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Hamma
2006-05-17, 10:30 PM
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=160

Interesting Article.

LimpBIT
2006-05-17, 11:20 PM
hmm that is very interesting. All the messages they came up with are all different....yet the same :\

Kikinchikin
2006-05-17, 11:38 PM
Best idea would be a sign that says DON'T GO HERE, YOU'LL DIE.

Electrofreak
2006-05-18, 12:20 AM
Why not just a picture of radioactive waste spilled over a dead dude?

Seems to me like that would send the message.

Shadwulf
2006-05-18, 04:04 AM
nice trick, any1 know who made the sign in the first place?

Ivan
2006-05-18, 11:38 PM
The idea about leaving human remains above-ground would do the trick. I'll donate my remains. So my family doesn't have to go broke to pay for my funeral.

Jaged
2006-05-18, 11:39 PM
The idea about leaving human remains above-ground would do the trick. I'll donate my remains. So my family doesn't have to go broke to pay for my funeral.
decomposition?

Ivan
2006-05-18, 11:43 PM
Bones would remain for a long while... We're still finding dino bones.

Rbstr
2006-05-19, 12:08 AM
This is realy interesting.

How do you convey complex information like the kind of material stored, the period of time needed for it to be safe, to a culture that has no common ground to our own.

Like in video games and movies.

Giant relics of past cizilizations or aliens that were beyond our technological level.(Halo springs to mind)

Hamma
2006-05-19, 08:54 AM
Indeed what means DANGER to us may mean "OMG FREE ICE CREAM" to someone else :lol:

Jaged
2006-05-19, 07:56 PM
Bones would remain for a long while... We're still finding dino bones.
But how would they be different from any other fossil this future civilization digs up?

Rbstr
2006-05-19, 08:52 PM
Because these bones are human(assumign you ment any old fossil, not specificaly human fosils)? and becasue they would be connected with other more advanced messages.

That would mean something to future human civilizations for sure. If they were primative, all those bodies would probably scare them away, if they were advanced, the other messages would take care of that.

For non-humans it wouldn't matter, Aliens would probably understand right away(with technology to get here from whereever they came from they better)

And the time for a non-human civilization to evolve here is surely greater than 10,000 years, so they don't have to worry.

LimpBIT
2006-05-20, 08:16 PM
For non-humans it wouldn't matter, Aliens would probably understand right away(with technology to get here from whereever they came from they better)



and also considering the possibility that these radioactive materials may not be harmful to aliens. May even be helpful?

Rbstr
2006-05-20, 08:41 PM
Well, I think any creature with a chemistry that requires complex molecules(our protiens, horomones ect.) inorder to function faces a similar threat in any kind of ionizing radiation(The higher end of the EM spectrum).

It's going to break or rearange those complex molecules and make them useless, or worse, harmfull. And it could probably do the same to the molecules that store the information on how to make everything(analogous to your DNA)

I can't think of a way for anything with organism-like complexity to not be effected by high energy radiation(I could see organisms ajusted for UV levels of energy, but much higher I dono).

xuur
2006-05-22, 10:45 PM
what makes anyone think they'd heed a warning anyway?

Rbstr
2006-05-22, 11:12 PM
They don't want to die?

LimpBIT
2006-05-22, 11:15 PM
what makes anyone think they'd heed a warning anyway?

good question. Well think about it, im sure if aliens got here they would probably have some way to shield themselves from it, considering they have more than likely encountered the same elements wherever they may live (chemistry and physics dont change depending on where you live as far as I know :doh:) And a future human civilization would probably know about it already because the information would be passed down to that civilization anyway! And if its a primative civilization (which is seeming more and more likely everyday), than......who knows!

" I do not know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but I do know World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

Ivan
2006-05-23, 01:28 PM
" I do not know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but I do know World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
- Albert Einstein.

Rbstr
2006-05-23, 01:35 PM
A primitive civ. is still going to have Humanity's inate reasoning.

They come across this foreboading thing, with bones, and scary pictures of them dieing if they go though this door I think they'd think twice about going in.

LimpBIT
2006-05-23, 05:19 PM
- Albert Einstein.

thx Ivan, I couldnt remember who that was