I Just had the scare of a lifetime.

[JetRaiden]

A good friend of mine from school almost killed herself on klonopin a few minutes ago. As a conclusion to her chronic depression. I was talking to her on aim at the time, and when she went away I thought she actually took it (She has 13 mg's, 10 is a fatal dose for someone her size). Thankfully she only took 2 mg's, while I scrambled around the house to get the school directory so I could find her address and call poison control. She lives outside boston, so hopefully I'll go see her sometime this week.


Jesus christ, my heart is still racing.

[QuakCow]

wow...that sucks... :eek:

[Electrofreak]

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Damn dude thats scary!

I have a friend, Joey, whos a big druggie and is always pushing his limits and such. He does a lot of shrooms and so on and I'm always worried hes going to get in too deep. I'm also friends with his gf (I actually introduced the 2 a few years back :p) and she usually keeps him from doing anything too stupid. I still worry sometimes tho, great kid, bad habits.

[Triggar]

:(

Good luck, Jet. Get her to a psychiatrist.

[AztecWarrior]

Good luck, Jet. Get her to a psychiatrist.
Agreed.

[Pilgrim]

Psycologist

Psychiatrists know next to nothing about mental health... really. Get her to go to a Psycologist, get some therapy for whatever is the wrong, then if needed the Psycologist will recomend her going to a Psychiatrist for medication.

[Fragmatic]

I've dragged people to hospitals who'd done simular things FAR too many times. :(

[Mag]

^ Yar.

[MrVicchio]

I know the feeling man.

One morning, around 2 AM, I got a phone call about.. two years ago now... my sister calls, sounding really out of it. She says "Mr.Vic, please, don't let my children forget me, please? (sob sob) Don't let them forget I loved them..." click.

Okay she's in Texas, I am in Maine....

Thanks sis. So I called my Dad who was 40 min away from her, and he, being the surly and grumpy person he is when called at two am was like

"What do you want this better be good."

Of course, at this point, I was not in the mood for his attitude, so I said:

"No it's two in the morning, you know this isn't good, Sister just called me, I think is going to kill herself."

"What, what are you talking about??"

relay story..

"F@#$, all right we'll take care of it, where's her husband..."

I nearly asked "HOW THE F@#$ should I know?" but thought better of it.

Long story short, she was 100% A-Ok afterwards.

I know how you feel, you did the right thing man, and relax, and be there for her when she needs you.

[Hamma]

doh, glad she is ok

[Lonehunter]

What's really wierd is a drunk suicidal person, this one chick was drunk and said that she wanted to end her life, she told everyone she would hit a telephone pole. So her friend took her keys, later she took off running full speed and smacked a telephone poll :( , happend to my Dad's girlfriend's friend. Good think she was drunk.

[Fragmatic]

I really need to say to my friends "damnit, if you're gonna top yourself, don't bloody phone me!"

They always do and I always stop them... it really hurts sometimes :(

[Triggar]

Psycologist

Psychiatrists know next to nothing about mental health... really. Get her to go to a Psycologist, get some therapy for whatever is the wrong, then if needed the Psycologist will recomend her going to a Psychiatrist for medication.

That's true for a lot of things, but if she's got a biological disorder that causes her to be depressed - i.e. manic depression, bipolar disorder, et cetera, she can talk until she's blue in the face but it won't do a thing.

My dad's bipolar, nasty, nasty disease. When he's on his medicine, he's great. When he's off them, well, he's getting his second divorce and none of his kids talk to him. You put the pieces together.

[Fragmatic]

Bipolar sucks

Was told I had it a few years back, got stuck on Prozac. That stuff seriously fucks with your head. When I was on it, I felt shit - I ended up slipping in school. I stopped taking it, took me a few weeks to "adjust", but I was doing alot better without it.

[Doop]

I feel more sorry for her because she survived a suicide attempt, not that she's depressed. Trying to end yourself but failing must be horrible. You have to live with all the treatment and stuff, and you'll never just be able to let it go.

Sorry, raiden. My best wishes.

[Pilgrim]

They wouldn't put you on Prozac for Bipolar so you must have had depression. Most Bipolar people are given small dosage lithium.

And yes, a chemical imballance needs to be addressed with Medication, but wihtout talking therapy it is much less effective. Start with the talking therapy, if the Psycologist thinks there is even a smidgen of a chance there is an imballance then they'll send her to a psychiatrist. But Talking therapy is always where you start.

Remember there are high incidents of people who get on Anti-D's killing themselves. The reason for this is when you are really Depressed (as anyone who's actually suffered from Depression can tell you) You really can't do much of anything, and killing yourself takes alot of work. The Anti-D's give you enough energy and drive to actualy put out the effort required to do the deed. That's why it MUST be coupled with talking therapy. Some outlet, to get her to a point where she doesn't want to kill herself while the medication (if needed) helps her.

