Today: a blind date which will live in infamy

[AztecWarrior]

Cliff Notes Version, for the people in PSU that are special: Al Gore invented the internet, do you really trust him for dating?

Goths need not read this post.

The full version:

First of all, I like to think I am an ordinary, meat-and-potatoes gamer kid. I don't wear gothy clothes, don't wear message shirts, I like Jesus, conservative, 16 years old, etc.

Another friend, an Italian/Cuban who has lost all vestiges of heritage and is really white (literally, he's pale from nonexposure to the sun) who goes by Dark Valor on the internet, is the same, minus Jesus. We're pretty similar, except he wears more black. And he owes me $3.25.

My third friend, a Brazilian-born, Germanic-heritage Brazilian/German nationalist kid who listens to stuff like Godsmack, i.e. modern alt rock, or nu rock, or whatever you call it, is also pretty much the same.

We're all gamers.

The third guy, whom we shall call PJ, had the most excellent idea of having us go to the mall at Sunset Place: Gameworks, and then see a movie. With "some chicks he met online." That's all he really knew except that one was "busted". The movie we were going to see, Finding Neverland, is horrible, and Dark Valor simply planned to skip it.

So, we did this today, Saturday.

Gameworks, for people like Rbstr who live in the cornbelt and don't know this, is similar to places like Dave and Buster's, or pretty much massive arcades with a bar, pool hall, etc. We go there, have some fun playing Time Crisis and the game with the riot shield + submachinegun, until we exhaust our funds. We buy some Cokes (for you picky types, it was Coca-Cola. I don't cal soda "Coke".), and soon it comes the time to meet the girls.

Children, the internet isn't WYSIWIG.

They weren't 40 year old rapists or anything, they can best be described as goths that weren't wearing chains, capes, black clothes, and body piercings that day. Or goths that hadn't bought into the consumerist, Hot Topic-speared culture yet. We met them in Virgin Records reading a Playboy book on how to be a bad girl.

It was probably the most incompatible thing short of matching a *** with a Nazi.

There were three of them and one brought their boyfriend- thanks for the heads-up, Weeping Raven. One had a maroon blouse with a pentagram neckalce over it (immediately sounding the WARNING: This Person Is Evil alarm in my head), the other wore a T-shirt with Elmo on it, the kind of satirical T you find at Hot Topic, and the other had ...fuck, I don't remember. The boyfriend had a black sweater and jeans- completely out of climate, but he just had to look gothy and moody. There is no winter in Miami. Ever. In the fall, a shirt and jeans is stretching it.

It became immediately apparent to me on first sight that these people did not intend to see Finding Neverland, a movie about a guy who makes the play called Peter Pan.

Of course, the first place they went to was Hot Topic. At no point in time did they try to talk with us, or vice-versa: we believe that Hot Topic is a shithole that deserves to be burned down, with its $7 shoelaces, "look-at-me-I'm-wearing-almost-as-much-metal-on-my-jeans-as-in-my-piercings" black baggy pants, or Che Guevara T-shirts. Two of them were completely wild and looked about everything in the time it takes for you to read this sentence. We pretended to be amused- there were a few shirts that were funny. There was one from Office Space, another that says "I *glove* MJ", and one making a reference to Compton. But that's IT.

At that point, Valor was considering making a break for it.

The group sepearated shortly after, as the two girls with AD/HD ran amok, looking for clothing stores. We followed them. Eventually, they came to the 2nd floor and we passed by a pretzel place. Valor got a pretzel. I had a crazy idea.

"Do you see them?" I asked, humorously, while also giving that invisible nudge that I was using it as an excuse to get the fuck out of there.

They had actually lost us.

"Uhh...no." They agreed.

So we went into AMC Theatres and watched Saw, which was an OK movie. Alone.

Basically, I will never trust PJ again to set up any possible outings involving members of the opposite sex.

Now, I've probably inadequately described the incident and you are thinking "BLOLOLOLOL U SUCK AT LYFE." I will restate this again: they embrace goth culture but don't yet dress like it, though they clearly want to. I also forgot to tell you that they were looking at the tatoo kiosk.

This trendy crap, I hate it. If you buy into a mindless culture that tells you what is cool, I have no respect for you at all.

Valor put it best: "There are 90% of chicks who are bad: rap, pop, or goth. There are the 10% who aren't. We are supposed to find that 10%."

[Smaug]

I really hope you don't call him valor IRL.

[AztecWarrior]

I really hope you don't call him valor IRL.
That's his last name.

[ObnoxiousFrog]

I suggest burning them all in a humorously large incense decanter.

[AztecWarrior]

I suggest burning them all in a humorously large incense decanter.
You are correct, sir. After all, witches burn.

