something which could ruin the gaming industry

[culkid]

i remember when it took a long time for games to advance alot.. now they are advancing so much that you have to almost buy a new computer every time a game comes out.. i mean come on.. this game needs a 1GHZ 512 MB and a really really good video card... i dont know about you guys, but i certaintly dont want to buy a new video card every time a new game comes out.. PS THIS GAME IS GONNA RULE

[Navaron]

Here's the thing. Everything is demand driven in the gaming industry, we always want more power, graphics, and options. Currently the best comp out the is a 3.06 p4. This game's req's are a third of that. As long as it follows the curve by about a third, I think that's fair. I do wish they would make BB the minimum req tho.

[Subliminal]

Yeah i was wondering if all the players dont have BB will that actually cause more lag for us who do have BB? I know its not a major prob but it would be nice if everyone had BB.

[Navaron]

Every game says that they suppot dlup, but they really dont. You think anyone plays BF with a 56k? No. I see them dropping out pretty quick.

[phadE]

its always been like this in pc gaming. Our hobby isnt cheap, but the good ones never are.

[Arshune]

I don't think a game that requires something that was top of the line three years ago is too bad. Games have always been like that, they run on old machines they just don't run pretty. Eventually games will hit a plateau where everything looks photo-realistic and then upgrading won't be a problem unless you're a crazy mathemetician. However far off that is in the future is anyone's guess though.

[tmax]

isnt bb required to play this game? if it isnt people will just be wasting money buying a game that they think they can play

[HRR Raven]

10 years... ;)

[Hellsfire123]

Well, i bought my computer about a year ago. It wasnt top of the line, but i knew what i wanted it for so i bought to match that. I bought a geforce3ti500 just after the geforce4 came out, i bought 2 512 pc2100 ddr, and a 1900+. There isnt a game out since then that this wont run, and so far the only game i turn down anything is Serious Sam 2, dont know why, but it eats up graphics and ram like nothing. Then only game in there near future that im worried about is Doom III, even though my computer still ran the leak fairly well.

My point is, know what you want to get out of the computer before you buy it. Buy just short of the top of the line, and you'll be set for maybe a year or two. If you buy individual parts that just meet the min req for a game, youll end up with a fairly expensive money stealing paper weight. Upgrade with the long term in mind, not the short term.

Also, im on BB, but alot of my friends arnt. I would hope 56K is supported and supported well, or else im gonna have people moving in with me :lol:

[afex]

this has absolutely no chance to ruin the gaming industry.

developers would never make games that the majority of consumers couldn't buy, its called smart business.

[RaccoonOfEvil]

I don't think it will ruin the industry, but I do think they should slow down. I think this because it will attract more people to PC gaming and once you play PC you don't go back. Just a slow down for a little while would be good for the industry (soft ware that is not hard ware). It won't ruin the industry though because PC games are so much better than most of the others that they will still maintain a following.

[Navaron]

I disagree, a top of the line comp today costs a few grand less than a top of the line comp did 5 years ago.

[OmnipotentKiwi]

I completely disagree. I think for once hardware is actually keeping ahead of software (as you notice the hardware is out that is needed to optimize the game, but the software isn't ;) ). Also, as stated, computers are about 1/3 of the cost of what they use to be.

[RaccoonOfEvil]

Yes you're right the hardware and the computers are cheaper than they used to be. Which is good for me who will be trying to upgrade RAM and video card this summer.

[firecrackerNC]

my comp is a 1.5ghz GeForce2 Ultra 384 ram and its quite outdated now,costed about 4500 dollars 2 years ago,now i can get better for 1000,yet still with computers getting better like this it does get QUITE expensive,they need to not make a new comp for a year or 2 then when they do make one make sure its gonna be the best for years to come and have a reasonable price tag ,this is jus my opinion and im sure the rest of you will say otherwise

[OmnipotentKiwi]

Originally posted by firecrackerNC
my comp is a 1.5ghz GeForce2 Ultra 384 ram and its quite outdated now,costed about 4500 dollars 2 years ago,now i can get better for 1000,yet still with computers getting better like this it does get QUITE expensive,they need to not make a new comp for a year or 2 then when they do make one make sure its gonna be the best for years to come and have a reasonable price tag ,this is jus my opinion and im sure the rest of you will say otherwise

Never buy top of the line, buy 2nd to best.

Radeon 9700?
No, get a Ti4600 instead.

You save a ton of money this way, but still keep 90% or your performance or more.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by culkid
i remember when it took a long time for games to advance alot.. now they are advancing so much that you have to almost buy a new computer every time a game comes out.. i mean come on.. this game needs a 1GHZ 512 MB and a really really good video card... i dont know about you guys, but i certaintly dont want to buy a new video card every time a new game comes out.. PS THIS GAME IS GONNA RULE

My computer (1.4GHz) is over 2 years old and it will easily run Planetside.

