Smoker vs. Non Smoker

[Giovanni]

I was at the restaurant this morning and for those who don't know, smoking has been banned around here in restaurants, bars... pretty much any indoor public spaces really.

Well here I am eating my pancakes when some dumb son of a bitch behind me lights up... see... I don't hate smokers themselves and I know there is no serious scientific facts that support the whole "Second hand smoke causes cancer" thing. Thing is, I just don't like cigarettes... it smells horrible and to be quite honest... who's the dumbass that thinks that somehow hot smoke going down to your lungs isn't harmfull in one way or another?

Now me and Claudia are eating peacefully and he lights up... minutes later lights up another one... the waitress didn't do shit and nobody was saying anything. So I turn around and ask him to put it out.

He awnsers with the evil eye saying (in french): "Look kid, I've been smoking all my life and it's my fucking right to smoke where I damn please!"

Let's just say I wasn't please with it so I called the manager after talking to the waitress and they kicked him out after he made a big scene about it (he should consider himself lucky he would have payed I think... 400$ ish bucks for breaking this new law...).

It bothers me thought, isn't it my right to not inhale crap like that? I'm quite happy about this new law to be honest but everywhere I go, there's smokers complaining about it saying we're taking away their freedom and their rights. Since it's my right not to inhale that shit... aren't they in fact fucking with my rights by smoking in my face?

What's your opinion on the whole thing? What should prevail? The rights of a minority to pollute a majority's air? Or the rights to breathe clean air when you go out?

Debate.

[Ghryphen]

I hate it, smells like shit. My neighbors smoke and it fills my house with that shit, one day I had to go for a drive to get some fresh air because I couldn't get any in my own home for hours. What a stupid habit, what possible upside is there to smoking? It looks cool? Yeah, right. It makes you smell like crap, burn money, crappy teeth, no matter how private of a habit you think it is it is always in somebody else's face. I just don't see what possible appeal there can be. I am happy with the new law. My brother smokes, I hope he can kick it eventually. He started because it was the "in" thing to do while hanging with the stoners in high school.

[xmodum]

My parents have smoked since I was a kid. We've lived in the same house. I can't even smell it anymore, I'm so used to it. I'm never gonna smoke though (Already got enough from them...), and I do hate when it's blown in my face, but usually my parents just smoke in their room because they don't want that shit around us.

But meh, it is a stupid habbit, Not sure if it's banned in Florida, but I wish it was.

[Giovanni]

If I remember correctly it's banned in Ontario, Quebec and New York (That's those I know of).

[Kikinchikin]

Totally agree. I wish Virginia wasn't the fucking tobacco capital of the world. We'll never get a no smoking in restaurants law passed. And for the record, "non smoking" sections don't do a damn thing. In my opinion they need to just ban it from public indoor establishments all together.

[LimpBIT]

I cant stand cigerrets. I smoke a cigar maybe once a month tops and thats it. I think they need to remain banned from public places because when I go out, I dont wanna be dealing with the same shit that goes on in the streets. Whats so hard about going outside to smoke anyway?

[MattxMosh]

This debate is pointless, smokers are a huge minority.

If you dont like it, go somewhere else.

And that goes for both sides. You cant smoke somewhere, don't cry about it. Go somewhere else. You dont like smoke and smokings allowed, don't cry about it, go somewhere else.

It shouldnt be government controlled, there NO proof it (being second hand smoke) causes cancer. Up to the businesses.

And jesus christ, everyone is such a whiney bitch.

[Kikinchikin]

Disregarding cancer, it is obviously proven that smoke can aggravate allergies and asthma in some people, as well as other respiratory illnesses. And even if you put the potential health risks aside, most people don't enjoy inhaling someone else's smoke. It's a simple matter of catering to the majority and the majority does not smoke.

[Derfud]

If second hand smoke makes people cough, it's probably not good for them. In BC, where I live, smoking is banned in the indoor areas of restaurants, people are still allowed to smoke outside however. Funny though, basically everyone smokes at my job, I work at a restaurant on the beach washing dishes.

[MattxMosh]

Disregarding cancer, it is obviously proven that smoke can aggravate allergies and asthma in some people, as well as other respiratory illnesses. And even if you put the potential health risks aside, most people don't enjoy inhaling someone else's smoke. It's a simple matter of catering to the majority and the majority does not smoke.

Catering to the majority on an issue that has to do with an individual is wrong. Can you not see that?