"Why do witches burn?"

[ObnoxiousFrog]

OK, they're goth fucks, granted. But to think that theyre evil because they're consumer whores is sort of funny.

If anything they're poseur evil, I mean even MattxMosh and I are forming a Book of Shadows, but not in the conventional sense.

[Infernus]

Too long... all I saw was gameworks... meh.

[JetRaiden]

:lol: I have had a similar experience last winter, only I was more on the sketchy end of the spectrum. me, spencer, and my friend AJ were going to the mall to meet a bunch of "hot girls" spencer knew from some summer camp. Big mistake. One of them was quite hittable, but the other 2 were rather chubby and unattractive. We started talking and stuff, and things weren't looking good.

Somehow we got on the topic of drinking and what not. And they were being quite bitchy and annoying and we had to just kinda follow them around. Then one of them said something like "ew drinking is bad." Being the drunken asshole I was at the time, this upsetted me. AJ and I ditched them, found some random black dude who sold us weed, and lit up in the parking garage.

We met up with Spencer about a half hour later (he didn't discover weed yet, so he didn't come with us) and he definately looked like he was having a great time (/sarcasm). I met another girl who was with them, and she was pretty hot, so I talked to her for a little bit as we left the mall. Things were looking up.

A couple days later Spencer told me he found out that girl I was talking to thought I was hot. Neato.

[Rbstr]

You(ObForg) and Matt are just the kind of people i see opening a portal to hell that a bunch of zombies come out of, then me, being the kind of person that i am would have to kill a whole bunch of the zombies with a claw hammer and then your kill henchmen, hired to protect you from the zombies while you let them take over the world, and blow up the gate allowing the normal world to return.

EDIT: BTW me being the slightly evil genuis may try to reopen the portal in an attempt to controls th emosters to us a a UN police force, allowing ample sequel oportunity.

[Fehronozova]

Your reaction to the pentagram tells me how little you know of them. :)

[AztecWarrior]

Your reaction to the pentagram tells me how little you know of them. :)
What, it turned into a hippy love symbol overnight?

Satanic, Wicca, whatever.

OK, they're goth fucks, granted. But to think that theyre evil because they're consumer whores is sort of funny.

If anything they're poseur evil, I mean even MattxMosh and I are forming a Book of Shadows, but not in the conventional sense.
I just don't wish to associate with those people at all.

[Fehronozova]

What, it turned into a hippy love symbol overnight?
It was never malevolent. Only Christianity made it so.

[Infernus]

OK, they're goth fucks, granted. But to think that theyre evil because they're consumer whores is sort of funny.

If anything they're poseur evil, I mean even MattxMosh and I are forming a Book of Shadows, but not in the conventional sense.

HEY... I was partially involved :(

[AztecWarrior]

It was never malevolent. Only Christianity made it so.
I'm sure she was taking this into account.

Look, if you wear a shirt with a swastika on it in public, nobody is going to think "Wow! Look! Indian good-luck symbol! Awesome!".

The connotation matters as well, not just the meaning of something.

@ ObFrog, Inf, & Co: Book of Shadows?

[Fehronozova]

Look, if you wear a shirt with a swastika on it in public, nobody is going to think "Wow! Look! Indian good-luck symbol! Awesome!".
That's me right there. :lol:

[AztecWarrior]

That's me right there. :lol:
You're German. The national socialist system has completely discouraged any and all nationalism- so any swastikas are to be treated as Indian good luck symbols.

[AztecWarrior]

By the way, although Saw was entertaining, I wouldn't recommend it. The horror gets big in the first 30 minutes then fades away.

[MattxMosh]

If you had shown them 3D Jesus, they would have melted under his awesome power.

But seriously, people like that should be shot.

[Hezzy]

You're a wannabe German. The national socialist system has completely discouraged any and all nationalism- so any swastikas are to be treated as Indian good luck symbols.

fixt

[Fehronozova]

Okay let's see what people have called me:

Wannabe Japanese
Wannabe Communist
Wannabe Russian
Wannabe German

I guess not knowing the language denies heritage.

[Hezzy]

Okay let's see what people have called me:

Wannabe Japanese
Wannabe Communist
Wannabe Russian
Wannabe German

I guess not knowing the language denies heritage.

It's not that, it's just that you somehow manage to fit in several german words into most of your posts. It's like the "hitler was so cool, I wannabe a nazi" phase that some kids go through, only you havn't gotten out of it.

Maybe this wouldn't of happened if you didn't try to show off by sneaking german into your posts? It's against the rules, and there's no need to. I know german. I can even speak german, but I don't feel the need to put it in some of my posts.

