Satanists are coming to kill your family

[TotalBiscuit]

This is a newletter that St. Mary's church in Colorado Springs sent
out this week...
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" If Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord! Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may have gone astray from the Lord.

Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous
culture that young teenagers are prone to
participating in. The gothic culture leads young,
susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil,
darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate
attention through counselling, prayer, and parental
guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if
five or more of the following are applicable to your
child
:-Frequently wears black clothing.
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed
crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.
-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against the
Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.
-Shows an increasing interest in
death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or
anything else that involves Satan. -Takes drugs.
-Drinks alcohol. -Is suicidal and/or depressed. -Cuts,
burns or partakes in any other method of
self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses
pain to detract from the light of God and His love.
Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.)
-Complains of boredom.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake
during the night.
-Dislikes sunlight or any other form
of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the
idea that His light is of no use.)
-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
-Spends large amounts of time alone.
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. -Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a
few examples of this.
-Misbehaves at school.
-Misbehaves at home.
-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this.
-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your
child may watch.)
-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music. -Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates
-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include:
Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca,
Hinduism and Buddhism.
-Wears pins, stickers or
anything else that contains these various phrases:
"I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
-Claims to be a goth.If five or more of these apply to
your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic
culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If
any of these problems persist, enlist your child into
your local mental health center. ~St. Mary's Catholic
Church "

A phrase springs to mind. 'I've got no problem with God, it's just his fan club I can't stand'

TB.

[Setari]

i thought goths were just pale attention whores who choose to be angry at their parents often for no reason.

also many of these points are baseless and have nothing to do with goth people and are just ignorant.

[TotalBiscuit]

What really gets me is the dangerous cult remark aimed at philosophy, hinduism and buddism.

TB.

[Fragmatic]

violently shakes head to music

http://img56.exs.cx/img56/451/addrock6mn.gif

[Hydralisk]

These pertain to me out of that list, however I am probably the farthest person from gothic you could ever hope to find, seriously.
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-Complains of boredom.
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake
during the night.
-violently shakes head to music.
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult. -Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a
few examples of this.
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates


Thats 9... Oh shit =[

[Rbstr]

The real question is how many people truly belive this kid of stuff.

[Liquidtide]

"Expresses an interest in sex"

Shit an I never thought I was a goth?!?

[ObnoxiousFrog]

I wear light blue button up shirts, khakis and sensible loafers, part my hair and listen to steven curtis chapman, yet every night i sacrifice a virgin 8 year old girl to any nameless god and lie naked in her blood.

What am I?

[MrPaul]

That's not serious right?
(No "Thankyou, Sherlock! remarks please.)

I used to be semi - gothic. 'til I realised I looked a right and utter cunt.

[DaShiznit]

I've got, like, half of those (but none of the goth ones). And I'm curious as to when Buddhism became a "Dangerous Cult Religion". Asshats.

[Mr1337Duck]

:-Frequently wears black clothing.
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Not gothic, but I do listen to rock, and to these folks that must count.)
-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.
-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports. (I kinda do, but not really. I'm not overly religious, but I consider myself a Christian, and screw sports, sports suck.)
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake
during the night.
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.
-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
-Violently shakes head to music.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates


Holy god, I have 13 of 'em! I'm a depressive goth loser, someone help me. Nevermind that I think goths are whiny antisocial jackasses like my brother, nevermind that I'm Christian, nevermind that I'm a conservative (you ever seen a conservative goth? Probably not. Maybe a few Hitler-worshippers, but they're stupid fucks anyway.), nevermind that I'm fairly respectful of people who don't get way on my bad side, and nevermind that normal people wear black clothes, too.

[MrPaul]

It reminds me of this (http://adequacy.org/public/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html).

[Lusence]

Dude im not goth. Im a prep rebel punk hardcore professional with some christain pagan blue collar white collar uncle whitey cracker.

