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BrioCyrain
2005-04-15, 04:31 AM
Who wants PlanetSide to have a new expansion, or that the should just redo the game, give some massive upgrades, and release a "PlanetSide 2".

I go with either.

DropShipEdward
2005-04-15, 05:22 AM
free expansions

Lartnev
2005-04-15, 07:49 AM
SOE don't do free expansions :p

Don't see the point of this petition btw :P~

steeldragon01
2005-04-15, 08:46 AM
Whatever is cheaper for me.

hex222
2005-04-15, 11:11 AM
just a big engine redo, with more realistic weapon types...

Mag-Mower
2005-04-15, 09:53 PM
just a big engine redo, with more realistic weapon types...
yea, but a huge fecking patch out there, make the game more stable, better graphics, better performance, that might be enough for me to come back too

Electrofreak
2005-04-16, 12:36 AM
well they're upgrading the PS engine to DX 9 over the next couple months, who knows what could happen.

Tigersmith
2005-04-16, 01:08 AM
Cant Wait!

Lonehunter
2005-04-16, 03:10 AM
Planetside: Perfection


Planetside: Perfection is a collection of new fixes that eliminates every bug encountered in Planetside. This collection of fixes has been long time coming and only offered to those willing to buy it for $49.99




^^^Maybe in 20 years^^^

BrioCyrain
2005-04-16, 08:39 AM
What about the factor of the next generation of gaming, with new graphics and stability and stuff, will Planetside confront this factor?!

Warborn
2005-04-16, 10:05 AM
What about the factor of the next generation of gaming, with new graphics and stability and stuff, will Planetside confront this factor?!

It's not a question of graphics, it's a question of competition. Unreal 3, for example, is not a MMOFPS last I checked. The fact that it looks a lot better than PS is thus really not an issue. Anyone who plays Planetside for graphics is really short-changing themselves. When a new MMOFPS is announced that has better graphics, then maybe people can start to wonder if PS is due for an overhaul (or if the new game is going to be too choppy to play because it looks too good).

Anyway, though, there will be more expansions before a sequel, if there ever is a sequel. Planetside isn't exactly a blockbuster hit. SOE may wish to simply release expansions until the popularity is too low and then pull the plug and not revisit the setting ever again, especially if, say, Blizzard comes out with a World of Starcraft or something.

BrioCyrain
2005-04-16, 11:38 AM
It's not a question of graphics, it's a question of competition. Unreal 3, for example, is not a MMOFPS last I checked. The fact that it looks a lot better than PS is thus really not an issue. Anyone who plays Planetside for graphics is really short-changing themselves. When a new MMOFPS is announced that has better graphics, then maybe people can start to wonder if PS is due for an overhaul (or if the new game is going to be too choppy to play because it looks too good).

Anyway, though, there will be more expansions before a sequel, if there ever is a sequel. Planetside isn't exactly a blockbuster hit. SOE may wish to simply release expansions until the popularity is too low and then pull the plug and not revisit the setting ever again, especially if, say, Blizzard comes out with a World of Starcraft or something.

guess your right in a way.

Firefly
2005-04-16, 04:29 PM
Instead of spending money making a new game, they can spend a bit of cash on marketing.

Kam
2005-04-17, 11:14 AM
I was going to say, I have NEVER seen any advertising for Planetside. I think they will just have to remake the game, the engine is shot.

Lartnev
2005-04-17, 12:09 PM
I've seen plenty of advertising myself, even a TV spot (which is rare for PC games here).

Also saw a bit of magazine advertising when aftershock came out.


I think if SOE were to make a PlanetSide 2 it would be so much better than the current PlanetSide. Not just graphically, but gameplay wise (many lessons will have been learned), technology wise and population wise (with any luck many more people will have broadband).

However... There isn't much wrong with the Planetside we have (BFRs aside :P~)

LimpBIT
2005-04-17, 01:27 PM
They need to remake the entire game and think about this one a little bit better. New factions, weapons, vehicles, and different styles of combat such as sea and space. This is what the year 215237432 and there is still no space combat? Come ON SOE this is what the gaming world has been waiting for. A good MMOFPS in SPACE!

Baneblade
2005-04-17, 01:29 PM
We should all be fighting with laser guns and hovertanks. Not just one empire.

Kam
2005-04-17, 03:18 PM
I want a dam navy and a real airforce.

Baneblade
2005-04-17, 03:43 PM
Water based navies make no sense in a future with hover technologies.

Airships are the navy to go.

LimpBIT
2005-04-17, 05:44 PM
ok well at least space combat. GIve us giant mobile bases and battle cruisers. If you have ever played Homeworld 2 give us crap like that. Giant bases that actually take a lot of skill to fly and control

StrangeFellow
2005-04-17, 06:40 PM
I'll definatly go for a engine overhaul and maybe..just maybe hitboxes. I can't count the number of headshots I've made for the fun of it but still had to reload and shoot again

on a side note: the devs stated that they won't release any more expansions but just include new content in the regular patches

steeldragon01
2005-04-17, 09:53 PM
Ya at least just headshots, but then people would complain about getting one and not a 1 hit and some saying it wasnt a head shot.