[Triggar]

I think up to a certain age, stereotypes and wanna-be stereotypes are "acceptable" - I say the certain age is, let's say 20 for the sake of argument.

Think about it. When you're a teenager, everyone fits into one cliche or another. Everyone, you know it's the truth. Then you go off to college and meet other cliche's and form new ones until you keep finding out that you do actually have a personality of your own that isn't what MTV told you to be like, and you like music and foods and places that your friend's don't.

One day, you'll learn what's important to you, you'll learn that trying to be "different" just makes you look like eight million other people only dumber, you'll learn that it's a waste of time living according to a stereotype.

Afterall, I used to wear skater jeans my sophomore year of high school :scared:

[ChronoSphere]

Trig? In skater jeans?
::Cue ominus voice::

No! It Cannot Be! :D

[Triggar]

It's true!

I also went through a phase where I had fake nails. I also used to dye my hair purple.

All the more proof that being a teenager serves to warn you for the rest of your life about what not to do :lol:

[Fehronozova]

It's not that, it's just that you somehow manage to fit in several german words into most of your posts. It's like the "hitler was so cool, I wannabe a nazi" phase that some kids go through, only you havn't gotten out of it.

Maybe this wouldn't of happened if you didn't try to show off by sneaking german into your posts? It's against the rules, and there's no need to. I know german. I can even speak german, but I don't feel the need to put it in some of my posts.
That's quite correct, but I don't do it to show off; I enjoy the language.

[JetRaiden]

That's quite correct, but I don't do it to show off; I enjoy the language.


I do too. thank god for freetranslations. now I can create the illusion that I'm well read and have a diverse cultural background.

[ObnoxiousFrog]

The New Book of Shadows is basically drawings of vague figures and the shadows they would cast.

CAST FOR SATAN.

[martyr]

um, BECAUSE THEY'RE MADE OF WOOD

[Baneblade]

...th a pentagram neckalce over it (immediately sounding the WARNING: This Person Is Evil alarm in my head), th...
I wanted to finish your little story, but after reading that total bullshit I decided I didn't care how it ended.

[Triggar]

Then why say anything at all? If you had to comment, do it in a PM. None of us want to lock threads or ban people for flaming, so don't spam or flame.

Back on topic: Aztec, where online did your friend meet these people?

[JetRaiden]

Then why say anything at all? If you had to comment, do it in a PM. None of us want to lock threads or ban people for flaming, so don't spam or flame.

Back on topic: Aztec, where online did your friend meet these people?

gen[M]ay ;)

[Triggar]

[M] has goths??! OMGWTFBBQLOLROFLTTYL!!!!!!

[Hezzy]

Tell me their Usernames. I want to take the piss out of them.

[Fehronozova]

I do too. thank god for freetranslations. now I can create the illusion that I'm well read and have a diverse cultural background.Mmm, you do that. :)

[Majik]

Well Aztec, I would like to congratulate you for your mastery of bigotry and stereotyping. Pentagrams do not make you satanic, anymore than crosses make you the pope. Many of my closest friends are inked/pierced or have shopped at "goth" stores.
Frankly, I would rather hang out with someone who shops at hot topic, then someone who just lets some child molester with a white collar and an alter (see I can do it too) tell them what to believe and makes them incapable or unwilling to think for themselves.

[Everay]

Well Aztec, I would like to congratulate you for your mastery of bigotry and stereotyping. Pentagrams do not make you satanic, anymore than crosses make you the pope. Many of my closest friends are inked/pierced or have shopped at "goth" stores.
Frankly, I would rather hang out with someone who shops at hot topic, then someone who just lets some child molester with a white collar and an alter (see I can do it too) tell them what to believe and makes them incapable or unwilling to think for themselves.


wow, way to attempt to proove a point badly.

[Sputty]

It was never malevolent. Only Christianity made it so.
And only the Allies made the swastika out to be an evil symbol :rolleyes:

[BUGGER]

I think up to a certain age, stereotypes and wanna-be stereotypes are "acceptable" - I say the certain age is, let's say 20 for the sake of argument.

Think about it. When you're a teenager, everyone fits into one cliche or another. Everyone, you know it's the truth. Then you go off to college and meet other cliche's and form new ones until you keep finding out that you do actually have a personality of your own that isn't what MTV told you to be like, and you like music and foods and places that your friend's don't.

One day, you'll learn what's important to you, you'll learn that trying to be "different" just makes you look like eight million other people only dumber, you'll learn that it's a waste of time living according to a stereotype.

Afterall, I used to wear skater jeans my sophomore year of high school :scared:
^Speaks the truth, including the jeans^


Aztec, if you aren't like them then what are you? Find a place and stay there, like it or not you will get use to it.

