This game deserves WAYYYY more recognition

[jamikey]

Hi all, I'm really excited about this. But one thing keeps chaping my hide. There isn't a whole lot of buzz about this game so far. I'm subscribed to a few pc game mags and there isn't crap about this game. I mean SWG had like 4 covers dedicated to it, plus a preview and its only in 2 beta testing. I think it's unfair becuase the more the word gets out about this game, the more players there are to play with/against. I think this game needs more buzz to it.

[Hamma]

I agree, its due time for a media blitz.

[Manitou]

I think Hamma should lead the media blitz in his "PSU powered" panzer! :D

[snipe]

there was in interview with dave about the game in one magazine, but i don't remember the name

[Hamma]

:lol:

[jamikey]

Picture this. we all get our brand new copy of planet side. put it in the pc,log on only two find 20 people playing. That would totaly blow.I think this game has Awesome potential but it needs to talked about. If the mags and other such media outlets don't start paying attention then besides us...who is?

[jamikey]

One more question how can i put one of those nifty pics next to my post?????

[xuur]

couple ways to add a sig picture


either past it in each time using the IMG button above or set it up in your profile ( a much better way )

[stick100]

If you are wondering why there is little coverage and buzz about planetside it is due to marketing. In marketing there is something called the marketing widow, this is why you will see tons of information in the beggining and end of a development cycle [3 years].

In the beggining they can say whatever they want, because they are trying to get ideas from the users [forum goers] but once the game design is pretty much set in stone [although all games have design changes once they see what is fun] then the developers have no real "use" for interacting with the forum goers. And talking with forum goers may actually be detrinmental to they product sales [will be explained].

At this point many publishers [the big company, the guys with "suits"] will step in and intentionally gag the developers from talking with the forum goers. This is done to quiet the game down, so that it can come back out in a huge explosion.

For example remember what happend to planetside about a year ago? The game had no updates at all for about six monthes, then the day of E-3 they started releasing tons of information to get people interested.

As this game hits beta 2/3 and the publisher can guess that the release will be about 2-3 monthes off then the publisher will contact all the magainzes and start giving out information, start buying full page adds, start buying the right to put up posters in your local game stores and so on. At this point the game will have tons of press and the buzz will explode.

The publisher does not want buzz right now, because if people hear about a game for too long [ultima 9, duke nukem forever, diakia, Zelda 2] people just don't care anymore when the game actaully comes out. The marketing window dictates that you hype a product for about 2 monthes as much as you can then release, then continue to hype for another month of so then slowly taper it off once it looks like you are not going to sell enough more copies to justify the cost of advertising.

The reason SWG has so much Buzz and has had it the entire time, is because its a really friggin cool game. The media just won't go away, even if the marketing guys hate it. It's one of the nicest looking games in a long time that is set in the COOL Star Wars world [not with all the fruity new stuff], that is offering many many new play experiences when it comes to MMO's.

[Warborn]

That, or they might not have much money available for marketing, which would say something about the money they'd have for other things, like server farms for example.

[RocketFodder]

What's this? Stick100 WRONG? No way! </scathing sarcasm>

The reason SWG has so much Buzz and has had it the entire time, is because its a really friggin cool game. The media just won't go away, even if the marketing guys hate it. It's one of the nicest looking games in a long time that is set in the COOL Star Wars world [not with all the fruity new stuff], that is offering many many new play experiences when it comes to MMO's.And PS isn't cool? SWG looks like it came out of a cat's ass. I must admit I haven't beta'd it, but from what I saw at E3, PS was lightyears beyond it in terms of "wow, my eyes are happy to be alive." To say it belongs in the "cool SW world" only shows you're a rather ignorant fanboy ;/

PS hasn't been hyped because the dev team had to nearly overhaul PS from scratch because they started to run with "neat ideas" that really didn't run parallel to the goal of PlanetSide (ie: apartments). So many things had to be re-evaluated, changed, dropped completely, that they didn't want to release all sorts of info and screenshots of things that weren't going to be the same in 3 months, or might even be dropped entirely before release. In an ideal world, you wouldn't know about a game until everything was locked down for release, but this is hardly a perfect world, so some mistakes were made ;) The important thing is, they recovered, dealt with it as best they knew possible, and are now getting ready for the final stage of developement so that we can all play :D

[Enkidu]

Originally posted by RocketFodder
What's this? Stick100 WRONG? No way! </scathing sarcasm>

And PS isn't cool? SWG looks like it came out of a cat's ass. I must admit I haven't beta'd it, but from what I saw at E3, PS was lightyears beyond it in terms of "wow, my eyes are happy to be alive." To say it belongs in the "cool SW world" only shows you're a rather ignorant fanboy ;/

Ignorance is bliss. Just because it doen't look cool to you, dosent mean that it won't be a fun game. Graphics don't make the game. If that is the case, then go play AC2. I personally won't play it because I have no intrest in Star Wars games.

