How to Stop the VS MAX Horde

[GreyFlcn]

http://www.greyfalcon.net/av3.gif (Empire Population per Cert)

The Surplus of maxes is 7% of VS population
The ammount they're lacking in AV is 7% of VS population

So, it would appear that VS are picking up MAX units because they don't want to pick up Lancer.

That VS not certing Lancer is the root cause of the VS MAX Zerg

I'm sure many of you are going to hate this,
But the best way I can tell you to cut down on the number of MAXes Vanu have, is to change the Lancer

[Warborn]

I don't see why this is a problem, to be honest. I think it's a neat characteristic of the Vanu side, how there are so many of them with those jumping MAXs.

[Hamorad]

No, i believe the problem is that the vanu MAX is by far the best of the empires.

The lancer is also a tricky weapon to use. Unlike striker and somewhat the pheonix, the lancer takes a bit of practice to get used to.

[Jeffey]

doesnt everyone cry about TR maxes?

[Baneblade]

No the way to cut down the VS MAX problem is the Phoenix and the Striker.

[juggalokilla]

i can say that vs maxes do have the best special ability, nc have second best and tr have our immobile bullet hose targets. on the more positive side of that is tr and nc have best anti max outdoor weapons striker and pheonix which is where vs maxes jumpjets are used. i think it balances them out well. i have a vs with max and i cant stand the 'beep beep target lock' from strikers or the pop in your back from a pheonix some guys firing from inside his base 100m away. my dual cycler does not fear the lancer outside, they may get a hit or 2 off but theyre in plain sight to take out or hide from. balanced to me.

TR best AV on maxes / worst max ability

NC middle AV on maxes / middle max ability

VS worst AV on maxes / best max ability

[FatalLight]

I certed in MAX and AV today :D the VS MAX is awesome, the lancer I think could be better if they got rid of that power up delay, but other than that the lancer is really good too, I'd probably take a phoenix or striker over a lancer any day though

[Baneblade]

Well the Lancer can kill a MAX faster than a Decimator can...assuming you hit all 6 shots and the NC doesnt use his shield.

[juggalokilla]

i think striker takes around 6-7 shots on a full health max yet the clip is what 5 shots? been a while since i used them to say for sure. problem with the lancer is moving targets, you have to time the charge and lead, and your usually crouched making you a target, striker is good for mobility while firing, pheonix is for firing from safe positions. i would say they are damn accurate from a distance though whereas a striker is too far to lock on, your not hitting much in dumbfire mode. i guess its pretty circumstancial(sp?) also around bases, striker prefers locking on base turrets over stuff on catwalks wasting preciouse ammo.

[GreyFlcn]

Well the Lancer can kill a MAX faster than a Decimator can...assuming you hit all 6 shots and the NC doesnt use his shield.
Hah, more like 50% longer than a Deci can ;D

Even if you DO hit all of em, it doesn't mean much.

Back before the days of the Personal Shield buff,
and crazy HP incentives you used to be able to reliably down a Max with 6 shots.

Now, it's a very rare occurance.
If a MAX has even +1 of anything (HP/Shielding)
then you cannot kill it in one clip.
Thats assuming you can aim it close range to begin with.

Striker, you can run around and lock
Phoenix, you can play Decimator peakaboo

Lancer? You just sit there, and take the hits. Or dodge a bit and miss shots.
Often having a friendly step infront of you by the time the shot flys out.

For all practical purposes, Lancer is worse indoors than Striker or Phoenix.

[Lartnev]

I find mines an efficient way to stop MAX zergs ;)

[Lonehunter]

MCG, AP ammo, ReXo, P shield..... dead MAX Been do'in it for months

[GreyFlcn]

How about 'VS MAX Population Control' instead ;D

[Lartnev]

Much better, carry on ;)

[ZLaZ]

I use the Lancer everyday and I can tell you for certain, the Lancer is by far the best Anti-*VEHICULAR* weapon, it's not as good against maxes, but it is brutal against vehicles.
I gladly take the lancer over the others anyday of the week.

[Warborn]

I use the Lancer everyday and I can tell you for certain, the Lancer is by far the best Anti-*VEHICULAR* weapon, it's not as good against maxes, but it is brutal against vehicles.
I gladly take the lancer over the others anyday of the week.

Agreed. Big, slower targets are what the Lancer excels at taking on. The striker's rounds are too slow, and you often lose lock on because the vehicle is always moving around, and if a tree gets in your way, chances are your round will impact against the terrain when it's lock is broken for that fraction of a second. The lancer is way better at taking out the big stuff.

[KIAsan]

Lancer used to be a great Max sniper gun. Think they tweaked the COF bloom, so it's not so good anymore. My VS alt just needed a bolt drive and lancer to wreck long-range havoc.

[iluvthequasar]

quasar for teh win :thumbsup:

reason i decerted lancer is because it couldn't hold up the standard of a good AV weapon. Sure, one clip = nuked MAX, but theres no guidance what-so-ever, whenever you re-aim the gun the cone of fire expands. Sure it is the infantry AV gun, but spec assault's much better. leave the AV to the mags...

as far as the MAX stuff goes, i'm not certed in uni-max, just quasar. I didn't really use the comet when i was raising my char from the start with uni-max. starfire was teh pwnage. got from br6-br15 in one life, ran out of ammo twice, and finally died to a striker...

if you ask me, the best ways to stop MAX crashes are several blockades of troops with decis/phoenixes, or some AV MAXes of your own. If the option is presented, use a few reavers to take them out... TR with their anchored pounder will own MAXes easy... make sure you're hitting them at a bottleneck though, if they come in 2-3 directions, youre screwed.

(EDIT)
Also the way I got so many BRs in one life (without a pre-nerf BFR, even tho this happened way before bfrs came out) is because i was solo, and on top of ngaru on searhus. reavers tried to rocket me but they all died to my uber starfire. since they were coming from a hack on another base, they were alive for quite a while and merited 1000-1200 EXP each. by the time the foot troops got to the base i was owned by strikers.

[DeadTeddy]

um, I don't see a problem here. of course different empires will have different weapons, and you CAN'T expect them to be equal. as long as in the big picture each empire can hold it's own, there's no problem.