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MrVulcan
2003-02-24, 04:44 PM
How dare Cartoon Network make a mockery of the best anime of all time... This should not be how the US is introduced to EVA.... its just too sad.... :tear:

AHHHHH!!!!!! :tear: :tear:

Doobz
2003-02-24, 04:44 PM
Eva?

OneManArmy
2003-02-24, 04:44 PM
Qua??? :confused: :confused: Please enlighten me as to what you are talking about.....

MrVulcan
2003-02-24, 04:51 PM
The best anime ever created is called "Neon Genesis Evangelion" and cartoon network is trying to show it. But it is rated R, so they are cutting a lot, they got the worst voice actors! and they are killing the dialog. They turned it from a great most famous anime in the world to a 3rd rate bla.... like turning PS into pong. its just too sad...

I highly recommend finding the real version of eva and watching it, it is very good.

They are even pronouncing all the names wrong..... :(

Doobz
2003-02-24, 04:52 PM
what's it about?

MrVulcan
2003-02-24, 04:54 PM
Truly it is hard to describe.... If i tell you too much it ruins the plot... I will find a good link for you....

OneManArmy
2003-02-24, 04:55 PM
damn the double post..... oh well guess I'll dance

:dance: :dance:

OneManArmy
2003-02-24, 04:56 PM
oh, I've seen that. Its a pretty addicting Anime. Very well made and will draw you in.. (hell for some reason I have a T-shirt of the 2 girls... :rolleyes: )

you know its your basic anime... hot little girls, giant robots, war.. etc..etc...

Doobz
2003-02-24, 04:57 PM
double post


we need a delete function!

Dire_Wolf
2003-02-24, 04:58 PM
It is a very good anime that you should check out if you like that sort of thing. I do. :)

MrVulcan
2003-02-24, 04:58 PM
http://www.animeinfo.org/featured/eva/einfoindex.html

here is an ok link to get an idea of what it is :D

Doobz
2003-02-24, 04:58 PM
i like some of it

i like the Macross series, that was cool

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-24, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by MrVulcan
The best anime ever created is called "Neon Genesis Evangelion"
Tell me more about this eva.

How is this compared to say Cowboy Bebop or Trigun. Is the art as top to bottom good as Ghost in the Shell?

What are they cutting out of the Cartoon Network version to make it more PG-13? Is it just nudity and language that is being dropped?

BTW I would prefer edited exposure on cartoon network rather than no exposure at all.

MrVulcan
2003-02-24, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
Tell me more about this eva.

How is this compared to say Cowboy Bebop or Trigun.

What are they cutting out of the Cartoon Network version to make it more PG-13? Is it just nudity and language that is being dropped?

Trigun is very good and one of my favs :D
But it is very hard to compare anything to eva...
I think that that description found here:
http://www.animeinfo.org/featured/eva/evathemeref.html
does an ok job of saying why it can not be referenced to much,
but just for a basic description of the VERY basics of the show, go here:
http://www.animeinfo.org/featured/eva/evastory.html
(read both, they are short and give you a good idea of what I am talking about)

Cartoon Network is cutting the core out of the show. They are making it to be a normal robot show. This is not what it is like. Eva deals with so many complex ideas, on so many levels.... It is more of a theory of mankind then a robot anime. Cartoon Network is trying to make it politically correct or something and not deal with these issues�

It is nothing like you have ever seen, if trigun is like watching a fishing show, then eva would be the lord of the rings.

there is jsut so much to it, you can not describe it without watching some of it. that link does an ok job of describing everything though :D

the art is good (but not the best) but it is the incredible story line that makes it so unique.
Some screens are here:
http://www.animeinfo.org/featured/eva/evapics.html

�io
2003-02-24, 05:16 PM
I got it (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000639E0.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg) , now you should, it 0wnz j00 f00l!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000639E0/103-4266272-6291022?vi=glance

Doobz
2003-02-24, 05:16 PM
the reason they are cutting it is because it will be mostly watched by watched by "1337" kiddies, generally people who can't think on a deeper level than peanut butter.

probly a smart business move

Dyganth
2003-02-24, 05:26 PM
You expected more of a show in a Toonami slot? They're only showing it for a week anyway IIRC.

�io
2003-02-24, 05:27 PM
Yeah i liked NGE a lot because of the intellect side, that's one of the reason i'm looking into buying the Lain series when i get cash, i heard it's a pretty good intellect anime. Anybody here seen it? Thoughts?

Dyganth
2003-02-24, 05:30 PM
TechTV showed Lain a few weeks ago, I didn't catch all the episodes so I missed alot, it did seem pretty good though.

