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Baneblade
2006-07-13, 03:16 PM
I may just need practice with it, but sofar the Wasp seems to be worse AA than a Reaver. While the lock on is handy, its a headache with how fragile the actual lock is. After about 30 minutes of play I was 3/6 in it, and one of those kills was a stupid cloaker :lol: .

Compare that to the typical 10/1 I'd get in a Reaver and I'd say the Wasp isn't for me. Even at long range it seems not to dominate like you would think, between the lock on delay and the ease of losing the lock, its amazing I managed to shoot anything down at all lol.

The only time the Wasp seems to have the advantage is in surprise attacks or while chasing the target. If they know you are coming, you cant win the fight at least you can't if the other pilot has any dogfighting experience.

The fears about the Wasp being overpowered are definately not justified. It has its role, but air superiority fighter it is not.

xMars
2006-07-14, 04:08 PM
I may just need practice with it, but sofar the Wasp seems to be worse AA than a Reaver. While the lock on is handy, its a headache with how fragile the actual lock is. After about 30 minutes of play I was 3/6 in it, and one of those kills was a stupid cloaker :lol: .

Compare that to the typical 10/1 I'd get in a Reaver and I'd say the Wasp isn't for me. Even at long range it seems not to dominate like you would think, between the lock on delay and the ease of losing the lock, its amazing I managed to shoot anything down at all lol.

The only time the Wasp seems to have the advantage is in surprise attacks or while chasing the target. If they know you are coming, you cant win the fight at least you can't if the other pilot has any dogfighting experience.

The fears about the Wasp being overpowered are definately not justified. It has its role, but air superiority fighter it is not.


sorry but you i assume that you are not a well seasoned pilot.

WASP:

missiles will take down any enemy aircraft easily. it is up to YOU to keep the lock. with the speed+afterburn advantage of the wasp, no aircraft can escape.

it is NOT for infantry farming like the mossie (or the old godlike reaver spam). thats what i take you compare it too.

anyway, the missiles are NOT THAT overpowered. the CHAINGUN is. just SHOOT that thing on any armor and you see how easily it rips through.

even lightnings are easy targets. MBT`s yawn easy targets

Mag-Mower
2006-07-14, 06:31 PM
I hate it when wasps camp the vehicle terminal and just wait for you to pull a Liberator... damned pricks... thats why I don't fly any more...

xMars
2006-07-14, 08:10 PM
I hate it when wasps camp the vehicle terminal and just wait for you to pull a Liberator... damned pricks... thats why I don't fly any more...

YEs the LIBERATOR is the prime target for padcampers. omg wake up. it takes EIGHT missiles to kill your lib, if you die camped of the pad by 1 wasp YOU FAIL

if you pull yourself a wasp and get camped THAT is shitty, because it only takes TWO missiles to kill=instadeath

Atra
2006-07-15, 01:38 AM
For the first author's comments, I say... practice, practice, practice. If you want a better lock, go into your game options and change your mouse sensitivity for aircraft to suit your needs. If you plan to do more intercepting than dogfighting, then you want less sensitivity so you can track targets easier. If you're dogfighting... you don't belong in a wasp unless you're an ace. It's only real AA strength for non-stationary targets are its missles. Stick to mossies for the dogfighting. And if you want to learn how to dogfight, go up against Neptuium-K of the VS. Nep and I have a love/hate thing going on, but he's d4mn good and fighting him will make you better.

For the second guy's comments, yes you can escape a wasp - easily... and it has little to do with afterburner. There are some (non-bug) tricks a mossie can do that not only will lose a lock but can befuddle all but an ace wasp pilot (and no, keeping a lock-on does not an ace make). Practice makes uber.

Oorah,

xMars
2006-07-15, 11:20 AM
If you're dogfighting... you don't belong in a wasp unless you're an ace. It's only real AA strength for non-stationary targets are its missles. Stick to mossies for the dogfighting.


LOL. are you new? is atra your main char?

soon again, i shall gladly show you how to dogfight with the machinegun :)



And if you want to learn how to dogfight, go up against Neptuium-K of the VS. Nep and I have a love/hate thing going on, but he's d4mn good and fighting him will make you better.

who is nep? never heard of him

,

bvh

TX3RN0BILL
2006-07-17, 07:57 AM
And here I was thinking that xMars only had a inferiority/superiority complex towards Reservists (which he so dignantly calls fodder) - now I see he's more troubled than that... :rolleyes:

Baneblade
2006-07-17, 01:11 PM
sorry but you i assume that you are not a well seasoned pilot.