I swear I know what I'm talkig about! I sleep with a woman who does this work everyday! :)

[Sputty]

Random trivia as I don't know what else to say:
Males most common method of suicide is a gun
Females most common method is overdosing on pills

[Fragmatic]

They wouldn't put you on Prozac for Bipolar so you must have had depression. Most Bipolar people are given small dosage lithium.

And yes, a chemical imballance needs to be addressed with Medication, but wihtout talking therapy it is much less effective. Start with the talking therapy, if the Psycologist thinks there is even a smidgen of a chance there is an imballance then they'll send her to a psychiatrist. But Talking therapy is always where you start.

Remember there are high incidents of people who get on Anti-D's killing themselves. The reason for this is when you are really Depressed (as anyone who's actually suffered from Depression can tell you) You really can't do much of anything, and killing yourself takes alot of work. The Anti-D's give you enough energy and drive to actualy put out the effort required to do the deed. That's why it MUST be coupled with talking therapy. Some outlet, to get her to a point where she doesn't want to kill herself while the medication (if needed) helps her.

I swear I know what I'm talkig about! I sleep with a woman who does this work everyday! :)

They put me on prozac.
I was with a counsellor at the time as well, I ended up skipping it all.

[Mag-Mower]

Good luck, Jet. Get her to a psychiatrist.
i second that

[firecrackerNC]

We got my one friend messed up big time, hes small compared to us, hes like 5'6 or something and his parents always shelter him from wel everything. So at a party we got him messed up with liquids and other substances and he drank so much we thought he had alcohol poisioning or something. He couldnt stop passing out while throwing up, hed be throwing up and pass out while still doing it. Then we thought for sure he had stopped breathing for awhile. That was the scariest moment Ive had.

[Infernus]

Situations like this always suck dude, hope she gets better... She's lucky to have a friend like you though. If it she had really done it, you responded quick enough to get her help. Its a hard thing when a friend tries something like this... I know from experience, she'll need you over the next few weeks, keep an eye on her to the best of your ability.

Be there for her, support her and she'll pull through, she got a good friend. Good Luck.

[JetRaiden]

That's true for a lot of things, but if she's got a biological disorder that causes her to be depressed - i.e. manic depression, bipolar disorder, et cetera, she can talk until she's blue in the face but it won't do a thing.

She doesnt really have any biological disorders like bipolar and stuff. She just has had an extremely tough life.

[oddfish]

suicide: permanent solution to a temporary problem.

my junior year in high school i was feeling the whole suicidal tendencies thing because i was a raging alcoholic and i thought i wasn't worth shit. then my friend Erika purposely OD'd on heroine one night and called me over saying i was the last person she wanted to see before she left. She lied to me on the phone and said that she was going to Florida with her sister to waitress for her Uncle who owned a bar. i went, and when i got there she wasn't anywhere in the house so i went upstairs and went in the bathroom and there was water all over the floor and she was laying on the tile bathroom floor naked in a pool of water and blood and vomit. I called 911 and every other god damned number i could call on my cell phone, on the house phone... after that i pretty much figured that i had no fucking business thinking about killing myself. she'd had a serious drug problem for a looooong time but i thought i had helped her kick the fucking thing. apparently not. she was really beautiful, too. sometimes you just have to try and find the good shit in your life instead of dwelling on all the bad shit. we'd talked about being together for a long time but never followed through with anything. i wish that i'd been with her at the time i think i could have prevented that whole night. i didn't go to her funeral. i couldn't. i havn't been to a funeral since my junior year. it was Erika's birthday three days ago. damn. it's been a while since that happened. .... what a waste.

[Fragmatic]

suicide: permanent solution to a temporary problem.

my junior year in high school i was feeling the whole suicidal tendencies thing because i was a raging alcoholic and i thought i wasn't worth shit. then my friend Erika purposely OD'd on heroine one night and called me over saying i was the last person she wanted to see before she left. She lied to me on the phone and said that she was going to Florida with her sister to waitress for her Uncle who owned a bar. i went, and when i got there she wasn't anywhere in the house so i went upstairs and went in the bathroom and there was water all over the floor and she was laying on the tile bathroom floor naked in a pool of water and blood and vomit. I called 911 and every other god damned number i could call on my cell phone, on the house phone... after that i pretty much figured that i had no fucking business thinking about killing myself. she'd had a serious drug problem for a looooong time but i thought i had helped her kick the fucking thing. apparently not. she was really beautiful, too. sometimes you just have to try and find the good shit in your life instead of dwelling on all the bad shit. we'd talked about being together for a long time but never followed through with anything. i wish that i'd been with her at the time i think i could have prevented that whole night. i didn't go to her funeral. i couldn't. i havn't been to a funeral since my junior year. it was Erika's birthday three days ago. damn. it's been a while since that happened. .... what a waste.

