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Smaug
2004-11-20, 02:09 AM
link (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=241119008)

Ben Wallace shoved Ron Artest after a foul and they sort of stared each other down. Then some dumbass threw a cup at Artest and he actually went into the stands and tackled the guy :lol:. It just kept getting worse from there. If you turn on ESPN you can most likely see some highlights on sportscenter. Jermaine O'neal got a chair thrown at him after he flat out socked some guy in the jaw.

Fragmatic
2004-11-20, 02:15 AM
so it turned into a riot?!

SWEET!

Smaug
2004-11-20, 02:16 AM
so it turned into a riot?!

SWEET!

YES. You should see the highlights. There are swarms of people with pacer players in the middle of them.

HawkEye
2004-11-20, 03:16 AM
i saw it on sportscenter man it was crazy. dumbass fan got his ass beat. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Squeeky
2004-11-20, 06:27 AM
Needs moar vid

OfaLoaf
2004-11-20, 09:59 AM
Ah, the spirit of Detroit!

Strygun
2004-11-20, 10:21 AM
They're showing it on ESPN every 2 minutes, just watch it.

Infernus
2004-11-20, 10:55 AM
I saw it on ESPN... beautiful... :rofl:

Hamma
2004-11-20, 12:33 PM
yea needs vid.

Fragmatic
2004-11-20, 12:37 PM
yea needs vid.
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Squeeky
2004-11-20, 01:35 PM
yea needs vid.

qfmft++

I dont have a TV here, so someone find a vid and link k thx :love:

Smaug
2004-11-20, 03:22 PM
ESPN has a video but it is some kind of funky system. So try this link (http://espn.go.com/#playmotion) click on the link that says "Sportscenter breaks down the brawl" in the list of movies to play.

EDIT: better link added

Sputty
2004-11-20, 06:34 PM
Just imagine a bunch of rich basketball players fighting for no reason and attacking fans, the people who made their wealth possible.

AztecWarrior
2004-11-21, 03:35 AM
Ah, the spirit of Detroit!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Smaug
2004-11-21, 11:26 AM
http://www.basketbrawl.us/fight-3.jpg


AHAHAHA. This is the silly fucker that threw a cup of beer at Ron Artest, about to get punched in the face by him. That guy just KNOWS he is fucked.

Hamma
2004-11-21, 01:53 PM
I finally caught it on TV last night, holy shit some people got fucking leveled. Some serious ownage happened at this brawl :eek:

Squeeky
2004-11-21, 01:55 PM
I Need A Vid :( :(

Hamma
2004-11-21, 01:56 PM
There has to be one somewhere.

Smaug
2004-11-21, 02:13 PM
I Posted One You Dumbasses.

Squeeky
2004-11-21, 02:13 PM
http://media.holla-front.com/nbafight.wmv

http://mfile.akamai.com/12942/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2004/1120/3935750.200k.asx

http://www.santoalt.com/pacers_pistons_fight.php

Smaug
2004-11-21, 02:14 PM
yeah or you go to the link that I posted on the first page (http://espn.go.com/#playmotion) and click "Sportscenter breaks down the brawl" on the right side of the page.

Squeeky
2004-11-21, 02:21 PM
They all need a hug.

Smaug
2004-11-21, 02:25 PM
Jermaine O'neal is the new 'hold dat'. This I do delcare.

I Hate Pants
2004-11-21, 03:17 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, best video of the fight right here

http://www.floppytaco.com/video_clips/pistons-pacers-nba-fight.php

Artest is a fucking smartass. Laying down there chilling like everything was cool. I would of liked to jump in there and sock him in the face. I hate his fucking guts. Him and the rest of the Pacer's think they are thug.

If Artest wanted to do the right thing. He would of left for his team's bench and not act all cool and shit and lay down on the desk. He was only trying to provoke Detroit by doing so.

Hamma
2004-11-21, 03:52 PM
One thing I learned from this.. people actually still go to basketball games and watch basketball?