Over the past 2 years I have bought one video card (GeForce4 ti 4400) and one chip of ram.

I am hoping that I can get by for the next two years on this computer and only buy ram. I don't think that spending about $2000 on hardware every 3-4 years is that bad.

[afex]

Originally posted by firecrackerNC
my comp is a 1.5ghz GeForce2 Ultra 384 ram and its quite outdated now,costed about 4500 dollars 2 years ago,now i can get better for 1000,yet still with computers getting better like this it does get QUITE expensive,they need to not make a new comp for a year or 2 then when they do make one make sure its gonna be the best for years to come and have a reasonable price tag ,this is jus my opinion and im sure the rest of you will say otherwise

you got robbed. bad. real bad.

that stuff was NEVER worth that much money.

i still have my 1.4, geforce 3, 512 ram that i got 2 years ago for around 1000.

[BUGGER]

Originally posted by Hellsfire123
I would hope 56K is supported and supported well, I read somewhere its supported.



Originally posted by firecrackerNC
my comp is a 1.5ghz GeForce2 Ultra 384 ram and its quite outdated now,costed about 4500 dollars 2 years ago,now i can get better for 1000,yet still with computers getting better like this it does get QUITE expensive,they need to not make a new comp for a year or 2 then when they do make one make sure its gonna be the best for years to come and have a reasonable price tag ,this is jus my opinion and im sure the rest of you will say otherwise Rip, geforce cost roun' $250, ram I dunno never looked, but I'm guessin at the most $100.

[Arthell]

You dont need to spend alot of money on a comp to play comp games (including MMO games). I was still using my 450mhz, 256 sdram geforce2mx when i started the AC2 beta. The game was very playable on the right settings. A few weeks later we upgraded to 1ghz and a geforce2 gts and i could play that game seamlessly with over 1/2 the settings maxed (not the very high detail patch that came out, though)

You can buy a top of the line comp and keep it for 2 years, upgrading little things here and there before needing to give ti a full tune up/scrapping it.

[Hamma]

The problem is people are still playing half life, which will run on anything.

Its due time that game companies start taking advantage of the hardware available :p

[RaccoonOfEvil]

I just hope i'll be able to run PS when it first comes out, that way I won't have to wait until summer when I can get a job (i'm still in school) to upgrade my comps video card and RAM.
I have a geforce2MX and 256 mb of RAM, but my processor is good (1.7 GHz)
I hope to upgrade to ati raedeon 9700 (prices should drop after geforce FX comes out) and at least 512 MB of RAM.

[CDaws]

Halflife in its hay day was a great game and people are still making mods for it even though it is very outdated by todays standards. I still find myself playing mods like CS, DoD, FA, and TFC every now and again. Hamma your right its high time companies like Valve, amoung others, gets it in gear and come out with something cutting edge like the rest of the stuff we've seen. Who's to say Valve isin't working in there little black box and developing something new. It's not very convincing given there past media spoofs with very little or no updates on hardly anything in like the past two years to at least let us think there're actually working on something. CSCZ is the only thing I've seen that's even close to something Valve has been working on. Hopefully Valve will bring something to the table in 2003 and get back out in the market again. It's been two going on three years people come on. Oh well, after Planetside comes out it wont matter any more. :D Lex you said it man, 2k or even less every 3 - 4 years isin't much to spend on a rig.

[�io]

I kinda agree with the topic but just to be clear PS will most likely only require 256 (it was 512 but Smokey said they were working on lowering it) and the "really really good" VPU min is a GeForce2 so you don't need to have everything top of the line. :)

[OmnipotentKiwi]

Originally posted by Dio
I kinda agree with the topic but just to be clear PS will most likely only require 256 (it was 512 but Smokey said they were working on lowering it) and the "really really good" VPU min is a GeForce2 so you don't need to have everything top of the line. :)

I say it all the time, but again, PS is going to kill your RAM. The one thing you should upgrade for a MMO is RAM, 1 gig is a very good number to have for a game like this. If there is too much info being processed at once, files are going to use virtual memory, which is very bad.

[Zatrais]

Theres a difference between what the box says is the minimun to play and what it actually is.... In the last few yeas the box minimun has been pretty ridicouls far off from whats needed to actually play the game....

Take unreal 2 min specs:
a geforce 2 MX
733 mhz cpu
256mb of ram.....

Somehow, i doubt you'll enjoy playing Unreal 2 whit those specs....

[Meshuggah]

Don't read the min reqs, read the recommended reqs. Min reqs of today seem to be more or less bad jokes:
run, yes
run on a enjoyable level, no

So sad, so sad :ugh: