the dharkbayne manifesto.

[Mag]

The below is all written by banned forum member "Dharkbayne".


First off, Yes, Netarun is Dhark.
You shouldn't base your actions on that, though,
because you didn't know that at the time of the ban, or any time until now.

All I did was hold a small experiment, to see if the moderation of PSU *was* really
killing the forums, and yes, it is.

None of these problems would have happened if

A. You had a FAQ intricatly describing *ALL OF THE RULES*, not just some and having "unwritten" rules that you're
supposed to "pick up on", since newbies obviously would not pick up on these right away. This also removes room to argue, because you can just say "Read the fucking FAQ you retard. You broke a rule, you should've read it.

B. Had sent a warning to Netarun via PM, because he would have no idea what rules he had broken.

C. Actually utilized the 3 strike rule. You shouldn't just randomly use a rule, because that makes moderation confusing.
You should list reasons that cause the 3 strike rule to go into effect, and what means a permaban,
instead of seemingly doing it random, or just always use the 3 strike rule.

D. Have a list of bans, and the reason like they were banned, who banned them, a link to the posts that caused the ban, and when. SomethingAwful has a good example of this, which you can see here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php , because if people don't know WHY they were banned, how do they know what rules they are breaking?

E. Not practice elitist moderation. This means that trolls like Squeeky should be outright banned for shit like that. The thread that netarun posted had a good cause, was not spam, and wasn't breaking any rules at the time of the posting.

F. Stop fucking IP banning me. It's not gonna stop me, I can change my IP, or if I'm lazy, I can use a proxy. All it does is waste my time.

G. Stop with all the "Worship me or you're banned" stuff. Even jokingly, it scares newbies. All it does is promote a sense of fear. People should not have to fear the admin unless they're breaking rules. This doesn't mean insults toward the staff shouldn't be bannable.
There's a difference between arguing with someone's decision and just being a dick.

H. Ban AOL speak, and shitty grammar. It'd create a much cleaner and easier to read forum.

I. Ban 1 smiley/1 word replies. They don't add anything to the conversation, and they're just spam.

J. Actually ban spammers and idiots. You don't. You ban the wrong people half the time.

I. Ban the [tags], they're stupid looking.

If you did those, said forums would be much cleaner and nicer places to be in. But I know you won't because you could never agree with anything "that troll x 500" says, because you have a superiority complex and are the most stubborn person I have ever seen.

[Doop]

...well said, Dhark.

Hamma, you may have banned Dhark but you have to realize he is right about a few things. A few. Because he's banned doesn't mean you shouldn't take his suggestions - i think it's most important to listen to people who have been banned.

I understand it's your forum and if we don't like it we can beat it but that isn't a final excuse. We should ease up a bit. And I mean everyone, including me.

[Squeeky]

1. Dharkbayne was banned. He's had plenty of people post stupid shit like this for him, it's getting old.

2. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. netarun = dharkbayne.
3. PSU != SA. Stop trying to make it that way, especially from the grave Dhark. :lol:

Idiots :rolleyes:

[Mag]

You are truely the one shining beam of light in PSU Squeeky.

By the way, Dhark never told you he was netarun. You had no fucking clue.

Besides, I'd rather have PSU be SA than Genmay.

[Electrofreak]

Why did PSU have to degrade to this? I hate you all.

[Squeeky]

Well thanks snickerdoodle :)

Dhark never told you he was netarun. You had no fucking clue.

Oh, i'm sure. It was a completely random shot in the dark. :lol:

(12:52:16) BalognaChicken: rofl, well my ip changes so he can keep trying. and if you havent figured it out, im netarun

[Infernus]

ALL HAIL THE MANIFESTO


Since it makes an extreme ammount of sense.

[xmodum]

I agree with the changes, and Squeeky, you're a douche, go get drunk or something and die.
<3

[Squeeky]

I agree with the changes, and Squeeky, you're a douche, go get drunk or something and die.
<3

HOLY SHIT U FLAMED ME, MODZ PLZ DELETE HIS POST AND BAN HIM FOR ETERNITY!!11

[AztecWarrior]

In before the delete.

[Infernus]

Well thanks snickerdoodle :)



Oh, i'm sure. It was a completely random shot in the dark. :lol:

(12:52:16) BalognaChicken: rofl, well my ip changes so he can keep trying. and if you havent figured it out, im netarun


[Wednesday 12.29.2004|17:25:36] INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS: no
[Wednesday 12.29.2004|17:25:39] INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS: he was just guessing
[Wednesday 12.29.2004|17:25:54] INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS: I told him he was a dick for being a jerk on that thread, but I never actually said I was netarun


are you sure?

[Octavian]

I most wholeheartedly agree, but I must say it took you a while to figure it out.

[Squeeky]

are you sure?

Yes i'm sure. I'm tired of arguing with you guys. It's my word against his, I said it was him yesterday, and BAM! All of a sudden he says it's him, and now you guys think that me knowing was some kind of psychic ability. :rolleyes:

[Doop]

Who the hell cares who predicted what, this isn't what the thread was made for.

