New Star Wars RTS!

[Derfud]

Looks like the guys who made all of the C&C games will be working on an upcoming star wars RTS.

Check it out:

http://www.petroglyphgames.com/

[Octavian]

It'll be another 10 years before this franchise is dead. :(

[Fehronozova]

Former Westwood can do nothing but breathe new life into it.

(this was announced on the 9th by the way, you're slow :))

[Derfud]

Well if I am so slow, why didn't you post it before I did?

[Fehronozova]

It's on my site and I had no idea that anyone here was interested in either Westwood or Star Wars.

[Derfud]

Then obviously you didnt know that Hamma used to run a Tiberian Sun fansite. (Hamma.com? If I remember correctly). We all love westwood here, and how could a forum full of interweb nerds not love star wars?

[Fehronozova]

TibSun was, while not horrible, my least favorite. :)

But Red Alert, now that's a game...

[EineBeBoP]

It'll be another 10 years before this franchise is dead. :(



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its not gunna die for a LONG time. at least 2 or 3 generations IMHO.

[I Hate Pants]

Bah! Lucas Arts should do a revamped and improved version of battlefront mean't only for the PC.

[Derfud]

I hope they will make an episode 7 8 and 9 some time.

[EineBeBoP]

I hope they will make an episode 7 8 and 9 some time.

or at the very least, release book versions

[Electrofreak]

Yeah, I heard about this about a week back. Petroglyph (which, as mentioned, consists mostly of the Westwood staff) seems to be going in a good direction by making this game. Should be interesting to see a Star Wars game that isn't LucasArts or Sony. I'm guessing it will probably be a pretty decent game if those guys are working on it.

Edit- Former Westwood can do nothing but breathe new life into it.

(this was announced on the 9th by the way, you're slow :))

^ Learned about it from your website as a matter of fact... :D

[Lonehunter]

I hope they will make an episode 7 8 and 9 some time.
the rights to making Star Wars movies will Die with Lucas, so just hope we discover the fountain of youth.

[Fehronozova]

or at the very least, release book versions

They are in book version, just spread throughout multiple series.

And Electro, :D .

[Hamma]

Very cool, westwood was the coolest company ever. C&C kicked ass right up until EA ate it up and shit it out.

[Fehronozova]

Very cool, Westwood was the coolest company ever. C&C kicked ass right up until EA ate it up and shit it out.

QFEAT

[JetRaiden]

no Screenshots? why should I even care about this game at this point?

[Fehronozova]

no Screenshots? why should I even care about this game at this point?
That's the spirit. :rolleyes:

[EineBeBoP]

They are in book version, just spread throughout multiple series.

And Electro, :D .

Are they the official stuff tho? If so, then sweet. im nearly to the end of 9 :p

[Fehronozova]

Are they the official stuff tho? If so, then sweet. im nearly to the end of 9 :p
I'm fairly certain that they have to be authorized by Lucas.

Not canon, but the next best thing.

[martyr]

holy crap, who wants to guess what percentage of the petroglyph team is overweight

[Fehronozova]

holy crap, who wants to guess what percentage of the petroglyph team is overweight
Now, now, don't be mean. :lol:

[Sputty]

There has NEVER been a really good Star Wars RTS
Galactic Battlegrounds: Age of Empires with star wars
Force Commander: Weird system, stupid plot
Rebellion: More of a TBS, but it's technically an RTS, but it was way too hard and had annoying AI, only 2 sides

BTW, shitty games of C&C and westwood:
Red Alert 2, That Dune remake(not dune 2000, the later one), Earth and Beyond, never played Tiberian sun so can't say.

[Biohazzard56]

I lost all respect in EA when they shutdown Westwood.

[Fehronozova]

There has NEVER been a really good Star Wars RTS
Galactic Battlegrounds: Age of Empires with star wars
Force Commander: Weird system, stupid plot
Rebellion: More of a TBS, but it's technically an RTS, but it was way too hard and had annoying AI, only 2 sides

BTW, shitty games of C&C and westwood:
Red Alert 2, That Dune remake(not dune 2000, the later one), Earth and Beyond, never played Tiberian sun so can't say.
RA2, shitty?