THrONeBeaST
2004-11-21, 05:01 PM
damn...thought that was a hockey game at first :p

Jennyboo
2004-11-21, 05:10 PM
damn...thought that was a hockey game at first :p

:D :lol: :rofl: Was pretty bad .. I think i hear Lawsuit in the weeks to come :lol:

Angel_of_Death
2004-11-21, 07:27 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, best video of the fight right here

http://www.floppytaco.com/video_clips/pistons-pacers-nba-fight.php

Artest is a fucking smartass. Laying down there chilling like everything was cool. I would of liked to jump in there and sock him in the face. I hate his fucking guts. Him and the rest of the Pacer's think they are thug.
First of all, would you rather he be in the middle of the fight with the Pistons as he always is. I'm surprised he kept his temper for once, and even if his decision wasn't the smartest to lay down like that there, it is alot smarter than any thing he would have normally done.

The fans are the ones to blame, not the players. Carter put it best, saying "if you were walking down the street and someone through somehting at you would you just let it slide?" Hell no, I'd do the exact same thing and go beat the shit out of whoever threw it. The fans went crazy and provoked the players.

On the other hand I would have loved to see Benny Wallace go hand someone a beating, he's one scary man.

Smaug
2004-11-21, 07:31 PM
Suspensions dealt today.

Artest - suspended the remainder of the seasons(70 something games IIRC)
O'neal - 25
that other guy - 30

Ben Wallace - 6...

something is amiss

Master-Chief
2004-11-21, 08:03 PM
http://www.basketbrawl.us has a high res copy of it if you guys are still looking...

too crazy

Triggar
2004-11-21, 08:06 PM
That was the most barbaric, immature, disgusting disgrace that I have ever seen amongst "professionals".

Everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves for acting like rabid dogs.

Squeeky
2004-11-21, 08:34 PM
And they call themselves professional basketball players :rolleyes:

OfaLoaf
2004-11-21, 08:38 PM
That was the most barbaric, immature, disgusting disgrace that I have ever seen amongst "professionals".

Everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves for acting like rabid dogs.
If you think that's disgusting, don't watch hockey. Or some of those European Football riots, from what I hear.

Electrofreak
2004-11-21, 08:50 PM
Why can't the whole world just hold hands and sing "Kum-bye-yah"?

Hamma
2004-11-21, 08:59 PM
Definatly add that vid to my archive

Triggar
2004-11-21, 09:17 PM
If you think that's disgusting, don't watch hockey.

See, with hockey:

a) the players are heavily padded

and

b) they don't bring the debacle into the stands, where people have paid to watch you do your job.

Jennyboo
2004-11-21, 10:01 PM
Just over paid Babies IMO

GeneralRazor
2004-11-21, 10:08 PM
BEST FANS IN THE NBA!!! DETROIT "I'LL THROW A BEER OR HIT YOU WHEN YOUR NOT LOOKING!!"

And the Pacers....with 6 men...still held their own enough to keep it within 3....

Angel_of_Death
2004-11-21, 10:15 PM
See, with hockey:

a) the players are heavily padded

and

b) they don't bring the debacle into the stands, where people have paid to watch you do your job.
The players are heavily padded yes, but when they fight they don't wear helmets so it's all the same really.

And they don't bring the fights to the fans? Jeez, I was at a game where Domi fought a fan in the penalty box.

Also, you cannot compare the fighting in hockey to those in basketball. Some of the guys in hockey are paid to fight, paid to knock heads off.

Am I the only person who is on the players side? As I quoted and Vince Carter said before, "If you were walking down the street and someone threw something at you, would you just let it slide?" No, definitely not.

Edit: Agreed General, what the Pacers did vs. the Magic is nothing short of a miracle.

GeneralRazor
2004-11-21, 10:20 PM
The players are heavily padded yes, but when they fight they don't wear helmets so it's all the same really.

And they don't bring the fights to the fans? Jeez, I was at a game where Domi fought a fan in the penalty box.

Also, you cannot compare the fighting in hockey to those in basketball. Some of the guys in hockey are paid to fight, paid to knock heads off.

