Metallica on iTunes

[Hamma]

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/7/25/4763

Just ammusing.

[Kikinchikin]

Hmmm suspicious for sure. I don't want to start a debate on this at all, but although I personally don't care about piracy that much, I think their stance toward it is justified, although they perhaps didn't need to go as over the top as they did. Regardless of any of that though, their music is amazing.

[Hamma]

I think if it was any other band it would have been career suicide to do what they did :lol:

I just think its ironic that their music is now downloadable after all the crap they went through, regardless if its right or wrong.

[Strygun]

humorous. I knew they'd give in someday.

[Giovanni]

I lost alot of respect for them over the years... Metallica is not what it used to be.

Edit: Also, I don't see why they're getting so bunched up about the whole downloading thing... see... they don't make that much money from record sales. They make a bundle more by touring and the such.

[Kikinchikin]

Don't care what you say about the Napster shit, their new records, "selling out," or cutting their hair.

They still fucking rock out.

[Giovanni]

Don't care what you say about the Napster shit, their new records, "selling out," or cutting their hair.

They still fucking rock out.

I honestly prefer Avenged Sevenfold to Metallica. Atleast they aren't a bunch of fucking pissy spoiled brats.

[Kikinchikin]

Lol, please tell me when you think of bands equivalent to Metallica you don't think of Avenged Sevenfold. Metallica was rocking out before they knew how to walk.

[OneManArmy]

how will the duke boys get out of this one....

[Giovanni]

Lol, please tell me when you think of bands equivalent to Metallica you don't think of Avenged Sevenfold. Metallica was rocking out before they knew how to walk.

And then? The old stuff was fairly good... but now...? They're in it only for the money... they don't care about making good music or their fans...

I'm not saying they're equivalent... I'm in fact saying that they are superior... the old stuff would be equivalent... but now... Metallica has been reduced to a big steaming pile of crap.

[Ivan]

IMO, as soon as a band "makes it big" it's all about the money from then on. It's the "no-name, still working at Kinkos" bands that do it for the fans. What few fans they might have at that time.

[Kikinchikin]

Avenged Sevenfold is a flash in the pan band that will be around for another 5 or 6 years max. 20 years from now, no one will remember them beyond the people who were huge fans. Metallica, on the other hand, is the 7th best selling musical act in America ever. People will be listening to, and remembering them the same as other legendary bands like the Beatles and the Stones. To put Avenged Sevenfold in the same sentence as Metallica is downright laughable, much less comparing the two as if they were equals.

I'll admit, St. Anger sucked. Their new releases ever since Black Album have been progressively worse. And I don't care what you say, their fight against illegal downloading was a legitimate cause. They have a right to be angry about people stealing their music. Does that mean I agree with them? No, in fact I really couldn't care less about music piracy. Yes, perhaps they were over zealous in their fight, which is why they garnered so much disdain from so many fans. However, none of that makes a difference when it comes to their legacy and overall status as a band. They are one of the best bands ever, something others can only hope to emulate.

And yes, despite their recent studio offerings, they still rock the fuck out live.

[Giovanni]

Avenged Sevenfold is a flash in the pan band that will be around for another 5 or 6 years max. 20 years from now, no one will remember them beyond the people who were huge fans. Metallica, on the other hand, is the 7th best selling musical act in America ever. People will be listening to, and remembering them the same as other legendary bands like the Beatles and the Stones. To put Avenged Sevenfold in the same sentence as Metallica is downright laughable, much less comparing the two as if they were equals.

I'll admit, St. Anger sucked. Their new releases ever since Black Album have been progressively worse. And I don't care what you say, their fight against illegal downloading was a legitimate cause. They have a right to be angry about people stealing their music. Does that mean I agree with them? No, in fact I really couldn't care less about music piracy. Yes, perhaps they were over zealous in their fight, which is why they garnered so much disdain from so many fans. However, none of that makes a difference when it comes to their legacy and overall status as a band. They are one of the best bands ever, something others can only hope to emulate.

And yes, despite their recent studio offerings, they still rock the fuck out live.

It will be forgotten in five to six years? I've been listening to them ever since they released the Warmness on the soul album. They've been accepted within the hardcore community as a great band and althought they don't have the same fan base as Metallica they will not die so easily. Even with their change of music style from hardcore to metal, they have retained a huge loyal fan base...

I met these guys after a concert and to be honest they have got to be the most down to earth guys ever... they don't really care about the fame they only care about making fans happy and making good music. They put on a show to entertain people.

Metallica will fart in a microphone and call it music... they just don't care anymore by now they are laughing they're asses off in a pool full of money. I'm sorry but they have lost so much of my respect in the past few years that I just don't like them that much anymore... the old stuff I can still stand but the rest is down right annoying.

[Ivan]

People will be listening to, and remembering them the same as other legendary bands like the Beatles and the Stones. To put Avenged Sevenfold in the same sentence as Metallica is downright laughable, much less comparing the two as if they were equals.

I'm sorry I feel the same way about you comparing Metallica to the Beatles.

I guess what we can learn from this thread is that taste in music are like butt holes, everyone has their own and they all stink.

[Kikinchikin]

The fact that your band (I say your because I've typed Avenged Sevenfold enough already), is down to earth and is in the business, at least in your opinion, only for the fans, is admirable, and I wish more bands would take that stance. That doesn't mean they will ever be as successful as Metallica is. Also, is it safe to assume you haven't met Metallica, because it's not exactly fair to pass judgement on them without even meeting them the same way you did with your band.

Bottom line, I like Sevenfold. They're a good band, don't get me wrong. But it's mind boggling to me how you could compare the two as equals or even declare Sevenfold a better band than Metallica. Metallica may indeed be pompous pricks obsessed with their egos and money. Or they may be honest people who love making music and don't like seeing it stolen. Neither you nor I can make that determination, which leaves only each band's achievements to measure them with.

[Giovanni]

Just look at the interviews man...

I'm not gonna deny that a7x makes money... hell! More power to them if they do make alot! But atleast they don't act like jerks about it. Thing is, the members of Metallica has the tendency to act like jackasses... the "were rich, famous and you not!" attitude they have is.... annoying to say the least.

I dunno... I'm not gonna keep up with this debate... it's not the time they've been around that makes them better or not... your basicly saying that because Good charlotte has been around longer then a7x... that they're better...

Thus... the Backstreet boys would be better then any new band...

[Ivan]

I declare this argument futile.

[Setari]

I declare Ivan's resistance futile.

[Ivan]

I declare your resistance to my resistance futile. :borg:

[Setari]

I declare that it's time to chill with the declarations.

[Hamma]

Gio all Kikin is trying to say is you cannot deny what Metallica has done and the success they have had. And he is right in that sense you can't. They have had amazing success throughout their careers and will live on for many many years to come.

You cannot compare a newer band to them in the sense that the newer band is in its infancy compared to what Metallica has been doing for a long time now. Regardless of the whole sharing thing which unfortunately will overshadow most of their work when people say "Metallica" from here on out.

Quality wise is irrelevant really, and as Ivan said everyone has their own opinion on that. But ya can't deny the facts :D

[Giovanni]

Infancy? They've been around since 1999... the band isn't that young. Your right. They are in some way legends... doesn't mean I can't compare another band to them and beleive they have more talent.

[Hamma]

7 years as compared to like 25 years and countless gold records? :lol:

They have far more of a fanbase and have been around for far longer, if you want to debate talent well everyone has their own tastes in music afterall.

I prefer Techno.

:p

[Setari]

I prefer not using iTunes.

[Kikinchikin]

Gio all Kikin is trying to say is you cannot deny what Metallica has done and the success they have had. And he is right in that sense you can't. They have had amazing success throughout their careers and will live on for many many years to come.

You cannot compare a newer band to them in the sense that the newer band is in its infancy compared to what Metallica has been doing for a long time now. Regardless of the whole sharing thing which unfortunately will overshadow most of their work when people say "Metallica" from here on out.

Quality wise is irrelevant really, and as Ivan said everyone has their own opinion on that. But ya can't deny the facts :D

That's basically hitting the nail on the head. I was never trying to debate talent because everyone of course has a different opinion on who is good and who sucks.

[Peacemaker]

All I know is that I went to a Metallica Concert..... Godsmack opened. Godsmack schooled metallica. Theyve been driving into the ground for years.

[OneManArmy]

All I know is that I went to a Metallica Concert..... Godsmack opened. Godsmack schooled metallica. Theyve been driving into the ground for years.

guess everyone has thier days because I did too and metallica blew them away. shit blew the whole place away.

[Ivan]

guess everyone has thier days because I did too and metallica blew them away. shit blew the whole place away.

Live shows are hit and miss. I've been to many cause my brother is a sound engineer and has worked for many bands well known and not and gets me in sometimes. (Currently working with Hillary Duff :rofl:)

He got me into a Dave Matthews Band concert one time and they sucked. They played the music fine I just didn't get the feeling like they wanted to be there, but the very next day they had an other show and my brother said they played the same set but it was 10 times better.

[Setari]

He got me into a Dave Matthews Band concert one time and they sucked. They played the music fine I just didn't get the feeling like they wanted to be there, but the very next day they had an other show and my brother said they played the same set but it was 10 times better.

Maybe someone took their weed the day you were there.

[OneManArmy]

no shit man. DMB concerts are just one big fucking bowl of weed.

[Setari]

I'm not sure if that was serious or not, but they play some pretty big jam shows, always known for weed. The biggest of which is probably Bonnaroo. Any time you have a jam band playing, people will get high.