You have got to be kidding me; that's one of their most successful games.

[Biohazzard56]

Earth and Beyond Online was Brilliant.

[Sputty]

Yes, Earth and Beyond, offers the great fun of mining, boring leveling, simple and similar ships and few weapons, beams, missiles and guns! OMG SO MUCH TO DO!!!
In fact, EA cancelled it outright.

And RA2, the most annoying, cartoony, horrible plot that they put too much emphasis on, with dumb characters, annoying units and weird graphics that don't remind me so much of RA1, but rather a morning cartoon
Successful does not equal good
If that were true just about every sports game would be good

[Fehronozova]

Sports is a different realm altogether, but I digress.

Red Alert 2 was purposely corny and that was a big risk. It paid off.
I know that many RA fans were upset by this, but it brought in a horde of new players.
I loved RA2's corniness and bad acting.

Also, what's the difference between Earth & Beyond's grinding and nearly any other MMO's grinding? The game still had a following when it was cancelled.

This is EA people.

[Derfud]

BTW, shitty games of C&C and westwood:
Red Alert 2, That Dune remake(not dune 2000, the later one), Earth and Beyond, never played Tiberian sun so can't say.

I actually enjoyed all those games, including Emperor, I actually had quite a bit of fun with it. It was also the first westwood game to use 3 factions.

I would have to say, that my favouiret C&C game was tiberian sun. It had probably the coolest story, and some really great actors.

[Fehronozova]

:)

Tiberian Sun's top-notch news casting. (http://nevereal-entertainment.net/vids/Surprise.wmv)

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[JetRaiden]

Tiberian Sun was the first RTS I think I ever really got into.

[MattxMosh]

New Stars Wars RTS has nothing on teh new Christian RTS dropping in 05'

[Hamma]

My very first fansite was a Tiberian Sun website. I was around the C&C community for some time.

Edit:
http://staff.planetside-universe.com/hamma/htspold.gif

Slightly borked, only screenie i have.

[JetRaiden]

Now I wanna reinstall it. :(

maybe I can get it on my cell phone now. ;)

[EineBeBoP]

EnB was l33t. then just after release, they patched it straight to hell. They had a shitty plot line and executed it poorly.

[Rbstr]

My very first fansite was a Tiberian Sun website. I was around the C&C community for some time.

Edit:
http://staff.planetside-universe.com/hamma/htspold.gif

Slightly borked, only screenie i have.
That looks kinda like the frame of PSU

[Mr1337Duck]

I've always had this idea for an RTS, you guys tell me what you think.

I got it in my head when I first heard one of you guys talk about Empire Earth, the expansion thing. It sounded so kickass, I decided to go get it. Little did I know that in this game, space was just the ocean... but it looked different. Total bullshit, that was. I've always wanted to see a game where you and your opponent start off with one planet each, and there's like 12 planets total on the map, then you start off by colonizing the nearby planets, then you use the planets to support your objectives. Like some planets could be mostly resource worlds, while others would be like Reach in Halo, entire worlds dedicated entirely to producing militaries. Then your opponent can send their guys to take your planets from you, so you need to have standing armies to defend your worlds. And vice versa, obviously. You can win with less planets, but the more you have, the more effective you'll be. Basically the same idea as Empire Earth: AoC attempted to use, but it doesn't suck ass.

[Octavian]

Hmm Jimma, Frenchy99. You still in contact with these guys?

[Fehronozova]

I've always had this idea for an RTS, you guys tell me what you think.

I got it in my head when I first heard one of you guys talk about Empire Earth, the expansion thing. It sounded so kickass, I decided to go get it. Little did I know that in this game, space was just the ocean... but it looked different. Total bullshit, that was. I've always wanted to see a game where you and your opponent start off with one planet each, and there's like 12 planets total on the map, then you start off by colonizing the nearby planets, then you use the planets to support your objectives. Like some planets could be mostly resource worlds, while others would be like Reach in Halo, entire worlds dedicated entirely to producing militaries. Then your opponent can send their guys to take your planets from you, so you need to have standing armies to defend your worlds. And vice versa, obviously. You can win with less planets, but the more you have, the more effective you'll be. Basically the same idea as Empire Earth: AoC attempted to use, but it doesn't suck ass.