[Sabinius]

A phrase springs to mind. 'I've got no problem with God, it's just his fan club I can't stand'
TB.

love it, hehe
and children are just trying to fit in, and are being retards why at it
friggin christians


expresses an interest in sex


SHNAP a natural thing that we're fucking BORN with
we're BORN so we can reproduce, thats how evolution made us

fucking retards, better convert every single FUCKING person on the
earth. And its also the only reason we're alive today. REPENT REPENT

[Lusence]

Ok im missing the point here. So your making fun of religion now? Hmmmm. Thats probally smart.
You relize the bible and religion is full of people like you. You have to actually be smart and read inbetween the lines and bullshit if you want to find the 'truth'.

You dont get heaven. You dont get hell. You dont get earth. You get nothing. Go ahead repent... Then go do it again. The hebrew preists murdered Jesus so you can live a life in sin, right?

You should actually read and study it before you dismiss it and the followers of such words. Reminds me of a story. A relegious one. http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/barabas.htm :confused:

[Bighoss]

Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of this...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Setari]

religion is whatever one wants it to be. thats why there's so many of them. not a single one is "right" or "wrong" theyre just different beliefs.

carry on.

[Lusence]

OMG my ears are bleeding! INTELLIGENCE! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :mad:

[Infernus]

Satanists? Coming to kill MY family?

[Ridetehlightnin]

Whoever made that list is really ignorant. I bet they don't even have any scientific evidence to back it up. I bet they were just sitting there and one came out wiht "Hey lets screw around all the people who like decent music, wear decent clothes, are intesreted in decent things and cant be arsed with our beliefs by tellin their parents that they are screwed up little sinner! THEN WE WILL BOIL SOME KITTENS IN A BIG POT AND EAT THEM!"

[ObnoxiousFrog]

I want to call shens, right now.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...
...
...
now.

[Sabinius]

Ok im missing the point here. So your making fun of religion now? Hmmmm. Thats probally smart.
You relize the bible and religion is full of people like you. You have to actually be smart and read inbetween the lines and bullshit if you want to find the 'truth'.

You dont get heaven. You dont get hell. You dont get earth. You get nothing. Go ahead repent... Then go do it again. The hebrew preists murdered Jesus so you can live a life in sin, right?

You should actually read and study it before you dismiss it and the followers of such words. Reminds me of a story. A relegious one. http://www.keyway.ca/htm2002/barabas.htm :confused:

interesting.. |I guess I never bothered reading the bible, but with all these
crazy catholic conservative bitchs everywhere, it seems like a bad thing to get into

EDIT: why does everyone keep telling me jesus died for my sins?
jesus dieing did nothing for me

[Ridetehlightnin]

why does everyone keep telling me jesus died for my sins?
jesus dieing did nothing for me

That confuses me. Someone explain how it makes sense - some guy died for someones sins?

[DaShiznit]

It reminds me of this (http://adequacy.org/public/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html).
Ha ha. That guy for teh lose.

EDIT: Wait, that site's a joke, right?

[AztecWarrior]

I mean, come on, why profess what your religion says? Let's all go atheist for a week! The world will be a better place.

[DaShiznit]

Forget atheism, let's all be freaking close-minded bigoted idiots instead!

[AztecWarrior]

Forget atheism, let's all be freaking close-minded bigoted idiots instead!
They appear to be the same thing.

[Giovanni]

They appear to be the same thing.

Woah there buddy, back up.

Sure, alot of atheists bash religion but who's the most closed minded? The one who calls everything the spawn of Satan? Or the atheist's that call the multiple religions on their non-sense?

[AztecWarrior]

You can play holier-than-thou, or you can sit back and be what you want to be.

Fact is, Christians rebuke Satan, period. It is an intrinsic property of the religion. That exact line, "Do you rebuke Satan", appears many times in the church practices.

If being goth is the same thing as being Satanic, then away with it!

But, after all, that's being closed minded.

[Wraithlord]

-Masturbates

well fuck, I guess Im a satanist



oh and I dont believe that the christian god is the only god, real perhaps, but not the only god.

[DaShiznit]

God, you people just don't get it, do you? Statanism isn't about worshiping evil, it's about pissing off Christians. Look at the root of the word "Satan". It means "The antithisis" (sp?) or "The one who opposes". Satanists are called that not because they're dedicated to evil, instead, they use it to signify their opposition to established religion.