Want to know why SWG gets so much attention? here is why:

1)Star Wars sells.
2)Star Wars sells and makes money.
3)People like to buy Star Wars crap.

SWG will sell more then PS. I can gaurentee that. So why dump a lot of promotions on PS when SWG will be the one that will bring in the most profit? SWG will appeal to a large amount of people and frankly, PS won't. PS is really an untested genre that dosen't have 30 years of history like SWG. This limits the types of players who will play PS.


PS hasn't been hyped because the dev team had to nearly overhaul PS from scratch because they started to run with "neat ideas" that really didn't run parallel to the goal of PlanetSide (ie: apartments). So many things had to be re-evaluated, changed, dropped completely, that they didn't want to release all sorts of info and screenshots of things that weren't going to be the same in 3 months, or might even be dropped entirely before release. In an ideal world, you wouldn't know about a game until everything was locked down for release, but this is hardly a perfect world, so some mistakes were made ;) The important thing is, they recovered, dealt with it as best they knew possible, and are now getting ready for the final stage of developement so that we can all play :D

I can only guess this is your personal assumption. I would like to see a link of where this was mentioned becasue I don't remember reading it.

[Hamma]

Imagine the pressure on the SWG dev team :eek:

not a job id want..

[Flashingfish]

Well Enkidu there is the fact that RF went to E3 and met the developers in person....

[Enkidu]

I didn't know, thats why i asked. :D

[RocketFodder]

:love:

[ZonemaN]

Eh from what i hawe seen SWG has as good or BETER gfx as PS and personaly i whill play them both (if i can affoard it)

[Lexington_Steele]

I am not too worried about the success of this game. I am sure that there is a sizable portion of the MMOG market who is craving skill based PvP.

[jamikey]

guys listen, say what ever you want but the point is this type of game is arguably the most popoular on the market. Fps are booming right now battle field 1942,mohha,anarchy online, the list goes on and on.The point is a crap load of other games due out at roughly the same time as PS have a ton more advertising,and there in beta right now too. Media = money/players. Right now The name planetside needs to be murmmerd throughout fps servers everywhere.

[Enkidu]

Its not just a FPS game though. It is also a persistant state world. The only other games that I can think of that are along these lines are Endless Ages and Neocron.

As a whole this genre hasn't been taken seriously. I would even venture to guess that there will be some FPS players who will be dissapointed because of subscription fees and no "instant action" unless you run around to go find it.

PS does look like it puts more FPS into it then the other ones out there, which will be its biggest advantage.

[Hamma]

Strategy Based FPS, your gonna have to think about and plan your attacks rather than just running around and killing. Im sure that will turn some people off

[Manitou]

Originally posted by Hamma
Strategy Based FPS, your gonna have to think about and plan your attacks rather than just running around and killing. Im sure that will turn some people off

Yeah bab-ay! Yeah!! Bring the panzers and meet me at Kursk... Ivan is waiting. ;)

[Warborn]

Imagine the pressure on the SWG dev team


Only until they realize that they can put out a POS product and they'll still make a hell of a lot of money off of it.

[stick100]

Do you mean like nintendo did with mario sunshine (release crap sell well on name)? Don't ever expect a mario game to sell that well again, they shot themselves in the foot (nintendo), and have killed their best franchise.

[Jinxmasta]

Anarchy Online? FPS? I don't think so...

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by stick100
Do you mean like nintendo did with mario sunshine (release crap sell well on name)? Don't ever expect a mario game to sell that well again, they shot themselves in the foot (nintendo), and have killed their best franchise.

I thought they already did that with Luigi's mansion.

[jamikey]

Hamma thats a good point but theres a crap load of people playing americas army and thats pretty strategic i think,maybe not as startegic as this but still not unreal or cs. I think people are going to like running around in a city or base and being a part of something big, not like B1942where your suposedly in this huge war and theres really like 5 planes 2 tanks and 6 infantry running around.

[stick100]

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
I thought they already did that with Luigi's mansion.

1 Luigi's Mansion didn't sell well so people didn't see how bad it was

2 Luigi's Mansion did not have the name "Mario" in it so people don't think of it as a "Mario" game

3 Luigi's Mansion did not offer a much MUCH worse version of a previos game with numeous design errors [can't tell what to do...] (IE Mario 64 was a much better design, and total implemtation)

[jamikey]

good point