Sounds like Sovereign. (http://pc.ign.com/articles/134/134053p1.html?fromint=1)

[Hamma]

Hmm Jimma, Frenchy99. You still in contact with these guys?
Jimma was actually a friend of mine in RL - I had this site up while I was still in HS - went to school with him. I havent talked to him in ages, the others I havent seen in ages either. Every now and then one of them looks me up on IRQ but thats about it.

That site was nowhere near what this site has been ;)

[Fehronozova]

I only visited a few TibSun sites, so sorry. :P

[TotalBiscuit]

Very cool, westwood was the coolest company ever. C&C kicked ass right up until EA ate it up and shit it out.

QFT :groovy:

TB.

[Indecisive]

Hamma's tiberian sun page dosent sound neartly as leet as "planetside universe" :p

[Breed]

Very cool, westwood was the coolest company ever. C&C kicked ass right up until EA ate it up and shit it out.

As a player of the C+C series since the original i have to disagree.

The only Command and Conquer games i didn't like were "Tiberium Sun" (Although it could have been good if they worked longer on it) and "Renegade".

The latest installment of generals was fantastic imho and that was produced by EA.

[TotalBiscuit]

As a player of the C+C series since the original i have to disagree.

The only Command and Conquer games i didn't like were "Tiberium Sun" (Although it could have been good if they worked longer on it) and "Renegade".

The latest installment of generals was fantastic imho and that was produced by EA.

Tiberian Sun was in my opinion the most refined of the series and very well balancd (without ridiculous super-weapons). It was extremely challenging, had some interesting and innovative units and a great storyline.

I never saw the fascination with Red Alert to be honest. Red Alert 2 was fun, but I still preferred Tiberian Sun.

While the original Generals was at least balanced in multiplayer, it has an atrocious single player, the worst story known to man and an expansion pack which completely ruins multiplayer game balance in virtually every respect by introducing cheese tactics and nigh on unstoppable super units.

TB.

[Doppler]

I actualy enjoyed renegade, i've actualy gone back to playing it now that i quit PSide.

[Fehronozova]

I actualy enjoyed renegade, i've actualy gone back to playing it now that i quit PSide.
I loved Renegade. How many still play?

And TB: Superweapon General all the way. :D

[TotalBiscuit]

I loved Renegade. How many still play?

And TB: Superweapon General all the way. :D

If you insist on playing Retard-friendly I-Win Mode then yes, Superweapon general all the way.

TB.

[Fehronozova]

If you insist on playing Retard-friendly I-Win Mode then yes, Superweapon general all the way.

TB.
That was my point. :rolleyes:

[ChewyLSB]

How could you say Generals was balanced? The Chinese Gattling Tank was so insanely overpowered. I played Generals a lot, but I was a USA player (and before that a Random player), and the Gattling Tank was just ridiculously overpowered.

Also, I didn't play a lot of Zero Hour, since I quit shortly after I got Zero Hour, but the superweapon general only became powerful if you were an idiot to let the player get AA's... you need to attack quickly before he can tech to Strat Center.

[EarlyDawn]

Why did everyone dislike TibSun? Story change?

I don't own it but played it for a long time... seemed like an improved, futuristic CnC

[MrPaul]

"AK-47's For EVERYONE!"

[Fehronozova]

Well, I didn't dislike TibSun as much as others do.
My main gripe with it is the unit health.

Infantry unit one: "Blam, blam, blam, ::deep breath::, blam, blam, blam, blam, blam, dead yet?, blam blam ::dies of exhaustion::

Normally I'd like units to last longer, but I felt it was too long.
But then diskers would instagib them. :)

Loved the walkers though, they were silly looking.

And one last thing: It didn't seem very C&C to me. Too far from the norm.