[Wraithlord]

God, you people just don't get it, do you? Statanism isn't about worshiping evil, it's about pissing off Christians. Look at the root of the word "Satan". It means "The antithisis" (sp?) or "The one who opposes". Satanists are called that not because they're dedicated to evil, instead, they use it to signify their opposition to established religion.

thats deep, real deep, explain to me why this little batch of satan worshipers at my city college routinely eviscerate small animals and hang them by their entrails , still alive mind you, in front of the school office? How exactly is that opposition to established religion, and not just evil and wrong?

[DaShiznit]

thats deep, real deep, explain to me why this little batch of satan worshipers at my city college routinely eviscerate small animals and hang them by their entrails , still alive mind you, in front of the school office? How exactly is that opposition to established religion, and not just evil and wrong?
There are Christians who lynch and murder blacks. There are Muslims who crash planes into buildings. There are Hindus who will slice every tendon in your body. I'm not saying Satanism is a good religion, no, it's self-proclaimed to be greedy and self-centered. But every religion has its extremeists.

[Mr1337Duck]

Here's what I'll say on the Christians vs. Atheists thing.

Christians:
They talk about converting by example. Do it. If a religion is well known because its' members are kind and loving people, more folks will convert to it.

Athiests:
Get past the "big scary Christians" thing. Not every Christian is a televangelist. Calm down, we're not all looking to harass the crap out of you to try and convert you. There's a whole lotta atheists I've seen that have this unnatural hatred of the concept that other folks have a religion. I'm not saying that there aren't Christians like that with other religions, but I notice it a LOT in the atheist community.



Just leave eachother alone is what I'm saying. Just stay off the subject. When atheists and religious folks get into arguments, all it causes is a lot of hurt feelings.

[Pilgrim]

Hmmm

That's in my home town, I know right where St. Mary's is....

Perhaps I should drop by and see if this is real! I'll actually be in that area picking up my wedding album tomorow! Very tempting

As to what it says,

Unfortunately some parents are way out of touch with what their children are doing. A flyer of this sort, while misguided and exagerated, is none the less the type of tool parents need to educate themselves on what their kiddos are doing and what it may mean.

While I in no way think most of this is applicable in any meaningful way to the actual Stan/anti-satan stance of the child, it is a way that parents can understand some of the things their zaney little food bags are doing.

[Lusence]

God, you people just don't get it, do you? Statanism isn't about worshiping evil, it's about pissing off Christians. Look at the root of the word "Satan". It means "The antithisis" (sp?) or "The one who opposes". Satanists are called that not because they're dedicated to evil, instead, they use it to signify their opposition to established religion.

Actually Satan was origionally a prosocuting attorney of sorts. He would come to earth and then like tally up all the bad shit and then on judgement day he presents the case to god to try and condem your ass.

Now a "satanist" are christians red headed step child. The truly worship the bible, just the parts that say they oppose god. So even they are following religion and are christians. Well i wouldnt say christians just cause, they are like the anit-christian christians.

[Lusence]

every religion has a peice of a puzzle. you can make any picture you would like...

[Wraithlord]

I dislike christians simply because everytime I hear someone say something like "my grandma didnt die from cancer because jesus answered our prayers" it makes me have a headache from trying to comprehend how these people can disregard the $40,000 they spent on treating said grandmother, the medical professionals who actually did the saving, and the fact that "jesus" decided to save their 90 year old grandmother who was a chain smoking heavy drinker, and nearly a vegtable from alzheimers, and NOT the 12 year old victim of a drunk driving accident.

And when they say "god works in mysterious ways" I want to smack them.

[Ridetehlightnin]

Hah. Damn straight. Damn Christians strolling around like they own teh place! Fact to all of you: Religion is fictional. Religion was created by man, like a novel or a TV Programme. It is so obvious, yet 1,000,000+ people actually waste their lives for it :-\

[DaShiznit]

"god works in mysterious ways"
Read: "A bunch of bad shit just wen't down which totally flies in the face of everything we've taught you so we're just gonna make some crap up about Jesus and call it good."

[starbum]

A must watch: Dogma

Explains everything. I agree with a ton of the things they talk about and bring up. Sure, there a comedic presentation, but there is an underlying message about everything. Listen to the ideas. :)

[DaShiznit]

But don't watch it on Comedy Central, because they take out all the good stuff like the shit demon.