[AztecWarrior]

Well Aztec, I would like to congratulate you for your mastery of bigotry and stereotyping. Pentagrams do not make you satanic, anymore than crosses make you the pope. Many of my closest friends are inked/pierced or have shopped at "goth" stores.
Frankly, I would rather hang out with someone who shops at hot topic, then someone who just lets some child molester with a white collar and an alter (see I can do it too) tell them what to believe and makes them incapable or unwilling to think for themselves.
1. From the sounds of things, you really like Christians- do you want to hang out with ultrareligous people?

I reserve the right to hang out with who I want to. Mindless teens who shop at HT just don't hit the right nerves. The pentagram only added on to the effect, my friends had the same reaction without seeing it.

2. I knew this post would also inflame some of you semi-gothy types that lurk here. So I put the warning up there. Great reading, Helen Keller. But, I assume you charged in anyway, which I am guilty of in the past.

If you got the general message, which you missed, you just read the first few sentences, saw the quote about me complaining about the pentagram, and jumped to conclusions: it's that I met a bunch of people that I personally didn't like. If you wantto bang them just by hearing about them, fine by me. I am just posting my reaction and the humorous actions that were undertaken to get away from them.

3. What was that about white collars and child molesters? What was that about being a master of bigotry and stereotyping?

[DeepStrikeck]

What was that with combining Catholics and Protestants? I don't generalize goths so don't generalize Christians. (Us Protestans believe in letting our pastors marry.)

[AztecWarrior]

What was that with combining Catholism and Protestants? I don't generalize goths so don't generalize Christians.
This has nothing to do with anything.

[Lonehunter]

Cliff Notes Version, for the people in PSU that are special: Al Gore invented the internet, do you really trust him for dating?

Goths need not read this post.

The full version:

First of all, I like to think I am an ordinary, meat-and-potatoes gamer kid. I don't wear gothy clothes, don't wear message shirts, I like Jesus, conservative, 16 years old, etc.

Another friend, an Italian/Cuban who has lost all vestiges of heritage and is really white (literally, he's pale from nonexposure to the sun) who goes by Dark Valor on the internet, is the same, minus Jesus. We're pretty similar, except he wears more black. And he owes me $3.25.

My third friend, a Brazilian-born, Germanic-heritage Brazilian/German nationalist kid who listens to stuff like Godsmack, i.e. modern alt rock, or nu rock, or whatever you call it, is also pretty much the same.

We're all gamers.

The third guy, whom we shall call PJ, had the most excellent idea of having us go to the mall at Sunset Place: Gameworks, and then see a movie. With "some chicks he met online." That's all he really knew except that one was "busted". The movie we were going to see, Finding Neverland, is horrible, and Dark Valor simply planned to skip it.

So, we did this today, Saturday.

Gameworks, for people like Rbstr who live in the cornbelt and don't know this, is similar to places like Dave and Buster's, or pretty much massive arcades with a bar, pool hall, etc. We go there, have some fun playing Time Crisis and the game with the riot shield + submachinegun, until we exhaust our funds. We buy some Cokes (for you picky types, it was Coca-Cola. I don't cal soda "Coke".), and soon it comes the time to meet the girls.

Children, the internet isn't WYSIWIG.

They weren't 40 year old rapists or anything, they can best be described as goths that weren't wearing chains, capes, black clothes, and body piercings that day. Or goths that hadn't bought into the consumerist, Hot Topic-speared culture yet. We met them in Virgin Records reading a Playboy book on how to be a bad girl.

It was probably the most incompatible thing short of matching a *** with a Nazi.

There were three of them and one brought their boyfriend- thanks for the heads-up, Weeping Raven. One had a maroon blouse with a pentagram neckalce over it (immediately sounding the WARNING: This Person Is Evil alarm in my head), the other wore a T-shirt with Elmo on it, the kind of satirical T you find at Hot Topic, and the other had ...fuck, I don't remember. The boyfriend had a black sweater and jeans- completely out of climate, but he just had to look gothy and moody. There is no winter in Miami. Ever. In the fall, a shirt and jeans is stretching it.

It became immediately apparent to me on first sight that these people did not intend to see Finding Neverland, a movie about a guy who makes the play called Peter Pan.

Of course, the first place they went to was Hot Topic. At no point in time did they try to talk with us, or vice-versa: we believe that Hot Topic is a shithole that deserves to be burned down, with its $7 shoelaces, "look-at-me-I'm-wearing-almost-as-much-metal-on-my-jeans-as-in-my-piercings" black baggy pants, or Che Guevara T-shirts. Two of them were completely wild and looked about everything in the time it takes for you to read this sentence. We pretended to be amused- there were a few shirts that were funny. There was one from Office Space, another that says "I *glove* MJ", and one making a reference to Compton. But that's IT.