WASP:

missiles will take down any enemy aircraft easily. it is up to YOU to keep the lock. with the speed+afterburn advantage of the wasp, no aircraft can escape.

it is NOT for infantry farming like the mossie (or the old godlike reaver spam). thats what i take you compare it too.

anyway, the missiles are NOT THAT overpowered. the CHAINGUN is. just SHOOT that thing on any armor and you see how easily it rips through.

even lightnings are easy targets. MBT`s yawn easy targets

It's as easy as you make it sound at high altitude, sure. but not hugging the ground when weaving through trees. The lock delay pretty much nullifies any skill you could have in painting the target for two seconds between obstacles.

CrAzY Fo0L
2006-07-18, 07:42 PM
Well i flow the wasp for the 1st time not so long ago and im startin to get used to it already, although i do prefer using a reaver................much more satisfying to see a VS tank hovering over water (then the dumb driver cant escape:evil: ) gd this game rules:cool:

Boomer
2006-08-04, 06:54 AM
I may just need practice with it, but sofar the Wasp seems to be worse AA than a Reaver. While the lock on is handy, its a headache with how fragile the actual lock is. After about 30 minutes of play I was 3/6 in it, and one of those kills was a stupid cloaker .
You really do suck at flying.
If you're dogfighting... you don't belong in a wasp unless you're an ace.
You shitting me right? Oh wait, I get it! Its a ploy to get all the retards out of wasps because they are too easy to use!
kk, continue.
Stick to mossies for the dogfighting. And if you want to learn how to dogfight, go up against Neptuium-K of the VS. Nep and I have a love/hate thing going on, but he's d4mn good and fighting him will make you better.
uhh, sure! Yes, mossies are MUCH BETTER at dogfighting at than wasps. believe me, with my ACA--Plat.
Yeah, nept is an effing noob man, you can beat that 3 year vet anytime. he WONT powerslide circles around you, ripping you apart while you spin helplessly around until you explode, I swear.
For the second guy's comments, yes you can escape a wasp - easily... and it has little to do with afterburner. There are some (non-bug) tricks a mossie can do that not only will lose a lock but can befuddle all but an ace wasp pilot (and no, keeping a lock-on does not an ace make). Practice makes uber.
The wasp pilot has to suck anally for you to be able to escape at any missile friendly range. (which is twice as much range as the skillfire VS AA Max).

Your best bet is to either sky or ground ASAP when you know a wasp has locked you, and to AB towards the wasp in an attempt to break his lock. I've won many times doing something like this, and lost only to the half-assed players who know how to turret properly.
It's as easy as you make it sound at high altitude, sure. but not hugging the ground when weaving through trees. The lock delay pretty much nullifies any skill you could have in painting the target for two seconds between obstacles.
I have a good idea for you.
Decert.
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To sum it up, the WASP is unbeatable 1v1 in the air in the hands of a good pilot. With 2x the afterburner and 10x the firepower of the mossy and reaver combined, the effin thing can blow away almost any vehicle in the game, air or ground.
When I am in one, I am never shot down unless by other wasps, and usually I end up running out of ammo and just bombing the nearest enemy vehicle pad with it.
If you cant kill anything with the wasp, you obviously cant kill anything at all. The thing takes no skill WHAT SO EVER to use. Period. End of story.
I mastered it in 5 minutes. My friend who just got the game has mastered it already, and is already known widely as a wasp whore.
One obvious indication of this, is the fact that Wasp kills DONT GO TOWARDS AIR COMBAT ACE KILLs. The devs probably realized how easy it is to kill with it. ;)

Just keep flying if you really want to be another air whore. this game is watered down anyway, why not contribute to the problem like everyone else?

<3 Boomer

Baneblade
2006-08-09, 07:46 PM
I did decert the Wasp, got back in my good ole Reaver and killed 5 of them (Wasps) in 2 minutes.

xMars
2006-08-10, 07:52 AM
I did decert the Wasp, got back in my good ole Reaver and killed 5 of them (Wasps) in 2 minutes.

SURE. becuase there are SOOOOO many wasps

failed epeen attempt= -100kp

Baneblade
2006-08-10, 03:20 PM
SURE. becuase there are SOOOOO many wasps

failed epeen attempt= -100kp

K