Jeffey
2005-04-18, 04:23 AM
PS is way too young for a sequel, Everquest reigned for 5 years before EQ2 was released, and it has a walloping nine (9) expansions, which I have had the pleasure of buying. Many are better than others. After spending years playing every expansion I see what are the 'do's and don'ts' of expac making.

Now one thing that led to alot of success with the most recent EQ expansion, is that it returned to alot of 'original' EQ era encounters and content (Dragons and dungeons - no pun intended). The less liked expansions featured outlandish content (aliens and other dimensions) which turned off alot of players. Likewise in PS, core combat brought in alot of totally off the wall weapons, which really didn't fit in with the scheme of futuristic but still "real" weapons, excluding the VS of course. Vehicles too, just look at the Vanguard, it's a spitting image of a typical US army tank. Then comes the BFR's, Flails, etc etc, all totally out of character for PS at the time.

What I feel would be a good move on SOE's part if this was considered, would obviously be an expansion. Somthing that would introduce very 'original' PS esque weapons and vehicles, a sub machine gun designed for indoors, an AA designed aircraft, all sorts of ideas have been posted and descibed on these forums, you've read them. Just put some logic into it and orient them with existing PS weapons when you design and envision them. New contients would be superb too, no caves, no island hopping, just a big forest ridden chunk of land with some rivers and a lake or two. I'll go ahead and assume that most people enjoy fighting on cyssor and forseal the most, as they permit for some of the better ground cav battles. Esamir is good too.

It isnt rocket science, give the people what they want.

hex222
2005-04-18, 01:51 PM
'a sub machine gun designed for indoors'

YES, i can't ever remember another person who has ever noticed this

and shotguns, machine guns, this should incorporate every aspect of war as we know it, or could ever have it

Warborn
2005-04-18, 02:18 PM
I was going to say, I have NEVER seen any advertising for Planetside. I think they will just have to remake the game, the engine is shot.

You realize that they can replace and upgrade the game engine with expansions, or in some cases, patches, right?

Jeffey
2005-04-18, 02:22 PM
remember the driving overhaul a few months ago so we could get up hills better =)

Phaden
2005-04-18, 03:44 PM
Why have a sub machine gun when you can have a MCG or Cycler indoors. All the MA weapons are assault rifles. TO make a Sub machine gune would be reducing range, reducing damage, and increasing fire rate and CoF bloom.

Jeffey
2005-04-18, 04:29 PM
those were just examples, this is where the discussion of content comes in, how about somthing to effectively counter a jackhammer /ponder...

hex222
2005-04-18, 04:32 PM
those were just examples, this is where the discussion of content comes in, how about somthing to effectively counter a jackhammer /ponder...

or u could just loot urself one

Phaden
2005-04-18, 08:00 PM
Hey im open for new ideas, if you could find a balncer to JH or MCG, Lasher im open to it

Kam
2005-04-18, 08:02 PM
You realize that they can replace and upgrade the game engine with expansions, or in some cases, patches, right?

Ya, ok. I'd like to see them try and upgrade the entire engine with a patch, it would be disasterous. Airships would be cool, and of course a real airforce. (Not hovering turrets.) I also vote for less "ancient" tech and more PS style weapons, IE the NC flamethrower.

steeldragon01
2005-04-18, 11:09 PM
Ya this ancient vanu crap I dont like. I hate the vanu enough. Make some vikings LOL

Untouchable
2005-04-19, 12:18 AM
This topic seems to be coming up a lot recently. Although many of the ideas would be pretty cool if implimented, there isn't any logical reason for adding more features such as the space/naval battles if the playerbase isn't large enough to support them (which I don't believe it currently is). The end result would basically be the end of the large-scale battles that were the original draw to Planetside, which really seem to be a rarity now anyways. If I want anything for PS, it's more people for me to kill :D.

GreyFlcn
2005-04-19, 05:05 AM
.....
Sad how many people think the answer to all your problems

Is simply add some half designed physical content and go 'OMG This fixed the game'

Little naive don't you think?

Jeffey
2005-04-19, 05:52 AM
come again?

Baneblade
2005-04-19, 06:45 AM
.....
Sad how many people think the answer to all your problems

Is simply add some half designed physical content and go 'OMG This fixed the game'

Little naive don't you think?

BFRs fixed the game

*duck*

GreyFlcn
2005-04-19, 06:49 AM
When you say 'fixed' you must be refering to it in the same context you would to a stray dog. :rolleyes:

Baneblade
2005-04-19, 08:38 AM
Poor laddie, even the bloody jokes are beyond him now.

Black
2005-04-19, 09:01 AM
those were just examples, this is where the discussion of content comes in, how about somthing to effectively counter a jackhammer /ponder...
:lol: thats easy keep at range with a MCG

Lartnev
2005-04-19, 04:15 PM
Ya, ok. I'd like to see them try and upgrade the entire engine with a patch, it would be disasterous.

