I found out something interesting. The game has taken a wrong turn!

[Ait'al]

I found my PS guide book from prima. It turns our the game has had a lot of bad changes too it. They keep changing the game(at our request) in essence based on what we think we always saw as different damage ammounts in our favorite guns. It actually turns out that almost all hand weapons in PS had the same damage but were realy defined by their range and cof etc. (ROF Acurracy, shot power, effective range(COF + something) As well as the other physical things in the game like foot speed and other things. The environment made the game not the statistics. The statistics just had to be nice and even so you could use the rest of the game to give it feel.

So the damge isnt the big thing. The Cof and other stuff were the most important afterall. And influencial!


Most of the discriptions we all have used based on what we read on the sites weapon descriptions were basically accurate in themselves. it was the rest of the game that i think most people got completely wrong. It would be interesting to have them set back the games original items as much as possible to their older figures and then see what can be done about the new weapons.

Either way looking at the old data after all of the arguments and disscussions as of late was incredably revealing. It said alot about where the arguments have been comeing from . And in some cases how misguided. It was very intersting.

[Hamma]

This is the trend of all MMO's I think - eventually they get nerfed beyond recognition :lol:

[BigBuster]

is that whats positivly happened to PS??? is it nerfed most weps?

[Boomer]

*remembers the uber lasher*

:^o

I would literally rip prowlers apart with my old wittle lashy.

*Goes and Makes a VS character again*

[BigBuster]

Does VS still OWN? or is it fairly balenced now?

[Geist]

From what I hear on these forums,no.

[Hamma]

IMO their max's blow all the others out of the water still.

[Ivan]

I don't play anymore but I remember getting so made at dieing by JackHammers and Lashers. Poor old TR. :)

[JTBell]

I think it's just easier for devs to nerf stuff at our request than to make everything else more powerful, and therin lies the problem.

[BigBuster]

Can A VS MAX kill a TR MAX that is anti infantry and spikes planted?

[BadDogEDN]

yes cause when the tr max deploys the vs max flies over it and shoots it in the back

[WritheNC]

This is not the first thread you want to see when you come back to see how the old flame is doing.

Kind of like your high school sweetheart who was on the cheerleading squad, and you run into her later and she's fat, living in a run down trailer home, and raising 5 kids. With different fathers. And there's a bunch of empty alcohol bottles in the recycling bin outside(even worse; she didn't share it with you!!)

...holy crap! That's me! :cry

[BigBuster]

your the cherr leader or the guy that knew her? <walk away in silence.>

[Ait'al]

Well i seem to have lost or thrown away my prima strategy guide. So if anyone has it, can they contact a dev on the OF and ask if they can post the info onto this forum. I contacted prima and they said all copyright is controled by sony. So htey can give you the right of way. Specifically post the original weapons schematics. And if you can, and if they give you permission, See if you can post the whole book. 8)

The difference is astounding. Especially when you take those damages and compare them to the damages you get now in the VR and in game(more specifically shots to kill / STK not TTK.). The book does give you enough info to put the whole game together also. You just have to jump to another section sometimes or read the notes or other sections carefully enough. It even gives you the proper info to put together the old troop movement speeds properly.

I can't get on the OF right now so i can't do anything about asking them even if i did have it. But it would be cool to see if htey would let the whole book be used on this forum if htey and hamma would allow it. So if you have a cheap 20 dollar scanner too or can get one go for it!! Remember to remind them that the data is now outdated. It may make it easier for them to make up their minds. It will be alot easier to come up with balance fixes when everyone sees this info and understands it all. I think the one big thing that didnt happend that always happens with rts's is that not everyone has taken in the real game data. Which is always vital for the health of any rts based game. If that data was around it could help make this game alot healthier and help bring about much better changes. Especially since this game has one bigger weakness than 4x4player rts games being an MMO.

[Ait'al]

Contact hamma first, too, for any objections or ways he would like this to be done. If they give permission maybe he would allow the whole thing posted somehow and not just part of it. 8)