At that point, Valor was considering making a break for it.

The group sepearated shortly after, as the two girls with AD/HD ran amok, looking for clothing stores. We followed them. Eventually, they came to the 2nd floor and we passed by a pretzel place. Valor got a pretzel. I had a crazy idea.

"Do you see them?" I asked, humorously, while also giving that invisible nudge that I was using it as an excuse to get the fuck out of there.

They had actually lost us.

"Uhh...no." They agreed.

So we went into AMC Theatres and watched Saw, which was an OK movie. Alone.

Basically, I will never trust PJ again to set up any possible outings involving members of the opposite sex.

Now, I've probably inadequately described the incident and you are thinking "BLOLOLOLOL U SUCK AT LYFE." I will restate this again: they embrace goth culture but don't yet dress like it, though they clearly want to. I also forgot to tell you that they were looking at the tatoo kiosk.

This trendy crap, I hate it. If you buy into a mindless culture that tells you what is cool, I have no respect for you at all.

Valor put it best: "There are 90% of chicks who are bad: rap, pop, or goth. There are the 10% who aren't. We are supposed to find that 10%."
All I have to say is,

You didn't think Saw was awesome? damn...


Edit: but on the topic of Stereotyping, my Dad has several Tattoos, rides a Harley, has a goatee, and drives a 69 Corvette. You'd never guess what he does for a living.

[ObnoxiousFrog]

1. From the sounds of things, you really like Christians- do you want to hang out with ultrareligous people?

I reserve the right to hang out with who I want to. Mindless teens who shop at HT just don't hit the right nerves. The pentagram only added on to the effect, my friends had the same reaction without seeing it.

2. I knew this post would also inflame some of you semi-gothy types that lurk here. So I put the warning up there. Great reading, Helen Keller. But, I assume you charged in anyway, which I am guilty of in the past.

If you got the general message, which you missed, you just read the first few sentences, saw the quote about me complaining about the pentagram, and jumped to conclusions: it's that I met a bunch of people that I personally didn't like. If you wantto bang them just by hearing about them, fine by me. I am just posting my reaction and the humorous actions that were undertaken to get away from them.

3. What was that about white collars and child molesters? What was that about being a master of bigotry and stereotyping?



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[AztecWarrior]

All I have to say is,

You didn't think Saw was awesome? damn...
It was OK. I was entertained but I wouldn't recommend it- it's not really special or anything.

[JetRaiden]

its ok to stereotypic goths because theyre all attention whoring angsty ******* who have no problem projecting every feeling in their body in their stupid livejournals.

sorry.

[oddfish]

i dated a quasi-goth chick for about a week. she was a freak in more ways than one. i'll leave that to your imagination.

now, as far as blind dates are concerned... Aztez, buddy, never EVER go on blind dates. EVER. they're bad. very bad. there are millions of other ways to meet people of the opposite sex (or same, if that's your thing)... trust me on that.

[Rbstr]

And only the Allies made the swastika out to be an evil symbol :rolleyes:
Thing is (s)he's right.(did i miss the thread were we discovered the truth?)

[JetRaiden]

Thing is (s)he's right.(did i miss the thread were we discovered the truth?)

yes. she's extremely hot.


and I agree with oddfish, even if my best friend set me up on a blind date, I doubt I would go on it. Taste in women can often be subconcious, and some people's ideas of hot are entirely different from others. very few women are universally hot (this standard of "hot" is a 5/5).

[1024]

I'm sick of not liking people because they like something that i don't. Whatever makes them happy.

[oddfish]

I'm sick of not liking people because they like something that i don't. Whatever makes them happy.

i think i just fell in love with 1024 all over again. my philosophy exactly. life's too short to bicker over other people's likes and dislikes. it's whatever, y'know? do what you like :nod:

[1024]

Yes, it's a new way of looking at things for me...Still having some problems getting people that were used to the way i used to act to realize that i've changed my attitude.

/me shrugs

Whatever.

[oddfish]

Yes, it's a new way of looking at things for me...Still having some problems getting people that were used to the way i used to act to realize that i've changed my attitude.

/me shrugs

Whatever.

;) you'll like it better this way in the long run.. trust me.

[Mr1337Duck]

Ich mache auch. Dankgott f�r freetranslations. jetzt ich kann die Illusion schaffen die ich gut bin gelesen und bin einen mannigfaltigen kulturellen Hintergrund gehabt.


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