View Full Version : Restored German K98, and a little bit of history.
Biohazzard56
2006-02-27, 05:46 PM
For those of you interested the Russians after the war took apart all of the german arms they had found mixed them up and basically made a large assembly line making the best condition rifles they could (Most russian captures have the swastikas or eagles removed entirely, mine only has pinged swastikas, not that I care either way but id like to be able to prove that it is german). Checking for function, then they reblued and refinished them. The problem is that, the russians didnt care about making them pretty, they just threw a stain onto the wood.
They also melted down unessential parts such as locking screws, cleaning rods, font sight hoods. Then they were put in crates smothered with cosmoline (really sticky gun oil) and then locked just in case their satelite states needed arms or if the shit hit the fan. The finish on mine was flaking off and looked horrible to begin with.
Useing the same process the germans finished their K98s with, It turned out like this:
http://www.biohazzard56.er7600.com/FTP/BLO98.jpg
I still preserved the Russian capture markings, the stock was made sometime before 1936, because the style of flat eagles on the takedown disk (circle thing on the stock) was only made before '36. The gun itself was made at Mauser Works in Oberndorf, Germany in 1943, the company still has an arsenal there although Mauser is now owned by Steyr (makers of the AUG) and I really doubt my warranty is still valid. :lol:
Firefly
2006-02-27, 07:35 PM
The gun itself was made at Mauser Works in Oberndorf, Germany in 1943, the company still has an arsenal there although Mauser is now owned by Steyr (makers of the AUG) and I really doubt my warranty is still valid. :lol:
I doubt they had a warranty, but I would be willing to bet you that Steyr would love to have a look at it - probably for the price of a free servicing.
Biohazzard56
2006-02-27, 10:01 PM
They are fully aware, probably laugh. That is the beauty of bolt actions, anything can be fixed.
xmodum
2006-02-27, 10:02 PM
Nice gun, I was looking into getting an M1 Carbine or a K98 a while ago, lost interest though when my parents smashed those dreams.
Meh, not really, they just wanted to make sure it didn't cost too much. I just lost interest after spending a day searching.
Biohazzard56
2006-02-27, 10:11 PM
They dont cost that much, but there are some companies who refinish and reblue and sell them for $$$$$. This K98 was $150
Its definatley one of the cheapest ways to get into shooting, I dont care for competition myself. But I cant help but laugh when my dad beats a guy with an AR-15 with a 60 year old Mosin in 10 shot groupings.
Hamma
2006-02-28, 10:21 AM
Nice :thumbsup:
I keep trying to buy Guns but Jenny yells at me.
OneManArmy
2006-02-28, 11:20 AM
you should buy some winchesters... they are pretty much going out of business.
well ok not technically but they are moving over seas and thier guns will no longer have the winchester name stamped on em.
Lartnev
2006-02-28, 02:30 PM
That's cool :thumbsup:
I have a deactivated Mosin Nagant 1938 (we're not allowed to have firearms in Britain.... unless you happen to be ex-SAS or something ;))
Was thinking about getting a Kar98 as well at some point in the near future too as they rock :)
AztecWarrior
2006-02-28, 06:28 PM
Guns rule, tell Jenny to sssh and watch as you blow the crap out of a watermelon. Heh, fruit juice the AMERICAN way!
Yeah, I had some fun with a full-auto M4 yesterday. Entire clip gone in five seconds == win
Biohazzard56
2006-02-28, 06:45 PM
My uncle in Oxford has a shotgun, and I know of an Enfield shooting assocation in England.
Im not a purist collector but, I dont like seeing these historically significant arms being permanently modified. Im glad you got one though Lart, even though it couldnt be fired again it serves as important reminder. I guess its not as bad as the ATF permanently destroying arms.
This thread reminds me of when my dad brought that first Mosin home for christmas. "Justin tried to beat down the door with an axe, and now you are going to trust him with a gun?" :lol:.
No accidents, just make sure everything is unloaded and you dont have a thing to worry about it. Most negligent discharges are caused by people who keep a round in the chamber when not in use.
No Accidents would happen if everyone followed the 5 Basic Rules:
1. Treat every firearm as if it were loaded.
2. Never allow the muzzle to point at anything you are not willing to see destroyed.
3. Be sure of your target and know what lies behind it. (Cheney is guilty of this one)
4. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are aligned on target.
5. When not in use make sure every firearm is unloaded and decocked.
Oh and do not rely on the safety, its only mechanical and it will fail.
Biohazzard56
2006-02-28, 06:48 PM
Aztec you should be friends with whoever owns it. Because the people who own legal full autos have more money than they what to do with. and will let you blow through several mags like its nothing.
I never had the desire to fire any of the rifles based on Stoner's design. Give me something with some cahones.
AztecWarrior
2006-02-28, 08:44 PM
Aztec you should be friends with whoever owns it. Because the people who own legal full autos have more money than they what to do with. and will let you blow through several mags like its nothing.
...that was my dad. He bought it waaay back for approx 1/10th of its present value. Tell me a company's stock that has increased that much!
I never had the desire to fire any of the rifles based on Stoner's design. Give me something with some cahones.
Yeah, so I also fired an AK (semi auto) and an HK91 (G3-- 7.62 NATO).
Lartnev
2006-03-01, 02:32 PM
My uncle in Oxford has a shotgun, and I know of an Enfield shooting assocation in England.
This is true, ok I lied (not on purpose) you can have firearms if you're part of a gun club, do re-enactments or do phesant shooting etc (basically, you have a genuine reason to have one), however it requires a firearms license and you must keep all weapons hidden away in a locked compartment etc.
Since deactivated weapons are not classified as firearms (since, well, they can't fire) you don't need a license. Course I'd prefer the shooting variety, but just being able to use the bolt action will do :)
Biohazzard56
2006-03-01, 04:50 PM
Lart, I have a few questions. On the reciever is there a star on the reciever or a triangle. Both have arrows in the middle of them.
The star is Tula = rarer
The triangle is Izhevsk = common
Oh and if it has an original M38 stock that is uncommon as well, there is an M44 carbine and after the war most wartime M38s were put into the M44 stocks which have cuts for bayonetts.
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