Interesting weapon

[SandTrout]

Here is an article about EMPs.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/2/16/183535.shtml

My dad and I were disscussing the posibilities that this article presents. What if a hydrogen bomb was detonated above the US? What would hapen afterwards, and how would people deal with it.

[archaic1128]

There is a new and revised government report on how to survive a nuclear attack. It was revised in 1999 if i remember correctly. I will try to find the document and post a link, it's quite interesting.

[Unregistered]

The TV show "Dark Angel" is set in Post EMP America. The viery first show started off with Jessica Alba narrating a segment talking about Terrorists denoting an E-bomb, and screwing America.

[SandTrout]

Dark-Angel's scenario isn't with the EMP from a hydrogen bomb. If it was, every radio, car, and pretty much every mode of communication that they use would have been made compleatly useless with no hope of repair.

Dark Angel's E-bomb was probably a relatively small one detonated at a statigec location. We wouldn't be able to organize well enough to form a regeime.

[Arshune]

It's kind of moot seeing as how hydrogen bombs are infinitely more difficult to build than an atom bomb. Even if a country has an atom bomb, they're still quite a ways off from obtaining an H-bomb capable of disabling an entire country. All the countries that already have H-bombs are on good terms with the U.S.

[Fire_Monkey]

Tight, EMPs have always impressed me, first in games...now in life, when I was younger i thought they were theoretical.

[SandTrout]

Originally posted by Arshune
All the countries that already have H-bombs are on good terms with the U.S.

Except that Russia doesn't have great security around it's bombs which could be stolen. I'm not saying that it will happen, just wondering about if it did. After all, we are only recently on good terms with China.

[Format]

If any country was hit with EMP bombs, i doubt they would be able to get back on their feet. All their stock markets would be down, no transportation, everything that we rely on in todays world would be obsolete. That would suck :(

[Arshune]

If you can steal a 30-foot missile capable of making it into outer-space then you deserve whatever it is you took.

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by SandTrout
Dark-Angel's scenario isn't with the EMP from a hydrogen bomb. If it was, every radio, car, and pretty much every mode of communication that they use would have been made compleatly useless with no hope of repair.

Dark Angel's E-bomb was probably a relatively small one detonated at a statigec location. We wouldn't be able to organize well enough to form a regeime.

All I know is what the TV tells me. :D

In the year 2019 the U.S. has become a third world country in the wake of the Pulse - an electromagnetic shockwave unleashed by nuclear terrorists in 2009. This is Max's world, an unforgiving place even for a genetically engineered soldier like her. On the run from her creators and constantly in search of her past, Max joins forces with the idealistic cyberjournalist "Eyes Only." She's a revved-up girl trying to make a run-down world a better place.

http://www.darkangeltheseries.com/theseries/doc_showinfo.htm

[BaD]

Things like this, borderline, scare me. The idea that we could make such a thing is makes me wonder whether or not we deserve to be here. Sometimes i dislike real life, the news, i dont even watch the news anymore...I could die in my sleep tonight, i could die next week cause some whacko believes if he kills enough of us he'll go to heaven, i could die 50 years from now with grandchildren in a new utopia born into peace and unity...personally, the stone age wouldnt be so bad...if it was done to the whole planet, and not just one group, the new dominated beat down society. What was the movie with snake blisken/kurt russel...escape from la 2 i think? this situation reminds me of that.



Makes me wish i didnt have to wait so long till i get that boat and find an island somewhere to live on, i dare you to send a 254 billion dollar emp at my island biotch, id be sittin in the sand laughin my ass off. However, it would suck if you hated me enough to nuke me :(

AuTo|BaD

[Bighoss]

if America is ever nuked by a country that country will have the best parking on earth

[�io]

As quoted Dark Angel was something like that, EMP shockwave that knocked pretty much everything out. Should that happen well :scared:

[Sputty]

IMO if there were a maor war with..ok..there's no "major" enemies ot the US but theoretically if there were then one E-Bomb and the war would last about...5 minutes..And without any loss of life. It's a really good tactic that I'm sure was being developed crazily in the Cold War.

[archaic1128]

Ok heres the link if your interested.
http://www.ki4u.com/free_book/s73p903.htm

They even tell about tests of a EMP bomb, myths and facts of nuclear bomb etc. I found this e-book to be quite interesting.

[Subliminal]

I would just move to canada or luxembourg. Tell me who would attack canada. Not that everyone likes canada but no one would feel good beating up a bunch of guys on horses...


(no dis to any canadians in the house with herb about to become legal in your country I envy you :D )

[OneManArmy]

eep!!!!! :eek: That would mean no PlanetSide!!!!!! :tear: :tear:

[Tobias]

1)Some one uses such a weapon on us
2)Sub rises in one of the oceans
3)Sevral ICBM's are fired.

The USA is fucked, but now because of secound strike ability, everyone else is too!

[Ludio]

The E-bomb techonology they are talking about in the article isn't as exclusive as they make it seem. It isn't new either, America, Russia and India have all experimented with conventional EMP weapons. It is possible that they were tested in the original Gulf War against radar installations. They are actually the scariest type of EMP weapon because they only use conventional explosives and some electronic wireing. It isn't simple to make them, but they are a hell of a lot easier to make than nuclear weapons. They could easily be smuggled into a country by terrorists and although they have a small range (A couple of miles), if that was detonated in the middle of New York, or Washington then it would be pretty bad. The nuclear variety isn't as dangerous precisely because it is harder to get ahold of them. There are also some things you can do to harden electronics against EMP weapons so if you were prepared then you could prevent the damage.

In case you think I'm making this up, I don't have any web based sources, but a year ago the topic for debate in the US was weapons of mass destruction and I ran a plan based on EMP weapons.

[Confectrix]

After reading the Newsmax article, I can only say I was suprised at the level of exactness to which the weapon was described. I truly do not believe such a powerful weapon would have been so diffused through the media. Think of the nuclear weapons program back in the forties. Even the Vice President of the United States was unaware of the program.

EMP technology is in itself a very dangrerous thing and should be safeguarded as such. The level at which this weapon was described alarms me. When the media meddles around in the affairs of military projects, hardly do good results procure therefrom.

I do not mean we should be unaware of upcoming military programs, rather, I do not think the general public should be privy to the last detail; knowledge, it seems, is power.

This weapon, if it is in the hands of the United States could mean a new level of warefare never seen before in the world's history. A war fought without a gunshot. Guess it's time they move back to calvary and cannons. At the same time however, as this technology proliferates throughout the world, it is my hope the U.S. mounts as much research in developing the weapon as they do to protecting our electro-magnectic equipment.

No better way to defeat the most advanced army in the world than by removing the word advanced. Then the terms are equal.

My two cents.

[KeviN]

It makes me feel retarded that, as far as we have come with electronics, we are so dependant on them. What if Iraq has an E-bomb, and they detonate it over our overseas HQ, all those soldiers are gonna be real screwed. Most people don't realize it, but with the 212 "ways to be a soldier," not many of them are proficiently trained in combat.

[R KELLY]

do you think its possible for enemy troops (infantry) to invade U.S. soil just like when we deploy our troops to enemy soil.'
example: we deplyed our troops in the gulf and vietnam wars.

so do you think its possible?
IMO it would be hard to do that since the U.S. is a HUGE country
and well it would take a huge army to do it. nit to mention a plan to take out our defenses.

[Sputty]

Well, considering NORAD, Satellites, the air force , coast guard, and navy. It'd be hard to get by with anything larger than 5 people on a shack with no supplies. And when they get there a small police force could beat them. Form what I understand that is.