Someone lock this thread.

[ViperGTS]

I smoke.
Fight me?

Lol, I just killed it.

[Kikinchikin]

No my point was that a larger group is affected by a single person, and it seems rather stupid and inconsiderate for multiple people to be uncomfortable because of one guy. Smoking isn't something you have to do, unlike breathing.

[Mag-Mower]

I smoke.
Fight me?

Lol, I just killed it.

Tommorow at the flag pole, 3PM.

[Kyonye]

I'm happy that it is banned in New York. They also complain about it, that they are losing their freedom to smoke. They have the freedom to smoke, they just don't give a shit enough to respect other people who don't want it. If they want to smoke, let them take it outside, where it'll atleast rise to a point where other people can't inhale it. when you smoke indoors, it never leaves that room. Even 10 minutes after the person is done smoking, someone else can still inhale that shit.

I've watched my grandmother die from it, and my grandfather died from it as well. I will never do it. I don't allow my friends to smoke in my car, nor my place.

It is also annoying when students on my campus complain that they can't smoke in their room. so instead they stand right in front of the main door and let everyone, who walks through the door, take a nice whiff of it. then, in the winter time, instead of actually going outside, they like to smoke on the first floor, so I rat them out. those fucks want to make other people's lives hard, i'll make theirs hard. they can hate me all they want.

[Infernus]

I smoke socially.


And the wacky tobaccy is one of my best friends.

[Peacemaker]

I just recently started smoking. Bout a month and a half ago now. If there is a kid present and someone asks me to emove somewhere else Ill gladly ash my cig or move somewhere else.

Generaly speaking though Im an asshole. I flip people the bird when they dont like what Im doing and that includes smoking. Not because Im a smoker mind you, because Im an asshole. I know tons of people who bitch about smokers and how bad it is for you but then go and smoke pot. Morons.

I started up for one reason, Ive got 4 jobs, Im constantly stressed, its a stress reliever. Smoke two cigs and feel good, its like having a few beers with short term effects of such. Is it hurting me? Probably. Do I care? Not really. We all die eventualy, and with the way this world is quickly turning out, the sooner the better.

[Kikinchikin]

I'm happy that it is banned in New York. They also complain about it, that they are losing their freedom to smoke. They have the freedom to smoke, they just don't give a shit enough to respect other people who don't want it. If they want to smoke, let them take it outside, where it'll atleast rise to a point where other people can't inhale it. when you smoke indoors, it never leaves that room. Even 10 minutes after the person is done smoking, someone else can still inhale that shit.

I've watched my grandmother die from it, and my grandfather died from it as well. I will never do it. I don't allow my friends to smoke in my car, nor my place.

It is also annoying when students on my campus complain that they can't smoke in their room. so instead they stand right in front of the main door and let everyone, who walks through the door, take a nice whiff of it. then, in the winter time, instead of actually going outside, they like to smoke on the first floor, so I rat them out. those fucks want to make other people's lives hard, i'll make theirs hard. they can hate me all they want.

I agree. My thought is you don't need to smoke to live. You do need to breathe. If you smoking is going to make it harder for me to breathe, I think I should have priority.

[ViperGTS]

Mmmmm
Cancer.
Let me enjoy my death where ever I want.
Fucking laws.

[MattxMosh]

Theres another thread you could see this.

[BUGGER]

I don't like to smoke. My mom use to smoke everyday and my grandmother, so I know the smell, and I cant say I hate the smell. But knowing what it can do to me, I wont smoke.

If your a smoker i don't really give a rats ass. If your a homosexual, I don't really give a rats ass. As long as you can keep it in your pants, I'm chill with you.

Finaly I need to let out this little peeve I have, fuck you people who tell others they don't know how to smoke. Its like telling someone your limping on the wrong leg. WHO FUCKING CARES! whichever way it pleases you, smoke or limp the way you want to.


I'm done. :D

[LimpBIT]

Is it hurting me? Probably. Do I care? Not really. We all die eventualy, and with the way this world is quickly turning out, the sooner the better.

Amen to that. The way things are going Im not going to live past 40 anyway.

[Infernus]

Amen to that. The way things are going Im not going to live past 40 anyway.

Lol 40... me and my friends are seeing who will die off first before 25.