Am I the only person who is on the players side? As I quoted and Vince Carter said before, "If you were walking down the street and someone threw something at you, would you just let it slide?" No, definitely not.

Edit: Agreed General, what the Pacers did vs. the Magic is nothing short of a miracle.

First of all, this isn't football, and the player AREN'T PADDED (if you mean security, check again)

If you reveresed the roles, and Wallace was lying on the bench in INDIANA, I GARUANTEE there would have been no beer thrown on him, and Artest has learned enough not to provoke like BOTH "Wallace brothers" did.

Fans...They had nothing to do with it..I mean did you see them...They were VERY respectful.....

Angel_of_Death
2004-11-21, 10:25 PM
First of all, this isn't football, and the player AREN'T PADDED (if you mean security, check again)
Hockey buddy, I was talking about hockey in response to Trigger's comment.

If you reveresed the roles, and Wallace was lying on the bench in INDIANA, I GARUANTEE there would have been no beer thrown on him, and Artest has learned enough not to provoke like BOTH "Wallace brothers" did.

Fans...They had nothing to do with it..I mean did you see them...They were VERY respectful.....
That last sentence is sarcasm, right?

GeneralRazor
2004-11-21, 10:27 PM
I should figure a thread to not stay on point...forgive me, I didn't read. I tried to stay on point.

And yes. On point.

Smaug
2004-11-23, 05:42 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50135&item=5142028292
hahahaha

Pope
2004-11-23, 07:55 PM
Just because Artest is recieving a paycheck in the 7 digits doesn't make him open to assault.

There were obviously better ways to handle it however. Such as simply pointing the fan out to the ref, I'm sure the permanent ban from the stadium would of been a much larger punishment.

oddfish
2004-11-24, 08:16 AM
it was a bunch of assholes acting like animals.

look, in a situation like that, where you are in a sports arena and you are a professional sports player, you have to act like a professional. It isn't the streets. It isn't some back alley. It's a fucking sporting event. Artest and the rest of his lackeys that went hopping up into the stands to pound on people had no fucking business doing what they did, I don't care if they were having grenades lobbed at them. That situation needs to be resolved in another manner. AND, if you're out in public and some random guy throws a beer on you, you have the choice to fuck him up or let it slide. If you fuck him up, expect consequences. And, for that matter, since when does being on the streets make it okay to throw down with someone?
Am I the only person who is on the players side? As I quoted and Vince Carter said before, "If you were walking down the street and someone threw something at you, would you just let it slide?" No, definitely not.
that's such a backwards ass way of looking at it. of course you wouldn't let it slide. if you did, hats off to you, Ghandi. But that still doesn't make you running up and kicking the shit out of the person who threw it any more okay. I don't give a shit how you look at it. That's just not how it works. If some random guy chucked a beer at Artest outside of the arena whilst he was walking down the street or something and ol' Ron charged him and punched him in the face he'd be facing CRIMINAL charges, not this league punishment happy horseshit. Oh boy, he's suspended from basketball. He can still go make his R&B albums and smoke his weed and participate in acts of random asshole-ishness. I can't understand how anyone can side with the players. And I can't understand how anyone can side with the fans! Both parties are equally fucking ignorant, childish, and just plain fucking stupid. I think the fans that were involved ought to be fucking kicked in the nuts so hard it jarrs their fucking molars loose, and I think the players ought to recieve similar punishment. Plus, criminal charges all around. This suspension shit is ridiculous, and they're trying to APPEAL it!!! Fucking overpaid assholes ought to be ashamed of themselves for being so audacious. I havn't heard anything about criminal charges but from what I have heard they aren't facing any. They ought to be but they're not. They're getting off easy. Fans and players. Then they have the audacity to bitch about a suspension. Get the fuck outa here. Unbelievable. Sure, they're playing a fucking kid's game but they're getting paid big people money, they should fucking act like it. Same goes for the fans. You're old enough to buy beer? Great, then you're old enough to sit down and enjoy the game without being a prick just like the rest of the adults in attendance you fucking ape. When the hell are people going to grow up. And for anyone who "feels the pain" of the players: Wake the fuck up.