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-24, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Dyganth
You expected more of a show in a Toonami slot? They're only showing it for a week anyway IIRC.

Is being shown on Toonami or on Adult Swim?

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-24, 05:40 PM
Ahh NGE :D

Shinji stfu and get in the damn robot! :rawr:

�io
2003-02-24, 05:43 PM
Yeah he's pretty weird, i'd be like "Ok so wait i get to hop into a giant robot and kick ass along side 2 hot chicks? Fuck yeah!" :lol:

MrVulcan
2003-02-24, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Dio
Yeah i liked NGE a lot because of the intellect side, that's one of the reason i'm looking into buying the Lain series when i get cash, i heard it's a pretty good intellect anime. Anybody here seen it? Thoughts?

wow... lain has got to be the weardest thing i have ever seen in my life, I have it and it is very good. A bit out there, but very very good. Never seen the english conversion for it though, do you know if they did a good job with it?

and Lexington_Steele, its on toonami

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-24, 05:45 PM
NGE is a great series but I like wacky animes a bit more. Irresponsible Captain Tylor, Martian Successor Nadeisco, and Vandread. Pretty damn funny space comedy animes with some serious under tones.

MrVulcan
2003-02-24, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Dio
Yeah he's pretty weird, i'd be like "Ok so wait i get to hop into a giant robot and kick ass along side 2 hot chicks? Fuck yeah!" :lol:
Not to mention Misato!! Oh man, I know that I would have jumped at the chance :D *Asuka is 100x more of a guy then shingi :lol:

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-24, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by MrVulcan
Not to mention Misato!! Oh man, I know that I would have jumped at the chance :D *Asuka is 100x more of a guy then shingi :lol:

lol... Shinji is a freak though. He jerked off on Asuka while she was unconscious! wtf is that!?

MrVulcan
2003-02-24, 05:54 PM
Nadeisco was funny, but I think that the funniest one had to be "child's toy" anyone around here ever seen it? That is funny.

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-24, 05:56 PM
nope :rolleyes:

MrVulcan
2003-02-24, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by BLuE_ZeRO
lol... Shinji is a freak though....

:lol: oh ya.... He is a very disturbed little boy isn�t he. He did that but kept on backing down from Askua, i mean i love that explanination of thermal dynamics :lol: and the scene where she introduces herself on the carrier :p

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-24, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by MrVulcan
Lexington_Steele, its on toonami

Then I understand why they would dumb it down. They are catering to Dragon Ball fans. :(

Arshune
2003-02-24, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Dio
Lain series
We need a "mindfuck" smiley.

�io
2003-02-24, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Arshune
We need a "mindfuck" smiley.

:lol:


And DB isn't all that bad, it's better in comic book form though.

Ludio
2003-02-25, 02:57 AM
Well I don't know what the differences are between US and Japanese Cartoon Network, but they are going to show Jin Roh here in Japan pretty soon as a movie special. I can imagine a bunch of little kids watching that :D. If they rate NGE as R in the states then Jin Roh is never going to see the light of day....

Lain is pretty screwed up, but the more you watch the more addictive it becomes. Anyone here seen Stand Alone Complex? Its the tv series of Ghost in the Shell, I have only seen the first 4 but they are pretty good, decent story and lots of action.

TheGreatCarbini
2003-02-25, 06:09 AM
Heheh i've got the whole box set of eva that dio showed there. I don't think the average person could sit through the last 2 episodes. I loved em all thats for sure, best part is that fkin 3 min pause in the elevator with Asuka and Rei, then Rei says one thign and Asuka goes off on her. Lol suprised the hell outta me i thought my DvD broke or something.

And theres that OTHER long ass pause with EVA1 holding that guy for like 4 min, I still haven't figured out that one.

But ya that was definately good stuff.

Lain hurts. I mean if your gonna watch Lain you gotta sit your ass down and pay attention lol. it should come with some guy who slaps you if you take your eyes off the screen.:)

MrVulcan
2003-02-25, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Ludio
Well I don't know what the differences are between US and Japanese Cartoon Network, but they are going to show Jin Roh here in Japan pretty soon as a movie special. I can imagine a bunch of little kids watching that :D. If they rate NGE as R in the states then Jin Roh is never going to see the light of day....

Lain is pretty screwed up, but the more you watch the more addictive it becomes. Anyone here seen Stand Alone Complex? Its the tv series of Ghost in the Shell, I have only seen the first 4 but they are pretty good, decent story and lots of action.

