New Sniper Rifle

[Jeffey]

So... anyone try out the new 2 year vet sniper rifle yet?

only one more 1 year and 6 months till I can use it!

[Hamorad]

I know it looks different, but what is changed with the power and reload time, if anything?

[Ghoest9]

7 days till I can try it.

[Warborn]

I know it looks different, but what is changed with the power and reload time, if anything?

Power down, clip size up, ROF up, COF is apparently pretty bad.

[Jeffey]

FYI its availlible in the shooting range for all to play with...

sucks IMO, youll get 10x more kills with the good ol bolt driver, takes some 5 or 6 shots to kill a rexo, and in the time it takes for the rets to close back to a 'definite' shot you could have reloaded your Bolt driver /shrug

might be nice for finishing off previously injured targets but I don't see our snipers picking up any extra kills with it

[Kam]

I have nerver thought of PS sniping as valuable, I see someone killed by a sniper maybe three times a week. I was going to spend my last cert pts on it, but I'd rather have rexo or HA.

[Lartnev]

Sniping is always valuable :D

[Warborn]

Sniping is always valuable :D

I dunno. I was a hardcore sniper for a few months a while back, but I probably would have had a bigger impact on the battlefield playing regular infantry. It's fun and all, lot's of skill required, but most snipers would have better success as a HA grunt (and don't say "well if you're a good enough sniper...", because in that case you're probably a good shot with MA or able to depress the trigger and run forward well enough to use HA).

[steeldragon01]

I like sniping because you dont die as much and sometimes(keyword) its a lot more fun the zerging.

[Jeffey]

I had sniping for a few weeks / months in my lower BR's to level up, you get a shitload of kills in the right fights, but alot like Special Assault, it's a very situational cert.

But lets not digress, we have any 2 year vets who have busted this thing out yet?

[juggalokilla]

I noticed while using it is seems that when reticule is bloomed out decent enough, almost all of the shots go up and to the right side rarely going to the left. kinda weird but I sure will like an additional weapon to play with without spending extra certs.

[Warborn]

But lets not digress, we have any 2 year vets who have busted this thing out yet?

You can try it in the shooting range. The two-year merit isn't till the 19th of May.

[Lartnev]

I didn't say how valuable ;)

I don't normally measure success by kill rate anyway, especially not in the case of sniping.

[steeldragon01]

What should it be called?
I dont like its name right now it needs a real one.

[ChronoSphere]

I already tested this...

6 hits for a rexo
5 for Agile
4 for PJ's (all at full health)

The COF is really bad.

[hex222]

how is it indoors, without the scope on???

[Lonehunter]

I already tested this...

6 hits for a rexo
5 for Agile
4 for PJ's (all at full health)

The COF is really bad.
In real combat that would prolly be the most likely answer, but if you hit every shot subtract 1 from all those totalls.


how is it indoors, without the scope on???
Has a 10 shot clip, shot requirement per kill is listed, the CoF blooms REALL big, and doesn't come back down as fast as the Bolt driver. Honestly you'd be better off using a Pistol.... in ReXo.

[Hamorad]

no its 5 for rexo
4 agile
3 reg

I don't normally measure success by kill rate anyway, especially not in the case of sniping.
this is very true... in most situations with BD, you will get less kills but have less deaths as well. In some situations, you will get insane kills and few deaths. Just because you have a poor or excellent kill rate doesn't imply success, just the situation.

[iluvthequasar]

turns out theres some reverse dmg degredation on it too. rexo dies in VR at 3 hits at very long range, COF is huge though...

[steeldragon01]

But if it wasnt huge the gun would be newby as crap.

[hex222]

thats really stupid, it has a faster RoF but longer CoF resizing time, and i don't expect such a gun would be that helpful in this game anyway...

[Electrofreak]

Well shit. looks like im going to need to update my sniper guide

[Jeffey]

Chapter xxx: The Heavy Sniper Rifle

Don't use it.

[FatalLight]

The whole reason they didn't make the heavy sniper rifle uber 1337ness is because they are trying to stick to the whole noob can beat a vet thing. It was said when the merits were comming out that they wanted to make features that didn't make you better, they just offered an alternative. I mean you don't even need a cert for this thing (I don't think).

[Lartnev]

More likely they don't want everyone sniping and/or the Bolt Driver becoming redundant :)

[hex222]

i don't think it would become redundant, not if they change it properly, if the HSR had it's CoF sized down faster and it's general accuracy and shot range degraded, then it should be more useful at those operations in bases and towers, and the BD would still be useful for long distance on towers, bases and hills...

[Kam]

Right now it's just a piece of crap. The COF makes it worthless in a real combat situation where a guy can just run behind a tree or something. They need to cut the COF cooldown in half atleast before it will be useful.

[ChewyLSB]

As Sniping is one of my main certifications, I think it's fine the way it is. It should be much worse than the Bolt Driver, so the Bolt Driver is still the main Sniper Rifle.

[Warborn]

As Sniping is one of my main certifications, I think it's fine the way it is. It should be much worse than the Bolt Driver, so the Bolt Driver is still the main Sniper Rifle.

Right, and what exactly does that make the HSR then? It can't compete with the bolt driver, or any MA weapon, or anything. It has literally no use that isn't covered and completely dominated over by another weapon. I've thousands of sniper kills and yet after a day of sniping with it I honestly would never dream of using it in any situation. I've a lot of MA experience and this thing has no ability in the MA department. The weapon's COF is too huge, and its ammo consumption too quick. It's dead weight until they patch it.

[hex222]

well, when you remember that it has nly just entered the game from private testing, it makes sense that it hasn't found it's place...

[ChewyLSB]

Right, and what exactly does that make the HSR then? It can't compete with the bolt driver, or any MA weapon, or anything. It has literally no use that isn't covered and completely dominated over by another weapon. I've thousands of sniper kills and yet after a day of sniping with it I honestly would never dream of using it in any situation. I've a lot of MA experience and this thing has no ability in the MA department. The weapon's COF is too huge, and its ammo consumption too quick. It's dead weight until they patch it.

I think the reasoning behind the HSR is to give people with the Two Year Merit a Pseudo-Sniper Rifle in case they ever need it - even if they don't have the sniping certification.

[Warborn]

well, when you remember that it has nly just entered the game from private testing, it makes sense that it hasn't found it's place...

No, it doesn't. When something is added to the game I'd at the very least expect it to have been played with a bit to see if it does what it's meant to do. There is no way you can say someone seriously playtested this weapon and concluded that it fills the niche it's meant for. Go try it out in VR and come here and tell me you think it has any role that a bolt driver or MA weapon doesn't cover and exceed at.

I think the reasoning behind the HSR is to give people with the Two Year Merit a Pseudo-Sniper Rifle in case they ever need it - even if they don't have the sniping certification.

Clearly, but that's not my point. As it stands right now, the HSR is not a pseudo-sniper rifle. It's nothing. You can hardly get kills with it. The current implimentation of the weapon is incredible, so poor is it. My point wasn't that the concept behind the weapon is terribly flawed or something (that remains to be seen) it's that what we've got right now is so bad that nobody but the people who want to be unique little snowflakes would use one beyond the first few times, trying to figure out if it's any good (because it's not).

[Kam]

Honestly it owns agile indoors, I have no idea about rexo. It's almost as deadly as the shotgun when in a indoor battle. Funny thing is, it's a sniper rifle.

[steeldragon01]

I want to use it, any idea when it comes out for the sniping cert?

[Wraithlord]

I actually started playing again, I found its niche.

Its an incredibly good weapon for kill stealing from snipers.

1) Set up camp next to a friendly sniper nest.
2) ...profit.