My girlfriends Christian fanatic parents

[Jaged]

If you remember the nazi parents thread (http://planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27178&highlight=girlfriend) then you know me and my gf's situation. I just found out that the reason that they wont let me date her is because I am not christian. I hated her parents guts already, but this just throws fule on the flame. As much as i want to brutaly stab them to death, I see an oppoptunity here. If I started going to church with them every sunday and joined brittanys youth group on wensday, and otherwise pretended to be a christian, they might let me date their daughter. Brittany thinks the idea might very well work. I am just curious if you people think it is a good idea or not.

Belive me I hate bending over backwords to these ass hats beliefs, but the potential reward is worth it.

[Mr1337Duck]

You agnostic or athiest? Your chances are substantially better if you're agnostic. Or Jewish. They'd probably be cool with Jewish.

[QuakCow]

lol, i go to a christian school (im not christian btw)

[Jaged]

I don't really have any religious belifes. I have never gone to church in my life.

[BeRtiNe469]

I must say you do post very fast considering we were just talking about this. Well I dont really have any advice at this point in time. sorry

[Rbstr]

do you still have Xmas?!

[Hamma]

Don't change what you believe because of a woman. Don't fake it either.. just help to make them like you how you are or thats it.

[TheN00b]

I don't really have any religious belifes. I have never gone to church in my life.

It really depends on what kind of Christianity they follow. If they are Episcopalian, general-Anglican, or even Presbyterian, you might have a shot at having a touch of fun. But if they are Lutheran, or, worse, Roman Catholic, stay the hell away! Not to offend anyone here, but those two branches of Christianity seem very unwelcoming.

[BeRtiNe469]

lol, i go to a christian school

yeah so did i

[Mag]

Hamma needs to start a date-help hotline.

[Jaged]

I must say you do post very fast considering we were just talking about this. Well I dont really have any advice at this point in time. sorry
Woh, hey brittany. I diddn't expect you to sign up to these forums.

[Jennyboo]

If you remember the nazi parents thread (http://planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27178&highlight=girlfriend) then you know me and my gf's situation. I just found out that the reason that they wont let me date her is because I am not christian. I hated her parents guts already, but this just throws fule on the flame. As much as i want to brutaly stab them to death, I see an oppoptunity here. If I started going to church with them every sunday and joined brittanys youth group on wensday, and otherwise pretended to be a christian, they might let me date their daughter. Brittany thinks the idea might very well work. I am just curious if you people think it is a good idea or not.

Belive me I hate bending over backwords to these ass hats beliefs, but the potential reward is worth it.



Well I would like to point out Im a Christian :p MY parents were very much like that .. due to the fact of her age there is nothing that she can really do (unfair as it is) My parents dident see eye to eye with me when I married Hamma but then again I am an adult. If you really do make a effort to show them you care very much about their daugther that might help but then again there is no fool proof plan. Then again growning up I took the approch of rebelling agaist my parents. Something I dont recommend It mad life Hard..I was never truely Happy until I was here with Hamma. Try to Support your gf even though her parents view may not be right, you need to realize that they love her and want to protect her (not that you would intend on hurting her) So if you serious I would suggest giving the idea a try.. it might even open the door into her parents favor :D :thumbsup:

Btw: side note though my parents dident agree with my marriage, they have come round and supported the love we have for eachother :) Hope it works out for you

[AztecWarrior]

Not to offend anyone here, but those two branches of Christianity seem very unwelcoming.
Ahem- That's a pretty big generalization. Anyone who'd reject someone because they believe in a different religion is probably a fool.

[BeRtiNe469]

baptist

[Triggar]

I say get rid of her. If things are this big a pain in the ass now, imagine what they'll be like 6 months from now, or a year from now, or 10 years from now when you want to propose to her. Imagine having those two nutcases as in-laws.

At your age, I say it's not even worth the trouble.

[TheN00b]

Woh, hey brittany. I diddn't expect you to sign up to these forums.

And in other news, the shit just hit the fan.