Konnichiwa!!
I did not know that you were in Japan, thats cool :D

I have not seen Jin Roh, is it any good? I have seen ghost in the shell, but not stand Alone Complex, ill have to find it :D

I do have to agree that the more of lain you watch (esp since the 1st time I saw it I watched it in 1 sitting :lol: ) that it becomes more and more addictive. Must be all the subliminal messaging :p

The difference between the US cartoon Network and the one over there is that over here, they destroy everything that the put on the air, since they try and make it politically correct, and not offend anyone in any way.
it is like if the put the story of Romeo and Juliet on there, they would take out the love story, the ending, and the family's fighting, since those things could offend someone. Its just sad.

Originally posted by TheGreatCarbini
Lain hurts. I mean if your gonna watch Lain you gotta sit your ass down and pay attention lol. it should come with some guy who slaps you if you take your eyes off the screen

:lol::lol::lol:

Pilgrim
2003-02-25, 11:08 AM
I can't believe someone here has actually seen Child's Toy... I really thoguht I was the only one :)

Lain is Kewl... but if I was going for intellectual I would check out Perfect Blue. Where I live we have an Anime store that rents! it rocks all!

Anyone seen the Trailer for the new Macross! That looks awesome! (Ok so off the intelegent Anime theme but still awesome!)

Also if you get the chance and in MIRC get the series "The Jungle was Always Nice Then Came Guu" Has to be the Funniest thing I've ever seen come out of Japan.

As for the Ghost in the Shell tv series... hehehehe

That's one we won't be seeing on Toonami... I've only seen 2 eps but... jeeeez

MrVulcan
2003-02-25, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Hunter-R
I can't believe someone here has actually seen Child's Toy... I really thoguht I was the only one :)

Lain is Kewl... but if I was going for intellectual I would check out Perfect Blue. Where I live we have an Anime store that rents! it rocks all!

Anyone seen the Trailer for the new Macross! That looks awesome! (Ok so off the intelegent Anime theme but still awesome!)

Also if you get the chance and in MIRC get the series "The Jungle was Always Nice Then Came Guu" Has to be the Funniest thing I've ever seen come out of Japan.

As for the Ghost in the Shell tv series... hehehehe

That's one we won't be seeing on Toonami... I've only seen 2 eps but... jeeeez

Finally! someone else that has seen child�s toy. I still have not seen the last 7 esp! (cant find them anywhere) :( but oh well....

and as for non intellectual stuff, anyone else here like "Golden Boy" ? :lol: "study study study study study" :lol:

Pilgrim
2003-02-25, 11:38 AM
Golden Boy is another great classic....


When I ws in Japan I watched a spiffy show called one piece... I'm waiting for it to hit american markets.

And my all time favorite of forever... for some unknown reason is still Fushigi Yuugi... Flame on you shojo hating bastards but that's just some great story telling

:cool:

EineBeBoP
2003-02-25, 11:56 AM
ARGH!!


The one night i decide to go to bed early (right after eva was shown on CN and after my wild rant to my 'rents about exactally this) I miss one of the sweetest posts i've seen in this forum so far!

unfortunatally I have not seen Eva as of yet, but seeing the first episode on CN, and knowing how great it was there, it must be EXCELENT on DvD, So i ordered "it", and downloaded all of the episodes off of Kazaa Lite to hold me over, till the box gets here.


|~YaY~|

Also, if you like the goofy animes, I dont think you can get more goofy than the tenchi series. Please dont flame me if you dont like tenchi. Unfortunatally I ahd to see it dubbed down on CN as well, and so can only guess REALLY how good it was.

Lets keep this post going!

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-25, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Hunter-R
Golden Boy is another great classic....


When I ws in Japan I watched a spiffy show called one piece... I'm waiting for it to hit american markets.

And my all time favorite of forever... for some unknown reason is still Fushigi Yuugi... Flame on you shojo hating bastards but that's just some great story telling

:cool:

FUSHIGI YUGI!? WTF OMG MAN PORN! :scared:

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-25, 12:53 PM
Best series of all time: Rurouni Kenshin

It had the best character development and story line. It had a good mix of humor in there even though the basis for the story was pretty dark. If you haven't seen it I suggest getting it. ALL 97 EPISODES OF IT!

MrVulcan
2003-02-25, 01:19 PM
I thought there were like 113 esp of it?

Anyway that is a very good series, never seen all of it though.

Pilgrim
2003-02-25, 01:27 PM
For the painfully uneducated in the way of the Ani-Dork

Fushigi Yuugi = Mystereous play (Not porn though if someone got it thinking so it would be a terrible shock)
Shojo = Anime By women primarily for a female audience.


so you uneducated goof Fushigi Yuugi is not Urotsko Doshi or any of the other add named porn... it's just good

Know a little something before you post

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-25, 01:29 PM
I use man porn very loosely when talking about Fushigi Yugi. I wasn't referring to it as porn I was referring more to the fact that it's an extremely gay series. Fushigi Yugi's target audience are girls hence the excessive "hot man" presence in it. It's nothing but a blatantly gay cock fest.

