iPhone, not just a rumor any more

[Jaged]

http://www.apple.com/iphone/

/drool

[Hamma]

That thing is fucking awesome.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/

[Ghryphen]

Pretty neat.

[Setari]

The 4GB iPhone will go out the door in the US as a Cingular exclusive for $499 on a two-year contract, 8GB for $599

It was cool until I saw that.

[Hamma]

The price, or the Carrier? :p

[Peacemaker]

Too expensive for my tastes, although the thing is absolutly fucking beautiful.

Edit: Ive been with cingular for years and it rocks.

[Peacemaker]

Wow, I just watched all the little videos, If I have money Im getting this thing.

[OneManArmy]

meh, my phone already lets me talk to people just fine. waste of 600 bucks.

[Derfud]

I like how the guy has Al Gore and Steve Jobs in his contact book :p

[Hamma]

:rofl:

Well its not really hugly overpriced if you think about all the functions it has, ipod, video ipod, phone etc.

[LimpBIT]

yea my phone calls people so im good.

[OneManArmy]

and I dont need any of those so at least to me it is.

I can't think of one time I ever needed my phone to do more than contact someone when I wanted it too.


sure I see all you stupid cunts walking around with earbuds tuned out to the world. well fuck you, I'm watching and waiting for you to walk in front of a speeding bus.

[Baneblade]

I paid 20$ for my Motorola tracfone, and it works just fine. Considering paying 30$ for a flip though, I like them better.

[firecrackerNC]

Im getting the new Verizon enVY for $130 and thats about as much as Id ever pay for a phone. Has everything I need including music player so I can be one of those cunts OMA seems to hate so much. Lucky me.

[Mag-Mower]

Looks awesome! Wish I had the money to waste. My v360 works fine, and so does my nano, so there is really no need for this. But its still neat.

[Infernus]

:rofl:

Well its not really hugly overpriced if you think about all the functions it has, ipod, video ipod, phone etc.

Perfect syncing with programs in the OS X suite.


*orgasm*

[Jaged]

Perfect syncing with programs in the OS X suite.


*orgasm*

Shit... the iPhone has a built in dildo too? This thing really is fancy.

[Peacemaker]

Honestly I wouldnt buy it if I didnt have the money to blow, but I sorta do. Ive been having alot of career success so to speak, the line I drive for fedex just got a huge bump in volume and that translates to more money for me. Im indedpendantly contracted and essentialy got a 20K raise.

[Hamma]

Buy one for me too :p

[OneManArmy]

whatever. people with neckbeards dont get raises.

[Hamma]

You know Oma not everyone with an ipod, or phone with a bluetooth earpiece wears it 24/7 like a cock. :p Some people just use them for.. driving. ;)

[OneManArmy]

for driving? wtf. I don't need a phone to drive...

now if you mean talking really loudly on a bus or in a resturant then yes. or maybe you meant listening to music way to loud in class or shit like I said just zoning out and being completely oblivious to the outside world then yes.

cocks.

[Hamma]

Yes those people are cocks.

To bad only the cocks only get noticed :lol: I use a bluetooth headset if I have to talk on the phone when I drive only, other than that I never touch the thing.

[Peacemaker]

I dont like blue tooth, unless they had wireless headsets for an Ipod thing, I woudnt use it to talk or walk into a store with it on like a "tool" (read "cock")

A nifty phone like that is just pimpin equipment, and lord knows I need more pimping in my life.

[OneManArmy]

well now that I got that asshole stuff out of the way. that phone is pimp as hell. and I'd love to have it. just not for 600 bucks.

[Peacemaker]

Haha. Like I said, Pimpin accessories. Its very nice and all the features seem to be integrated into eachother, like the map quest -> buisness search -> call that buisness. That was hot. The touch pad is a big + for me, and so is the easy email system.

[Infernus]

Plus its apple, and like it or not, they have market share now (please, someone argue with the numbers... I'd love for you too). And if anyone has used any of the more recent apple products, I think it is generally agreeable that apple products have gotten all around better.

[Jaged]

U.S. Mac Market Share
1Q 2005: 3.8***37;
1Q 2006 (ZDNet): 3.5%
1Q 2006 (AI): 3.6%

Worldwide Mac Market Share
1Q 2005: 2.2%
1Q 2006 (ZDNet): 2.3%
1Q 2006 (AI): 2.0%
Source (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/06/20060601164133.shtml)


http://www.tuaw.com/media/2006/06/PCmarketMacmarketpacman.jpg

Im really shocked.... i thought more people liked pies. I mean seriously, how can you not like pie?