The EverQuest team managed it... twice.

Baneblade
2005-04-19, 04:45 PM
The EverQuest team managed it... twice.

Wasn't one of them called EverQuest 2?

steeldragon01
2005-04-19, 05:13 PM
agree to that

Kam
2005-04-20, 01:09 AM
I never said add unbalanced material. (IE BFRs) I said to just remake the engine that the entire game runs on. Maybe take some of the physics from HL2? THEN, put in new material.

hex222
2005-04-20, 06:10 AM
i play a game called SOCOM 2 on the PS2, in this game, you get kicked out of servers for using machine guns and grenade launchers, because people run arouns with them, never having to reload, and empty all their shots into the enemy at their base...

the problem is that the machine guns are just as light as the assault rifles and far more effective, there is no downside to using them, this is the same thing as heavy assault weaponry, they are the minigun, super shotgun and BFG, and this is not meant to be a quake MMO

this is a lack of realism, and when a game based on squad tactics has a lack of realism, it's most probably not living up to its role

sorry about going off topic

BUGGER
2005-04-21, 01:03 AM
Um skipped page 2, so excus me.

I want space combat. I remember a guy made up Moon's of AUraxis (before the new worlds thing). It was kool, he had some good ideas and then i got hella jacked into it and wrote a page or two on all the aspecs......then my computer crashed. But still, now that the gap between continents are all split into worlds, more reason. Maybe the warpgates and suddenly die or in the center of everything the wormhole opens and its a race to the finish.


?

Lartnev
2005-04-21, 06:36 AM
Wasn't one of them called EverQuest 2?

Nope, EQ2 is completely seperate :P~

Baneblade
2005-04-21, 08:08 AM
Nope, EQ2 is completely seperate :P~

Coulda fooled me :love:

Jeffey
2005-04-21, 09:46 AM
EQ has totally overhauled itself so many times, if you played EQ version 1.0 from 1999 then played EQ right now, you seriously wouldn't know it's the same game, I'm not exaggerating.

Anyway, heres somthing, someone a few pages back mentioned we all should have hovertanks, not just the VS.

Some content for the new expansion - conventional hovercrafts, you've all seen the huge intertubes with a gigantic fan on the back that they drive around in florida and stuff.
http://www.hovpod.com/photo/workpod/military%20hovercraft.jpg
What a perfect concept for a new empire specific series of vehicles, Driver / gunner combo, obviously stick the TR with two gunners.. VS with another floating purple shit launcher, you get the idea. Maybe make a common pool one for just a driver for zipping across rivers for transportation purposes. and unlike all existing vehicles these go slower on land, faster over water.

BrioCyrain
2005-04-21, 12:55 PM
EQ has totally overhauled itself so many times, if you played EQ version 1.0 from 1999 then played EQ right now, you seriously wouldn't know it's the same game, I'm not exaggerating.

Anyway, heres somthing, someone a few pages back mentioned we all should have hovertanks, not just the VS.

Some content for the new expansion - conventional hovercrafts, you've all seen the huge intertubes with a gigantic fan on the back that they drive around in florida and stuff.
http://www.hovpod.com/photo/workpod/military%20hovercraft.jpg
What a perfect concept for a new empire specific series of vehicles, Driver / gunner combo, obviously stick the TR with two gunners.. VS with another floating purple shit launcher, you get the idea. Maybe make a common pool one for just a driver for zipping across rivers for transportation purposes. and unlike all existing vehicles these go slower on land, faster over water.

I know, why is the VS the only freakers with hover? Like their tank is way better JUST becuase it can go over water, it doesnt have to take extra two-five minutes to find a freakin bridge! What the freak? space combat could rock, and some boats and naval stuff wouldnt hurt. This is like 3000 AD, and the only thing these empires have is a cruddy army and air force. Like america by itself can take on all 3 empires!

Baneblade
2005-04-21, 01:29 PM
America? Try Togo.

NorrinRadd
2005-04-21, 03:57 PM
PLANETSIDE 2

There is no game out there with the truly MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER action like Planetside.

If Sony would actually market Planetside 2 everyone would love it as much as we do. Alot of the gamers I have come accross never even heard of it. There is no excuse for that. Planetside has been Sony's red headed step child long enough.

There are more and more non-fantasy oriented MMPORG games out there so Sony should feel "safe" putting some marketting buck$ on the line.

Planetside 2 would be Planetside with more weapons, vehicles, empires and detail.

steeldragon01
2005-04-21, 04:10 PM
Ya that would be cool but would the chars be deleted and that sorda thing?

Kam
2005-04-21, 08:14 PM
I would say no, just as recognition that we stayed with the game so long.

hex222
2005-04-22, 04:46 AM
perhaps if your still subscribed your characters are renewed and you get a few more BR than everybody else, and you get a merit... perhaps a secret weapon, free pizza... even Ber FR's... etc

Lartnev
2005-04-22, 07:48 AM
Personally I think the game would be boring if everyone had lasers and everyone had hover tanks :)