You want to start debating anime with me fine but if you wish to start name calling I can oblige you fucking moron.

�io
2003-02-25, 01:41 PM
/me can't wait to see complete Animatrix series

:D

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-25, 01:43 PM
Animatrix is amusing :D

Pilgrim
2003-02-25, 06:14 PM
AH I see

Misunderstood what you were saying and with the Kewl things from Monoke on your sig shoulda known better... so sorry for any name calling. (although you may want to take your ritalin bit over reactive don't you think)


As for Yuugi being Gay... well... there are a few ellements, but for those of us who have to share our anime with our wives :mad: You learn to appreciate the Shojo, especially with one as much action as Yuugi... still in my oppinion the best story telling...

Kenshin was great for most of it but the forth season kinda lost me... after how awesome 3rd season was I just felt it got weak. (the OAV's are some of the best stuff ever)

Anyone out there seen Macross Zero yet? I've only seen the trailer but it looks super kewl!

And as for an anime debate... Bring it anytime son... I've been doing this sense Battle of the Planets aka Starblazers in the 70s...

Pax

Ludio
2003-02-25, 06:29 PM
Jin Roh is extremely violent, but it has a deep story and is really sad overall. If anyone has seen Grave of the Fireflies it's like that (In the sad story sense).

I haven't seen the all of Rurouni Kenshin, but what I have seen is damn good.

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-25, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Hunter-R
AH I see

Misunderstood what you were saying and with the Kewl things from Monoke on your sig shoulda known better... so sorry for any name calling. (although you may want to take your ritalin bit over reactive don't you think)


As for Yuugi being Gay... well... there are a few ellements, but for those of us who have to share our anime with our wives :mad: You learn to appreciate the Shojo, especially with one as much action as Yuugi... still in my oppinion the best story telling...

Kenshin was great for most of it but the forth season kinda lost me... after how awesome 3rd season was I just felt it got weak. (the OAV's are some of the best stuff ever)

Anyone out there seen Macross Zero yet? I've only seen the trailer but it looks super kewl!

And as for an anime debate... Bring it anytime son... I've been doing this sense Battle of the Planets aka Starblazers in the 70s...

Pax

Ritalin? me? bah I'm calm :D

lol Starblazers. You seem to have a few years on me but I've been watching Japanese cartoons since mid 80's I was a bit young but meh.

Kenshin sort of got wierd later on in the series but I don't think it really lost anything. It was still great and it gave the characters a chance to evolve a bit more. I wasn't really happy with the ending but there is actually an OVA called the Seisouhen OVA (I believe that's how you spell that) that takes it a bit farther. Everyone is a bit older in it but it's still good. It was only available in Japan but I'm sure you can find it somewhere for download.

No I haven't seen Macross Zero yet. Where is the trailer? online or on another movie?

Jin Roh was pretty damn violent. I'm not a huge fan of dark and depressing animes but it was pretty good.

CDaws
2003-02-26, 01:34 AM
There's a ton of great anime out there old and new. I've been watching anime for a very long time and have come across a ton of good stuff. I'm not talking about that manga stuff either, althought there's a ton of that kind of stuff out there too. If you like good old fashion D&D RPG stuff check out Record of Lodoss War and .hack//sign or .hack a.k.a. dot hack sign or dot hack. And yes dot hack has been made into a PS2 title, that's probably where you've seen or heard of it before. If anyone truely wants to see any anime series buy or rent it because all the censorship to get it on tv cuts it way down and chops it up really bad depending on the series or movie for that fact. Take DBZ for example even thout over in Japan it has a lot of cussing and various other things that are cut out. Sadly to get the full meaning or effect of most anime titles you have to watch them in japaneese because even the meaning of words is cut down some in translation to english whether it's subbed or dubbed. Sory I'm a huge anime fan I know know ecactly how some of you feel when one of your favorite titles gets gutted by the censorship board.

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-02-26, 02:34 AM
DBZ was fine as far as editing went. I saw the whole series in Japanese and then saw what cartoon network did to it. You didn't lose much from them cutting out the cussing. Wasn't really a necessity to the series but what they do to some other series is just insane.

I saw the hack series it was ok but it was just a little too boring for my tastes. I was playing the game last weekend and it isn't too bad. They take alot of the anime aspects but spice it up a little so it's a pretty good game.