[AztecWarrior]

In before the delete.
By no means am I anti-drama discussing, but Hamma is threatening to shut down PSU. Bear this in mind.

[xmodum]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/xmodum/Forum%20Pics/deargod_stop.jpg

[Squeeky]

Peace out.

[Infernus]

[Hezzy] says: (12:52:16) BalognaChicken: rofl, well my ip changes so he can keep trying. and if you havent figured it out, im netarun

[Hezzy] says:
when was that

INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS says:
fake

INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS says:
I never said that

INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS says:
Notice the "im"

INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS says:
I never say "im"

INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS says:
I'm I'm I'm

INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS says:
and I would've capitalized the and

INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS says:
and my ip doesn't change, I change my IP

INTERNET GORDON FREEMAN - SERIOUS BUSINESS says: He's a shitty forger

[Mag]

Peace out.
:wave:

[ViperGTS]

God this sucks...

[Corrosion]

Wait, Squeeky left?

[I Hate Pants]

Man! You Bohica guys are fucking gay! You complain about us humping Hamma's leg and here you all are humping Dhark's leg.

I can only imagine Dhark is getting a serious kick outta all of this.

But to be honest here. I think alot of you don't have anything against PSU or Hamma. Your all just jumping the band wagon and joining up with Bohica. Because you guys still wanna be cool on the forums.

Dharkbayne was banned 4 times before actually getting banned for good. And alot of you guys said Hamma waited to long to do it. Now you guys defend Dhark and complain about him getting banned?

Whatever... im out of here.

[Octavian]

By no means am I anti-drama discussing, but Hamma is threatening to shut down PSU. Bear this in mind.
Link?

[Biohazzard56]

This forum is a gawd awful mess, Hamma should Domain IP Ban Dharkie so he never sees or reads anything PSU ever again. He purposely created a new identify only to create a thread to start shit again. Dharkbayne is one of those people who will never learn, if he didnt come back then all of this shit wouldnt have been started.

[Giovanni]

if he didnt come back then all of this shit wouldnt have been started.

Wanna fucking bet? Squeeky is still present and troll's enough for more then half of the community. Say something he doesnt like in his thread? He insults you, but god forbid we should insult him, the ban stick always seems to fall on the others and never Squeeky, when he does get banned he comes back because he made a funny video that reached these forums. He should have stayed banned in my opinion and alot of the shit that happened would have happened.

For once Hamma, listen to Dhark. He makes alot of sense when he's not goofing off and I should know I have him on my MSN.

Oh and before someone calls me a BOHICA lacky. Fuck off, I'm not in BOHICA and I'm not the most liked person over there.

All in all what Dhark has stated should be done, these forums are falling apart because of the moron's that live in it's closet. That and Hamma should really get a/some co-Admins, the weight of a whole community is nothing a single man can stand.

[DaShiznit]

If it wasn't so damned long, I'd QFT that thousands of times.

[Darksim]

These forums are pretyt fucking stupid.
Now, out of all the people that left I would only miss af ew. I miss Firecrackernc, because he is fuckign funny, and you guys are "Oh, you cant spell right. Pish pish posh. This bafoon shalt not represent us."

and then you flame him, while sqeeky is making threads about THE SAME SHIT and oyu guys are like OMG SQUEEKY YOUR SO FUNNNNNY

[Angel_of_Death]

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha /maniacal laugh

PSU split in two.

But by all means, cue the apocalypse.

[Indecisive]

someone drop a nuke on the data center already.

[Jennyboo]

Like Hamma said once the funds are gone no more PSU. The you can all move on and find a better communtiy though I doubt you'll find one like this. Im very upset at how the community has turned on the creator of this site and shown little respect. This is probably the best time for PSU to go down seeing how there is no faith in the person who worked so hard to keep it where it is. Many of you have lost my respect. :( it's sad i thought may of you would be friends for life.

[OfaLoaf]

No matter what, the vitality of PSU is dependant upon the game it is named after, which is also in decline. I wouldn't place the blame of this decline on Dharkbayne, Bohica, n00bs, Squeeky, or elitism. This is just the result of time. Everything eventually falls. Look at that site that made fun of TG. They're dead now. Everything's got to die eventually, sadly PSU's time is near.


What'll happen to the PSU hosted websites?

[Hamma]

This thread just continues to prove how much of an asshat Dhark is, I was 98% sure it was him when I heard what was going on. He has to keep coming back here to prove himself or something, this is probably one of the many times he has returned. Fact still remains he is banned, he has been banned and he will continue to be banned. He can hold as many of his little expiriments as he wants, fact remains he is still fucking banned. User moderation is back on again so asshats no longer get instant gratification. When someone has such a low attention span if they have to wait a day or so to post they will give up.

Oh, and I am sure Dhark knows quite a bit about moderating a forum with 9000 members, you should all worship and listen to him. The moderation team and the admin know nothing about doing this stuff at all.

[Hamma]

Oh and by the way I would slit my wrists before I even considered listening to Dharkbayne. Like Jenny said, the site is in decline and I have lost respect for many in this community. Enjoy it while it lasts, the final day is Jan 31 2005.

[Majik]

Enjoy it while it lasts, the final day is Jan 31 2005.