[AztecWarrior]

How so?

[Hamma]

Unfortunatly much of the time those who always profess to love and forgive are just the opposite to people who don't believe as they do. I'm not saying everyone is like this of course.

[TheN00b]

I say get rid of her. If things are this big a pain in the ass now, imagine what they'll be like 6 months from now, or a year from now, or 10 years from now when you want to propose to her. Imagine having those two nutcases as in-laws.

At your age, I say it's not even worth the trouble.

That's unbelievably harsh, Trig. My girlfriend's parents won't even let her date, but I deal. Hayzeus, love is more important than any adult (when you're a minor, that is).

[Jaged]

I say get rid of her. If things are this big a pain in the ass now, imagine what they'll be like 6 months from now, or a year from now, or 10 years from now when you want to propose to her. Imagine having those two nutcases as in-laws.

At your age, I say it's not even worth the trouble.
Not going to happen trig. I am determined to make this relationship work. Me and brittany are great together, she dosent care about my belifes. All we need to do is get her parents to let us date. And we are both 16. This is the first relationship either of us have ever been in. Planning ahead for marriage is not really something that matters.

[TheN00b]

How so?

Hell, never mind me, I'm hyperactive. If I ever post something like this again, tell me, and feel free to stake me to your brother *shudder*.

As to Roman Catholics and Lutherans, I don't know... They seem like much more conservative members of the church, and seem much more welcoming towards lifelong members or those already familiar with the whole church experience. But that's just my opinion.

[Jennyboo]

I say get rid of her. If things are this big a pain in the ass now, imagine what they'll be like 6 months from now, or a year from now, or 10 years from now when you want to propose to her. Imagine having those two nutcases as in-laws.

At your age, I say it's not even worth the trouble.


To some extent I agree, But being that "Gf" years ago I understand how hard it is ...If you care for her and she worth it .. and your not totally apposed to the idea of attending youth group.. I dont see why not try it...at least if it for some reason dosent work out least you will have the peace of mind you did curl your tail between you legs that you really did make a effort to make it work.. Its a 2 edged sword ...At least at her age

[Derfud]

I would say, sit them down, and talk to them, let them know that it is very shallow to judge someone on what they believe in. You also need to tell them that you would do nearly anything for her, but you wont pretend that you are religious, or change your beliefs. If that doesnt work, inform them that what they are doing is classified of religious persecution.

[AztecWarrior]

Idea.

Disclaimer: I am not responsible for any fallout from this, at all.

If her family has Bible readings, tell her, Jaged, to start with the tale of the Good Samaritan.

[Fragmatic]

Love burns...

[Triggar]

That's unbelievably harsh, Trig.

So's my sooooul.

Well Jaged, I just think that her parents are going to come up with one excuse after another. You start going to Youth Group, they'll complain about something else. I know it's harsh, but I've seen this happen shitloads of times. If you think you can take it, by all means stick it out until you're both old enough to move away and do whatever you want.

[Jennyboo]

I would say, sit them down, and talk to them, let them know that it is very shallow to judge someone on what they believe in. You also need to tell them that you would do nearly anything for her, but you wont pretend that you are religious, or change your beliefs. If that doesnt work, inform them that what they are doing is classified of religious persecution.


Wont work .. Just speaking from the "little girl" with the "Bible humping" Parents. They dont see what they believe in as shallow :p I know these things I grew up with those parents.. Now I look back on it they just loved me .. probably not the best approch but they were my parents and I was the child.

[Derfud]

It's more of a gamble. Either the parents will realize how unbeleivably harsh they have been, or they will be all "GTFO AND NEVER TALK TO HER AGAIN". It's not like she is a piece of property that belongs to them. Sometimes you need to lay down the law. Look up something about laws around religious freedoms if you choose this approach.

[Jennyboo]

It's more of a gamble. Either the parents will realize how unbeleivably harsh they have been, or they will be all "GTFO AND NEVER TALK TO HER AGAIN". It's not like she is a piece of property that belongs to them. Sometimes you need to lay down the law. Look up something about laws around religious freedoms if you choose this approach.