[OneManArmy]

ROFL

[Ghryphen]

What does market share have to do with it? Think I missed something.

[Infernus]

Wow, you were able to quote their first quarter US market share and do it wrong.

Apple's market share is actually surging at the moment, with a 16***37; increase in 2006 and steadily growing. And like it or not, its going to continue to grow, believe it or not Apple's are selling more and more then they ever have. Whether you tend to like their hardware or their software, or not.

Gryphon: In business, when it comes to competitors, market share is everything.

[Ghryphen]

Yeah, but what does that have to do with the topic? You can have nice market share and a bad product. By that reasoning you should be still using Windows and not currently an Apple defense specialist in a topic that didn't prompt it.

There is also a difference in market share and market share increase. You can have 100***37; increase in 2006, sell more than you ever have and still have .05% market share.

Let down the guard a little there, going to blow a gasket.

[Jaged]

Even if it is 16***37; that is still way below PCs. Mac market share will never get close to PCs, no matter which quarter I quote.

And I am not a mac hater. I own an iBook. Its a nice machine. Lets just be realistic here. You said it yourself Infernus, market share is everything. And in market share, PC wins hands down.

[Hamma]

oh shush arguing PC vs Mac is like arguing Politics and Religion :p

[Heavygain]

Well, this kills my zune, good game. Exchanging it for an ipod tomorrow, seeing as I don't think microsoft has any faith in it anymore.

[Jaged]

I still wanna see (and laugh at) the zune phone.

[OneManArmy]

fuck apple and fuck thier shit. but that phone is sexy and I hope it promotes other companies to copy it, because honestly some companies do "apple" better than apple does.

[Infernus]

I still wanna see (and laugh at) the zune phone.

I still wanna see (and laugh at) someone using a zune.


A random sampling of college students at my school answered a resounding "WTF is that" when asked their opinions on the zune.

[Jaged]

fuck apple and fuck thier shit. but that phone is sexy and I hope it promotes other companies to copy it, because honestly some companies do "apple" better than apple does.

Unfortunately Apple has a patent on the multi touch interface. This is gonna be hard to copy.

[Rbstr]

Skiping the debate in the thread. Apple says they're revolutionizing the phone. But all they're doing is putting stuff that's already ou there in a preaty package with a mac OS. The treo has been doing this for a year or two now.

Anyway I like my phone smaller than a brick no matter what is does, this thing is HUGE.

[Jaged]

Skiping the debate in the thread. Apple says they're revolutionizing the phone. But all they're doing is putting stuff that's already ou there in a preaty package with a mac OS. The treo has been doing this for a year or two now.

Anyway I like my phone smaller than a brick no matter what is does, this thing is HUGE.

When the iPod was released there were other MP3 players. They just took what already existed, made it better with more storage and put it in a pretty package. The iPod certainly qualified as a revolution.

[Infernus]

Unfortunately Apple has a patent on the multi touch interface. This is gonna be hard to copy.

There's already a suit :confused:


But its over the name so its ok.

[Ghryphen]

Update: Yes, we saw the keynote too! We have some very, very exciting updates coming soon- stay tuned!

http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/

[Electrofreak]

I still hate Apple. The iPod has its own accessory aisle at my local WAL-MART. That's why I hate Apple.

[Hamma]

I have never been much of a fan of the Treo, I had one for a year or so at my last job and it was just shitty. I didn't like the interface, it froze on me here and there and PalmOS is just.. old. It's time for something new.

I got the Motorola Q for about a month, that thing was a serious piece of shit. Battery died in a day, lockups, crashes :rofl: I got the F out of VZW before my 30 days - they still tried to charge me cancellation fee's but I fought the bastards and won.

[Heavygain]

Oh apple, how I love thee. I am yet to be discontented with them now that I really think about it, the worse thing that has ever happened to me with them is the old ipod's moving parts breaking constantly. but they kept giving me free ones no prob, just exchanged my zune for a 5.5 video ipod and I have to say, this thing is fucking sleek as shit. In a good way of course. Posting this from a Powerbook G4.

[Electrofreak]

I have never been much of a fan of the Treo, I had one for a year or so at my last job and it was just shitty. I didn't like the interface, it froze on me here and there and PalmOS is just.. old. It's time for something new.