[Electrofreak]

I dated a smoker for 15 months. I'll never put up being in a relationship with somebody that has that habit again. Part of it was having to hang out outside with her while she sucked one down on cold winter days, part of it was having to try to breathe in the cloud of smoke that seemed to sit in her apartment, and part of it was kissing the chick after she'd had a few smokes... just not a good flavor.

[Giovanni]

I dated a smoker for 15 months. I'll never put up being in a relationship with somebody that has that habit again. Part of it was having to hang out outside with her while she sucked one down on cold winter days, part of it was having to try to breathe in the cloud of smoke that seemed to sit in her apartment, and part of it was kissing the chick after she'd had a few smokes... just not a good flavor.

Doesn't just affect the flavor of the kiss either... affects the skin's taste... my ex was like that too. I can stand someone who barely smokes... but she had to smoke like 5 times a day atleast...

[Kyonye]

Finaly I need to let out this little peeve I have, fuck you people who tell others they don't know how to smoke. Its like telling someone your limping on the wrong leg. WHO FUCKING CARES! whichever way it pleases you, smoke or limp the way you want to.


I'm done. :D

How many ways are there to smoke? honest question. I don't know much about the many ways of smoking, so I am interested in knowing.

[Hamma]

Smoking is dumb, but I deal. It's not allowed most places around here either. It doesn't bother me unless a place is so smoked up its near impossible to breath. :lol:

[TX3RN0BILL]

I don't smoke, never have (I resisted the urge, thankfully, on what I decided would be a principle of mine). I must say, the bad thing about smoke as a vice is that it harms more others than the smokers themselves. Even if the second-hand-smoke theory is never proven, there's still harm done to non-smokers. Ever smelled your clothes after a day at an office where almost everybody smokes? I think there should be a tax for smokers so that non-smokers get free suit cleaning from smoke... I'll start sending MattxMosh and ViperGTS my cleaning bills...

[OneManArmy]

you all smoke penis. there, end of discussion.

[Infernus]

you all smoke penis. there, end of discussion.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Squeeky]

I love to smoke reefer. lol im so high right now OMA.


Cigarette smoke makes me gag though :cry:

[Giovanni]

I hate drugs too... sucks don't it?

[OneManArmy]

??? I dont care if you do drugs or smoke or drink or shit on peoples lawns for fun. Just don't shit on my lawn.

[TX3RN0BILL]

I only smoke tires... :hass:

[Infernus]

??? I dont care if you do drugs or smoke or drink or shit on peoples lawns for fun. Just don't shit on my lawn.

But what if I do drugs while shitting on your lawn and smokeing....











...your pole?

[Electrofreak]

:ugh: :sick:

Why Infernus, why?!

[Giovanni]

But what if I do drugs while shitting on your lawn and smokeing....











...your pole?

JESUS TITTY FUCKING CHRIST! I'm gonna be having nightmares for the rest of the summer!

[Ivan]

??? I dont care if you do drugs or smoke or drink or shit on peoples lawns for fun. Just don't shit on my lawn.

Yeah please don't. OMA and I play croquet out there.

[internetn]

If someone wants to smoke.. let em smoke.. however I think that the resteraunts and other non-governmental owned.. stuff.. should make the decision whether or not to allow people to smoke in their establishment.

My family owns a resteraunt in the REAL capitol of tobacco country... Nash County NC... I look out of my window now, and I see tobacco.. I go to work.. I see tobacco... I walk down the street and I see mofos doing chew (which is nasty). Trying to fight off the hordes of smokers here is retarded. But anyways, we dont allow people to smoke in there, for the sake of the other customers.

Remeber that retarded Coke-GTA commercial?

[Ivan]

Remeber that retarded Coke-GTA commercial?
No. Please tell.

[Hamma]

http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30948

[Sentrosi]

I don't smoke. Rarely drink. Don't do drugs.
My life is my high.

Those people who have started to smoke; you're stupid and ignorant. And if I was a good friend of yours, I'd slap the cig right out of your mouth the very minute you lit one, take your pack and throw them down the sewers. You want stress relief? Go run for 30 minutes or work out. OMG that causes pain! Nooo! Better have the pain now than have to sit in a hospital hooked up to an iron lung because your one lung is blacker than the Ace of ******.

I had one of my wife's uncles light up right in front of my daughter. No sooner than he put his lighter away I slapped the cancer stick right out of his mouth, looked him straight in the eye and said, "Ever do that to my daughter again, and I'll do more than that."

[Ivan]

"Head shot bitch!"