[Lusence]

just try to show a little respect. religion is just a respect to a way of thinking. a spiritual way of thinking. christians belive the christ was of god and have faith in the those words. christ was part of something bigger than them. and they find themselves in giving to the greater cause so to speak. spirituality is never a bad thing. hate is. :evil:

[MrPaul]

spirituality (by this i assume you mean religion - in the context n all) is never a bad thing. hate is. :evil:
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that. What are most of the worlds conflicts about? Three things, Land, Power, Religion. I'd say religion is the biggest one of those three.
"Beliefs are bad, Ideas are good, no-one ever died for an idea" - Dogma.
It's true. No-one has ever died for an idea. If you can prove me wrong, I'll admit I'm incorrect, but it's very hard to do so. Beliefs; in many shapes and sizes, but the most associated must be religion. Anyway; religion must be the biggest underlying people have been killed in the last ... 3000 years.

Hate, a bad thing? If we didn't hate things, we wouldn't invent new things to replace them etc. To quote a Honda advert:
Here's a song for anyone
who's ever hated...
in the key of Grrr...

Can hate be good? Can hate be great?
Can hate be good? Can hate be great?
Can hate be something we don't hate?

Hate something. Change something.
Hate something, change something,
make something better-r-r-r

Umm yeah, I guess you have to see it.

[Lusence]

Wow...
Um LOL JESUS died for an idea you asshole. :lol:

[dm_cowsfromhell]

So i take it theyll be wanting me to repent for my lil avatar thingie now?

[Giovanni]

Wow...
Um LOL JESUS died for an idea you asshole. :lol:

Not for an idea dumbass! FROM AN IDEA!

[Ivan]

I'm totally into Satan, Spine Piercing, and clogging.

Name where that quote is from!

Yes I didn't read this thread or even the whole first post. Because I know it's probably some time of flame war by now...

[Smaug]

This is why there needs to be a religion debate forum.

[JetRaiden]

This is why there needs to be a religion debate forum.


No. We don't have enough ****. ;)

[EarlyDawn]

They appear to be the same thing.Interesting. Then again, WE didn't start the crusades.

[JetRaiden]

-Drinks alcohol
-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake
during the night.
-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.
-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.
-Expresses an interest in sex.
-Masturbates


Shit, I'm fucked.



Those people are retards. How can they describe goths with NO mentions of emo music or hot topic whatsoever?

And eating "goth food"? Count Chocola isnt goth! He's wholesome!


edit: Expressing interest in sex isnt a goth thing by any means. EVERYONE IS INTERESTED IN SEX

[Mr1337Duck]

Not castratos. They ain't too into it.

[MattxMosh]

So whats this thread about again?

[Smaug]

So whats this thread about again?

Murdering infidels.

[MrPaul]

Wow...
Um LOL JESUS died for an idea you asshole. :lol:
He died for his (and others) beliefs. :doh:

[JetRaiden]

He died for his (and others) beliefs. :doh:

beliefs = ideas :D

[Infernus]

Shit, I'm fucked.

Yeah... I'm quite screwed too...


I blame moses... or something.

[MrPaul]

beliefs = ideas :D
Idea: I might be the son of God...
Belief: I am the son of God.

In my opinion a belief couldn't be further from an idea.

[JetRaiden]

Idea: I might be the son of God...
Belief: I am the son of God.

In my opinion a belief couldn't be further from an idea.

you define idea as a prediction.

your ideology=your beliefs, does it not?

dying for an idea isn't like jesus said "hay guys! I think I'm the son of god or something! Wanna follow me around?"

i-de-a
n.
1. Something, such as a thought or conception, that potentially or actually exists in the mind as a product of mental activity.
2. An opinion, conviction, or principle: has some strange political ideas.
3. A plan, scheme, or method.
4. The gist of a specific situation; significance: The idea is to finish the project under budget.
5. A notion; a fancy.

[MrPaul]

What I'm trying to say is that people die because they believe in their ideas.
[definition of idea from above]
All but one of them is mental. If it's in the mind, as a thought, how can you be presecuted about it?