:lol: Speaking from my life.. the only person to lay down the law to her parents .. Is her .. You basically have no say your not a part of the family..if she cares deeply about you she will "lay down the law"(like I did on my wedding day). Never ever lay down the law cept if it is your own parents..:lol: Just asking for them to hate you more. Believe me I know


Edit: Just a example from life, Both my mother and father came to me on my wedding day about 5 mins before i was to stepm into the Limo. Crying saying "are you sure you want to do this" (trying to make me feel bad). To which i layed down the law " If I wasent sure I wouldent be here, If you cant respect that I love him. The I dont want you to fucking show up Im tired of this crap. So either except it or I'll walk down to my husband alone with my head held high" (Guess they got it cuz my Dad walked me down to Hamma and gave me away)

[Hamma]

Not gonna work Derf - all hell will break loose :lol:

[Hamma]

Edit: Just a example from life, Both my mother and father came to me on my wedding day about 5 mins before i was to stepm into the Limo. Crying saying "are you sure you want to do this" (trying to make me feel bad). To which i layed down the law " If I wasent sure I wouldent be here, If you cant respect that I love him. The I dont want you to fucking show up Im tired of this crap. So either except it or I'll walk down to my husband alone with my head held high" (Guess they got it cuz my Dad walked me down to Hamma and gave me away)
Yea that was good, then her dad came down and asked me the same thing. If I could set +b IRL I would.

[Jennyboo]

:rofl: Meanwhile I told my Bestfriend and she said "If they had said that infront of me in the Limo I would have decked your Mom and dad, knocked out a few teeth" :rofl: Man I love Kristy :)

[Neon Apocalypse]

run away from home live in vermont, get a job and chop wood


sorry catcher in the rye is taking a toll on me

[JetRaiden]

tell them your an islamic extremeist.

with any luck they'll disown their daughter for dating you, and she'll be all yours.

[Jennyboo]

run away from home live in vermont, get a job and chop wood


sorry catcher in the rye is taking a toll on me

God no not Vermont :eek: :eek:

[Neon Apocalypse]

vermonts awesome

lets see you got cows, and snowboarding, oh and snow

[Hamma]

Vermont is hell.
tell them your an islamic extremeist.

with any luck they'll disown their daughter for dating you, and she'll be all yours.
:lol:

[Neon Apocalypse]

how is vermont hell?

[Spee]

Try this.


get your drivers license.
Get a car.
Get gas in said car.
Have your girlfriend make frequent trips to a nearby store, where oyu can pick her up.
Flip her parents the bird as you drive by.

Seriously. Cars allow so much freedom its nuts. I've dated 2 girls whose parents were completely fucking insane, but they couldnt do anything if they snuck out.

[Hamma]

how is vermont hell?
It just sucks, 15-20 miles between highway exits.. no drive thru's on fast food restaurants.. haha

Anywho back on topic :p

[Fehronozova]

Logic dictates otherwise. :/

[Heavygain]

Just a tip, dont let the parents know that their child has a boyfriend and just say that they are meeting a bunch of friends even if it is just one on one. Dont let them know till' you are taking it REALLY seriously. unless you did the above and are taking it REALLY seriously now.

However you do it, i wish you best of luck. And use a condom please.

[Electrofreak]

Don't change what you believe because of a woman. Don't fake it either.. just help to make them like you how you are or thats it.

^ gotta agree with Hamma on this one. Make it clear that you like their daugher, and if they aren't willing to accept that because you aren't Christian, then they aren't good parents. Talk to her about the situation and speak to her parents about it if you have to. If thats not a possibility, have her talk to them on your behalf. Last option, date her secretly. Fuck over-protective parents. As long as you're treating their child with love and respect and not impregnating her, they should respect the relationship. If they aren't... well then they suck at parenting.

[Darksim]

Yea, heres my advice.
It wont work.
You will put your life on hold for this girl, and I personally think since you guys are still minors that they will find a way to get your girlfriend to date someone else, brainwash her, or she will just say "Sorry it isnt working" and then you just put you life on hold for nothing. If your older and plan on getting married hen you can just say GTFO to her parents.

so I say "GG NEXTMAP NORUSH PLZ"

[AztecWarrior]

And use a condom please.
If they find out, you're dead meat.

[I Hate Pants]

Jaged, I did the exact same thing. This girl I knew went to a christian youth group as well (im an atheists). It was runned by the salvation army. I went to a few of them figuring there'd be no harm. But once we started talking about the bible and they started asking me to go to church I realised I really didn't fit in.

You probably like her now. But once you start going to the youth groups and church. You'll soon realise how you don't fit in with the people. If anything it encouraged me to go find a girl I could relate too more.

I especially knew I made a mistake going to these things because the woman incharge of the youth group started calling me and asking me to come sing with the choir and hand the donation bowl around the church.

I just stopped going and completely ignored her.

Now when I run into her she glares at me (the woman) probably thinking im a sinner or something :rolleyes:.

I dunno about the girl. Her house was destroyed to make room for a road and her dad died. I think she's snorting crack somewhere on the streets of Toronto. Whatever

[Electrofreak]

I dunno about the girl. Her house was destroyed to make room for a road and her dad died. I think she's snorting crack somewhere on the streets of Toronto. Whatever

:rofl: lmao I'm sure thats REALLY comforting to Jaged :rofl:

[Mr1337Duck]

tell them your an islamic extremeist.

with any luck they'll disown their daughter for dating you, and she'll be all yours.



NOTE:

ALAHU ACKBAR!!!

[Apocolypse55]

I must say you do post very fast considering we were just talking about this. Well I dont really have any advice at this point in time. sorry


If that was inded your girlfriend. And she does play PlanetSide, hold onto her!

Oh and btw, you just admitted to wanting to stab her parents in front of her...

May wanna edit that post...

[Angel_of_Death]

If that was inded your girlfriend. And she does play PlanetSide, hold onto her!

Oh and btw, you just admitted to wanting to stab her parents in front of her...

May wanna edit that post...
:rofl:

[starbum]

My question to you is; do you think you can make your own decisions based on your feelings? No matter what you post or what your situation is... there is a good chance you wont like what we're telling you. I�m not discouraging you from coming to us... I'm just saying that sometimes going out on your own, taking risks, and making mistakes is the best way to learn and to grow.

IMHO, I totally agree with jennyboo, the decision to be with you is hers alone. If she wanted to she could stomp her feet and take a stand for her own feelings. Who are you dating; her or her parents? If her parents wont let her see you...it isn�t your fight. It�s between her and her parents. If she lets them win and won�t do everything in her power to pursue what she wants... then I'd say you should reevaluate things or try to stick with it. Things might fail, but at least you can say you tried. If she takes a stand for herself and her interests... then she truly wants to be with you and wont accept no for an answer. Happy times are ahead for you both.

Either way; take a stand for your feelings. If you want to be with her, by all means, do what you have to do to be with her. Things can go either way with that. If you don�t want to risk yourself to the pain, agony, and disappointment with continuing to be with her... take a stand for yourself and put the decision in HER shoes. If she wants to keep you... she'll have to fight for you. If she isn�t up for it, she might not be ready to be with you.

Trust me, there are other women out there if this doesn�t go so well. I know you're probably saying to yourself "that�s a big clich�"... but it�s absolutely true. I had a relationship with a gal for a year and a half and it ended badly. I was stunned because I was completely unprepared for the change... but a month after the breakup, I met a new girl at a concert and things hit off pretty sudden. That ended as well a couple months later due to college work stresses... and another month later after that breakup I had a couple of non-committed flings and have now found a new girl that I am working to be with. So at least take it by my example... there are other girls out there, and it will only get better from there. You wont get together with a girl that was worse than the one before, right? So look ahead! There's probably a perfectly wonderful girl out there available to you with better parents! It might be a month or so before you meet her... but nature takes its course once you do.

In the meantime... make some decisions on your own. (I don�t mean this in an offensive way at all) You know the best decisions for yourself already. If you still want to come to us, great, have at it. Just remember the best advice to live by are the mistakes and successes of yourself.

[Kyonye]

My father has problems with me dating out of the jewish community, but i do. I am content on marrying a jewish woman (hopefully), but things may change. it may be impossible to change these parents' mind. honestly, i doubt their mind will change, you just have to make it so that they can cope with this idea of dating their daughter as much as they hate it...it may take time but you can get lucky, they could wear down...

a great leader is one who has endurance, who never backs down. outlast them, and it may work...

[Giovanni]

Woh, hey brittany. I diddn't expect you to sign up to these forums.

You sir, have been owned!

Quite frankly, changing will never help didly squat. Plus you do realise that you won't be able to tap that ass until marriage uh? Either tell her parents to suck it up and accept that at 16 years old morally and legaly their daughter can make her own decisions.

Shit in canada at 14 you can approve sleeping with a 56 years old and it's legal because you made that choice. So legaly you could go out with her and they don't have shit to say, in fact she could just tell them to fuck off.

[JetRaiden]

pick a random verse from the bible (preferably a semi-well known one) and recite it to them next time you see them. if you present it in a clever manner, Im sure they'll bend over backwards to suck your dick.

sorry I'm just brainstorming.

[Jaged]

Oh and btw, you just admitted to wanting to stab her parents in front of her...

May wanna edit that post...
:lol: no she hates her parents as much as I do. They are indeed nazis

You sir, have been owned!
Lol I diddn't get owned, I was just supprised to see her post here. I diddn't say anything in any of my posts that I wouldnt of said to her face. I just diddn't think she would sign up and post on the forums.

I just got off the phone with her. We talked for about 3 hours. I love her.

[Indecisive]

I scan the intiall post and see

"because im not a christian"
"hate them"
"flame"
and of course
" brutaly stab them to death"

Hehe. that makes me giggle.

[Breed]

I say get rid of her...At your age, I say it's not even worth the trouble.

I have to agree with the Trigmeister on this one mate, never ever ever change your beliefs for a girl, no matter how much you like her.
Even if you managed to bend and break your back for her parents, they would end up hating you for not having the courage to stand up for what you believe in.

Try dating her behind their back if she's so important to you, bend the rules.

[Gigabein]

Planning ahead for marriage is not really something that matters.

If you're asking her to defy her parents and risk alienating them, you'd better be planning for marriage. Over-protective or not, they are HER parents and they love her more than either of you can imagine. Don't damage her family just so you can have a romantic fling with this girl. Do this honestly or leave them alone. Hamma and Jen are a good example of this. They proved to her parents that they were 100% committed.

[Jennyboo]

My father has problems with me dating out of the jewish community, but i do. I am content on marrying a jewish woman (hopefully), but things may change. it may be impossible to change these parents' mind. honestly, i doubt their mind will change, you just have to make it so that they can cope with this idea of dating their daughter as much as they hate it...it may take time but you can get lucky, they could wear down...

a great leader is one who has endurance, who never backs down. outlast them, and it may work...


Agreed :D :thumbsup: Also always remember this Your dating their daughter not them ... Your feelings for her really shouldent have noting to do with them. Keeping her happy is the key and if enduring and never backing down wins their arroval you'll feel alot better in the long run. If you want to be in it for the long run. Only time will tell :D

[Jennyboo]

Ops :lol: where is Hamma when you need him to remove a post :D

[Fragmatic]

Ops :lol: where is Hamma when you need him to remove a post :D

I thought you had admin/mod powers and could do it yourself?

[Peacemaker]

Just shutting it down right away doent work guys. Jagd has never gone to church and doesnt have any beliefes. What if he starts going to church all the time and decides he likes it and "Discovers God". Hopfully we wont have another Aztec but it could work.