Did I miss a PSU is closing announcement?

[Doop]

This fucking sucks...

Hamma, I'm sorry to hear about all of that and I definately sympathize, and right now I'm really goddamn steamed at Dhark, he kept avoiding IP ban just to tear PSU down...

I'll miss PSU, let's make this last month worth it.

[Glaynor]

I've stayed out of the arguments and have seen all of what is going on but I feel that I must be a few comments here.

Congrats Dhark - you have successfully brought your trolling and asshole self to new levels. Although he said that he made an "innocent" post it was clearly done in a manner to cause friction.

He started all of this drama, and I'm s ure he is loving this every minute.

I've been on since the start of this website and have found the people involved to be some of the nicest i've seen. Although I do not post as much as others, I feel that I've gotten to now all of you through your postings. I for one will miss this site, as it is the only one that I check many times a day.

However, nobody shows Hamma and the community the respect that it deserves. All the people that have been banned deserved the ban. Dhark, above all. Squeeky also deserved the ban that he received, and I was one of the people against his return. However, he has proven himself to be a much more mature person since his return. Yes, he does engage in flame wars with some, but on most occassions (I think everyone one) another person instigates it. Squeeky does not deserve a ban.

I can't blame Hamma for closing down the site. I don't know how he lasted so long. It is tiring to see the little cliques that have developed, which are centered around assholes who like to create drama. Dhark and the others create havoc for the sake of creating havoc. They make posts to elicit responses that are flaming in nature and that is immaturity at its highest degree.

All those defending dhark, I am tired of his shit and I am tired of those who are defending his bullshit. Goodbye and good riddance to you all. Go troll someplace else.

[Hamma]

:love:

[Red October]

Partial Quote:


However, nobody shows Hamma and the community the respect that it deserves. All the people that have been banned deserved the ban. Dhark, above all. Squeeky also deserved the ban that he received, and I was one of the people against his return. However, he has proven himself to be a much more mature person since his return. Yes, he does engage in flame wars with some, but on most occassions (I think everyone one) another person instigates it. Squeeky does not deserve a ban.

I can't blame Hamma for closing down the site. I don't know how he lasted so long. It is tiring to see the little cliques that have developed, which are centered around assholes who like to create drama. Dhark and the others create havoc for the sake of creating havoc. They make posts to elicit responses that are flaming in nature and that is immaturity at its highest degree.

The Lawyer has spoken. Now for PSU's Economist, me....

I used to whore around a bit on a wrestling web-site called Ultimo...well interest in wrestling waned and the people in charge of the forum eventually go tired of the drama and weren't interested in wrestling anymore themselves...and thus shut down the site. Sound familiar? Another site was started for those who wanted to continue...I joined that one, as my interest in wrestling was not completly gone. However it wasn't long before I just had enough of seeing HHH on my TV screen and got tired of the "game". I posted even less and checked in about every 3 weeks. Well, even that site ended.

So why did I tell that story? Because I see the exact same elements there, are in here. You have some who have been around for some time, but over time, they have become ass hats. They feel they are entitled, some push the limits, thier influence, etc. and the end result is what we have here today. Much could have been avoided by simply following a simple rule....

Don't respond to Troll's or members who have evolved into Trolls.

If everyone just ignores the user, that user will go away. However, thier are some who are compulsive and cannot for the life of them let go. So they attack and flame..and play right into the hand and intention of the Troll. So who is the bafoon at this point? Mission accomplished by the Troll, he gets his jollys and brings down the community.

As for the site shutting down? Well, bound to happen. This site survive's on donations...and that's deadly in my opinion. Donation or not, some people who pay may feel they are entitled and are above some rules. Plus, Hamma put this together for fun, not as a job. When its no longer fun, then why continue to do it? Give it to someone else? Why? They are going to re-make anything you have done into thier own image and that may not sit well.

Bottom line, the site is going and NO, you are not entitled to it. You don't own corprate shares of it. If you still feel that way, there's a book called "Who moved my cheese". Suggest you read it.

...well thats my two real cents worth...

[Hydralisk]

Enjoy it while it lasts, the final day is Jan 31 2005.
:tear: :tear: :tear: :tear: :tear:
I cannot believe this. Did you just decide this or is this just a result of financial issues. I guess I'll be finding a new home page.:( I'll buy it from you. My mommy can pay for it! Seriously, I don't post much, but I have my lurk at least 3-4 hours total a day. Yes, I am a complete loser. The drama adds some fun to it, but I agree that it is a bit excessive right now.

[DaShiznit]

Believe me, we're all hurt.

[Mag]

Alright, seeing as I'm pretty much responsible for this, thread over guys. Dhark isn't here, no need to praise or bitch about him. I'll stop relaying stuff.

[AztecWarrior]

Like Hamma said once the funds are gone no more PSU. The you can all move on and find a better communtiy though I doubt you'll find one like this. Im very upset at how the community has turned on the creator of this site and shown little respect. This is probably the best time for PSU to go down seeing how there is no faith in the person who worked so hard to keep it where it is. Many of you have lost my respect. :( it's sad i thought may of you would be friends for life.
I never said anything.