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Strygun
2006-12-15, 11:11 PM
Hey folks,

What are you guys' opinions on the iTunes program? Do you use it? Do you not? Why? Do you have any beef with it?

I'm thinking of switching over to iTunes (mainly for it's famed superb quality of handling music libraries), but also for the music downloading capability.

Speak!

Biohazzard56
2006-12-15, 11:30 PM
With all the kinks worked out of iTunes 7, I would definatley go for it. Just drop in your library and tell it find information. Has alot of options too, and if your going to use the music store. The DRM is already friendly; but you can find DRM strippers. Also. iTunes can share music on your network.

Infernus
2006-12-16, 02:27 AM
I use it.

It is good.

It does not suck.

It is good.












long live jobs!

Kikinchikin
2006-12-16, 03:16 AM
It is one of the only things Mac has done that I like. I fully recommend it.

Infernus
2006-12-16, 01:46 PM
Mac has done other good things... quicktime, the personal computer revolution, iDisk, provided something for microsoft to copy to make aqu- I mean Aero.

Rbstr
2006-12-16, 02:10 PM
I'm not a fan. It can be usefull and I have it on all the time at school becuase of the glorious program called ourTunes that lets people download iTunes streamed music.

I just use winamp. I hear that Mediaplayer 10 is kinda nifty.

GreyFlcn
2006-12-16, 03:10 PM
Hey folks,

What are you guys' opinions on the iTunes program? Do you use it? Do you not? Why? Do you have any beef with it?

I'm thinking of switching over to iTunes (mainly for it's famed superb quality of handling music libraries), but also for the music downloading capability.

Speak!
Yeap. It's pretty good for managing large libraries of music.
And I do use the download service.

But also I got a 10gig Ipod :O

Mag-Mower
2006-12-16, 06:12 PM
I use iTunes. One of the only thigs from apple I really care for. I love iTunes Store too. I would say go for it, but only if you plan to use an iPod, because thats the only thing compatible with the iTunes store.

GreyFlcn
2006-12-16, 06:32 PM
Not neccisarily.
Itunes has a nice work around for that.
Just burn a CD using Itunes, then rip it to MP3

DRM-be-gone.

Strygun
2006-12-16, 06:58 PM
Not neccisarily.
Itunes has a nice work around for that.
Just burn a CD using Itunes, then rip it to MP3

DRM-be-gone.
wouldn't lose some quality in that process (as well as waste CD-Rs)?

Rbstr
2006-12-16, 09:15 PM
yeah this will clear that DRM shit right up.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=myfairtunes&btnG=Search

Setari
2006-12-17, 09:44 AM
I personally use the iTunes store to buy a lot of music, because I can't find it anywhere else. I just strip the drm with QTFairuse 6 first.

Hamma
2006-12-17, 10:39 AM
When you strip DRM can you still pop it on an iPod?

I know nothing about ipods and iTunes.

Heavygain
2006-12-17, 10:53 AM
WMP11 Is really really sweet. It has a music purchase thing in it now, frankly its one of my favorite programs.

Setari
2006-12-17, 03:48 PM
When you strip DRM can you still pop it on an iPod?

I know nothing about ipods and iTunes.

Yea, all stripping the DRM does is change the format from Apple's exclusive .m4p to (in the aforementioned program's case) .m4a, so for example, I can play the files in other media players. I like having all my files in foobar personally.

Giovanni
2006-12-17, 04:51 PM
WMP11 Is really really sweet. It has a music purchase thing in it now, frankly its one of my favorite programs.

It's a fucking system hog thought.

Strygun
2006-12-17, 11:15 PM
Is m4a better than mp3? And, is it widely accepted among media players?

Setari
2006-12-18, 07:32 AM
As far as I know m4a is just as accepted as mp3, but you could always just re-encode to mp3 if you had to. I'll admit that I don't really know a WHOLE lot on the subject, but I know enough. :p

Happy lil Elf
2006-12-18, 12:18 PM
I use it for it's ease of managing 8+ gigs of music and in burning said music.

It's useful and doesn't have a ton of bullshit that comes with it, which is pretty much all I'm looking for in a music program.

Biohazzard56
2006-12-18, 02:15 PM
MP3 are the audio layer of MPEG 3 videos; MP4 is the same thing. Just the audio layer of MPEG 4. Which is the higher definition format, and the AAC codec is far superior to MP3. A 98k bitrate MP4 sounds just as good as a 192k bitrate MP3.

Rbstr
2006-12-18, 02:44 PM
Bio, that's not exatly right.
MP3, the audio file, is "MPEG-1 layer 3" it can be used for both MPEG-2 and MPEG-3 vids, but MPEG-3 was abbandoned and doesn't get used.

AAC is Part 7 of MPEG-2 or Part 3 of the MPEG-4 standard.

.m4a is just a way of differentiating mpeg-4 audio files from other .mp4's because MPEG-4 is a container format and can have a large number of differnt components. It is an AAC format and can be higher quality.

most mp3 players don't support anything besides mp3 and wma audio, ipods do MP3 and apples DRMed format only

MPEG-4 Part 14 was based on Apple's QuickTime container format.[1] Although MPEG-4 Part 14 still resembles the QuickTime format, it has been improved upon in many different ways.

MP4 versus M4A:

The existence of two different file extensions for naming audio-only MP4 files has been a source of confusion among users and multimedia playback software. Since MPEG-4 is a container format, MP4 files may contain any number of audio, video, and even subtitle streams, making it impossible to guess what type of streams are present in a MP4 file based on its filename extension alone. In response, Apple Computer started using and popularizing the .m4a file extension. Software capable of audio/video playback should recognize files with either .m4a or .mp4 file extensions, as would be expected, as there are no file format differences between the two. Most software capable of creating MPEG-4 audio will allow the user to choose the filename extension of the created MPEG-4 files.

Read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpeg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-1