Dont Do's :

1. Dont recite something from the bible to try and twist their words, it will make you look like a smart ass.
2. Dont lie and say that you are christain. Tell them straight up the truth. You plan on trying to convert to their religion, the only reason, that you have something for their daughter.
3. Dont let he fight alone. She WILL lose. After spending 16 years under their rules do you think she will not back down now? She will back down if they take a stand.
4. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT BEING IN LOVE. THIS IS AN INSTANT SHUT DOWN. Say this and they will think your going to drop the L-Bomb for sex.

Do's:

1. Express to them you think that you are being unfairly judged but are going to try and conform to their standards anyways.
2. Ask them what they want you to do to allow you to go out with her. If they say something along the lines of "Nothing we wont allow it" Then this is the time to draw the line.


Should all else fail, aka "The Line".

Ok assuming the worst case senario, they wont give you a chance at all this is an example of what I would do.

1. With an angery tone but not yelling, argue that they are unjustly percecuting you for something as foolish as a beliefe when you are willing to conform to their standards.
2. Argue that they are over protective and are isolating their child from the real world.
3. Use examples of other people around that you know that are your age and are having good relation ships.
4. Ask them when THEY first had a boyfriend
5. Ask them what they would do in your position (That being that you really really like a girl and your not allowed to show it).
6. Reiterate how unbelievably unfair they are being and compaire them to some characters in a movie or something. I.E. state how they are being the bad guys.
7. Now its time to throw a couple bible lines in their face. Seeing as Im agnostic please, aztec give us a couple lines, preferbly about Prejudgment.

[Hezzy]

It's not like she is a piece of property that belongs to them.

CAPULETS?

I BITE THY THUMB AT THEE, GOOD SIR

[/drama]

[Infernus]

I don't think you should bend over backwards for ANY girl's parents just so you can date their daughter... its low.

The helpless romantic part of me says love is more important then religion.

The logical part of me says that it wouldn't work in any case...

In the end its your choice... but to bend yourself to appeal to someone is just plain low IMHO.

[firecrackerNC]

I cannot make good judgement until I see pics of this girl. Preferably naked but if not possible then semi-naked works too.

[BeRtiNe469]

I love you Sam!

[JetRaiden]

I love you Sam!


wtf. get out.

z0mg you're his gf!! Welcome!

:wave:

[starbum]

I cannot make good judgement until I see pics of this girl. Preferably naked but if not possible then semi-naked works too.

:brow:

[OfaLoaf]

I cannot make good judgement until I see pics of this girl. Preferably naked but if not possible then semi-naked works too.
Mind you, she does visit these forums. Not a good thing to say where she can read it.

[DaShiznit]

Dude, SNEAK OUT! Honesty is really overrated. But should you have no other option, request a trial by ordeal. Have them place a crucifix in front of you, and should you burst into flames, you don't get to date their daughter. Should you not die, you can date her. It's risky, but it just might work.

Oh, and Jaged, I know she's your GF, but under PSU law, I am required to show her this: http://www.tridot.net/images/stuff/PSUWelcome.jpg

Welcome!

[Jaged]

I love you Sam!
:love:

Oh, and Jaged, I know she's your GF, but under PSU law, I am required to show her this: http://www.tridot.net/images/stuff/PSUWelcome.jpg

Welcome!
Its ok, I forgive you. I know the rules. God forbid anyone, especialy a girl come to these forums with out seeing that image. It would unravel the very fabric that is PSU. Ill explain next time I talk to you brittany.

[starbum]

You do know that now she has posted on PSU... she's fair game to all of us, right?

[Triggar]

:brow:

Sammy, it's true!

[Kyonye]

Very true! :D

[Jaged]

*holds off hordes of nerds with torch*

Shes mine, hands off

[JetRaiden]

*holds off hordes of nerds with torch*

Shes mine, hands off

http://img93.exs.cx/img93/7422/1083120215052.jpg

[DaShiznit]

http://img93.exs.cx/img93/7422/1083120215052.jpg
WTF?

[Kyonye]

*holds off hordes of nerds with torch*

Shes mine, hands off


ok....:(