I got the Motorola Q for about a month, that thing was a serious piece of shit. Battery died in a day, lockups, crashes :rofl: I got the F out of VZW before my 30 days - they still tried to charge me cancellation fee's but I fought the bastards and won.

Get one of the new Samsung Pocket PCs. Those things are the shizzle.

[Infernus]

Oh apple, how I love thee. I am yet to be discontented with them now that I really think about it, the worse thing that has ever happened to me with them is the old ipod's moving parts breaking constantly. but they kept giving me free ones no prob, just exchanged my zune for a 5.5 video ipod and I have to say, this thing is fucking sleek as shit. In a good way of course. Posting this from a Powerbook G4.

12, 17, or 15 inch?

I was really upset that they didnt bring the 12 inch model along for the ride with the macbook pro...

[Ghryphen]

What is the battery life on the iPhone supposed to be? I can watch a TV show on my iPod and have the battery go dead at the end of the show and still have my phone for 5 more days. With the iPhone, "Hello, sorry I missed your call but I watched an episode of MacGyver, please leave a message after the beep and I will get back to you after I have charged my iPhone and before I watch another episode of MacGyver."

[Mag-Mower]

What is the battery life on the iPhone supposed to be? I can watch a TV show on my iPod and have the battery go dead at the end of the show and still have my phone for 5 more days. With the iPhone, "Hello, sorry I missed your call but I watched an episode of MacGyver, please leave a message after the beep and I will get back to you after I have charged my iPhone and before I watch another episode of MacGyver."

Lol. Thats good :lol:

[Heavygain]

12, 17, or 15 inch?

I was really upset that they didnt bring the 12 inch model along for the ride with the macbook pro...

17 inch :)

[Infernus]

Nice, They're really nice machines, with the exception of that whole Power PC thing.

[Heavygain]

Agreed, I adore this thing. A) OSX my personal favorite OS now days. B) Laptops are really damn convenient.

[Infernus]

Indeed.

thats all I can say

[Hamma]

Gryphon I think it has 2 batteries in it. :eek:

[Mag-Mower]

I guess it isnt running OSX... http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/13/1746234&from=rss

[OneManArmy]

fuck apple.

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/video-lg-ke850-vs-apple-iphone-similarities

[Peacemaker]

The apple one looks better imo.

[Infernus]

I guess it isnt running OSX... http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/13/1746234&from=rss

Actually it may very well be running some form of OS X.

As we all know, the iPods use ARM processors, and have for quite some time (since the second generation I beleive). Apple has never told anyone what OS they are using. The same way apple neglected to tell anyone that they had Mac OS X running on an intel machine in the basement at 1 Infinite Loop until they saw it as absolutely necessary.

Apple is a very very strong proponent of attention to detail, and if you haven't noticed the words OS X and Mac OS X get thrown around a lot. But a lot of people in the tech community beleive that they aren't being used interchangably.

A lot of people beleive that the iPod OS, and now the iPhone OS are derivatives of Mac OS X, called simply OS X.

If apple releases the OS information, building things for it gets a lot easier.

It should also be noted that is OS X is the iPod OS, then there is already third party development for it, in the form of the 5G games.


Let us also note that it might not be such a bad idea to use a different gui and a slightly different OS on a mobile device then the one used on a desktop or laptop computer. A launcher, rather then the finder is a pretty good idea, kind of like opening your applications folder rather then the entire finder. (or, in the case of windows CE, navigating the start menu).

And one more thing. Lets differentiate between the security of mobile OS's used by Microsoft and by Apple.

Apple doesn't care which OS you use on the iPod, it doesn't support running Linux on it, but it doesn't actively hunt people down and kill them for doing it. To them its still a hardware sale and in the end, thats where the cold hard cash comes in.

Microsoft, with the zune, on the other hand, does not let you fuck with the OS. They haven't released the OS at all to outside developers (you can argue that apple didn't either, but when they did release it, it was easy to understand why - they hadn't had any reason to yet.) Microsoft has every reason to. How many zune's have you seen since they were released? I haven't seen one. In a random sampling of college students that we did in my engineering class at University of Pittsburgh, only 2 out of 10 were able to say they didn't like it, the other 8 didn't even know what it was. If I were microsoft I'd be pushing that thing for all its worth.

Microsoft, no matter how big, is not invincible... and that worries me. Because the zune can easily be described as a failure, and because everyone seems to be more then a little - uneasy - with Vista (something that Microsoft has formally admitted they fucked up and that it will not be economically feasible for them to do again). Microsoft's stance in the market can easily slip.