hall and shooting up Parliament in anger... Actually, I'd pay to see it.

Hezzy
2004-11-19, 12:06 PM
Guns are illegal everywhere. If you carried a gun in the street, you would prolly merit an armed response force that has no beefs with shooting you.

Fox hunting is one thing that has gone on too long. It's sick. The only reason why it was allowed to continue is because most of parliament does it. Now it's being banned and all the Toffs are acting like spoilt children.

Which isn't surprising.

Fragmatic
2004-11-19, 12:07 PM
Guns are legal for target shooting/hunting - which is mainly done out in the countryside, it's some crazy complicated shit that I don't know the workins of.

Triggar - They DO use guns for fox hunting.

I saw a nice beretta shotgun last week for �180, if I had a liscence, I would have bought it.

MrPaul
2004-11-19, 12:16 PM
Yeah, only shotguns are allowed, nothing else. Interesting fact: Fox Hunters breed more foxes than they kill, so many of the ones they release actually survive, so they were helping increase the fox population. How ironic.

Squeeky
2004-11-19, 12:19 PM
The Fox and the hound :(

Fragmatic
2004-11-19, 12:25 PM
The Fox and the hound :(

That's a good pub near me.

Kikinchikin
2004-11-20, 01:06 AM
Hooray! I used to be obsessed with foxes when I was little. Glad to hear this, feel bad for the poor guys.