Ouch, that makes me sad :(

:love: to you, it's a shame when people go.

[oddfish]

Ouch, that makes me sad :(

:love: to you, it's a shame when people go.

shame isn't the word... :(

[Fragmatic]

shame isn't the word... :(

:(

I know how hard it is to help during ordeals like that though, it can really break a guy.

[JetRaiden]

I really have to do something about this. I'm planning on going to boston on friday but sometimes I think it can't wait that long. There's only so much I can do over the phone. I don't want to tell my parents whats going on. I just don't know what to do. I keep telling her "dont give up, things will get better, etc" but Im not sure if its really helping that much. I care about her so fucking much, she's one of the best friends Ive had in months. I dont know what I would do if I lost her.

[Fragmatic]

well if you do get the chance to see her, show her a good time.

Not saying to make it romantic or anyhting, but just goto a park, chill out for a while, talk,relax, etc. Sometimes people need a break, and even simple things like that help alot :)

[oddfish]

well if you do get the chance to see her, show her a good time.

Not saying to make it romantic or anyhting, but just goto a park, chill out for a while, talk,relax, etc. Sometimes people need a break, and even simple things like that help alot :)

that's the truest thing ever. just take her out and have a good time together. go see a movie or go somewhere to eat some really good food. a really good meal is always a great way to remind someone of how good things are. it's weird. :)

[Fragmatic]

that's the truest thing ever. just take her out and have a good time together. go see a movie or go somewhere to eat some really good food. a really good meal is always a great way to remind someone of how good things are. it's weird. :)

The simplist pleasures are always the best.

[oddfish]

The simplist pleasures are always the best.

heh, the soberest pleasures are always the best ;)... usually. :D

[Fragmatic]

heh, the soberest pleasures are always the best ;)... usually. :D

That depends, people lose their inhibitions when they're drunk.

[Apocolypse55]

Ouch...glad she's doing okay.

[Darksim]

yea I was about to say Psychologist.
I would go to a psychologist and talk to him, and if you need drugs he send you to psychiatrist which is just a fancy name for "the guy that diagnoses you with a disorder and then tells you what drugs you need to buy"
because a psychiatrist dosen't have a psych degree.
he is a therapist.
a psychologist is a psycho-therapist.

[oddfish]

That depends, people lose their inhibitions when they're drunk.

frag, you're talking to a guy who used to be an alcoholic. i will say this again and again: the times you enjoy when you're sober are so much better because there wasn't any chemical variable in there fucking with your mood. i mean, i like being drubnk as much as the next guy, but the reality of the whole thing is that nothing beats the way things look when they're not being altered chemically. nothing tastes better than something that tastes great when you're not drunk. nothing smells better or feels better or sounds better than something that sounds great when you're sober. inhibitions? ha.. i dunno. i suppose that's one thing, but... at the same time, the gratification of sleeping with a girl sober is so much more real. *sigh*... it's hard to explain to people who never had to fight through a year of alcoholism and chronic insomnia mixed with manic depression and bipolar disorder.

[Fragmatic]

:(

Gah, I should just leave this thread.

[oddfish]

:(

Gah, I should just leave this thread.

nah.. you're fine ;) i'm actually getting drunk as we sepeak. Thanksgiving break is coming up so i have tno class tomorrw. I just took four dobule shots of Bacardi Razz and drank three rolling rocks. rolling rock, bottles, best way to drink it. yep. okay, later y'all.

[JetRaiden]

frag, you're talking to a guy who used to be an alcoholic. i will say this again and again: the times you enjoy when you're sober are so much better because there wasn't any chemical variable in there fucking with your mood. i mean, i like being drubnk as much as the next guy, but the reality of the whole thing is that nothing beats the way things look when they're not being altered chemically. nothing tastes better than something that tastes great when you're not drunk. nothing smells better or feels better or sounds better than something that sounds great when you're sober. inhibitions? ha.. i dunno. i suppose that's one thing, but... at the same time, the gratification of sleeping with a girl sober is so much more real. *sigh*... it's hard to explain to people who never had to fight through a year of alcoholism and chronic insomnia mixed with manic depression and bipolar disorder.


I can agree with that.

Getting drunk is fun, but its no way to be real, so to speak, or get to know someone.


also, I just talked to her a few minutes ago. She seems to be doing alot better, she's going to nyc friday for some sight seeing. I'll still keep a close eye on her, and hopefully see her this weekend.