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xmodum
2007-05-21, 02:23 PM
Well hey everyone :) Just an update on meh. I still whore these forums everyday, but I'm too lazy to post.
I pretty much only play Battlefield: 2142, CSS, and Halo 2 right now, so if you want to add me, BF2142 is Xmodum, CSS is Xmodum1337, and Halo 2 is Myke4TW.
Shit has been crazy in my real life, like any of you care, (Especially Peace >.>). I actually got a social life, well, ok not really, I just got a group of friends to play games with. Hey, and now I'm even dating a visually acceptable FEMALE! :D Better yet, she is also a gamer, who is GOOD, and even her mom and twin brother play Halo 2 with us too.
Anyways, just a little update on me, I think I might start posting more if I feel like it.
Fuck you all! :p <3
EDIT: Oh, and don't kill me for this, but I have a myspace now, www.myspace.com/blessedthepeacemakers if you want to add.
Electrofreak
2007-05-21, 03:57 PM
Wow. You actually got a girl. A gamer nonetheless. Who would have thought these things could happen?! It just goes to show that this is an amazing world we live in.
:p
I myself am dating a gorgeous girl. I'm not quite sure how this happened. She's not an FPS gamer but she's obsessed with logic puzzles and games like Myst, so I cannot complain. I'll add you on my Myspace.
I haven't been on the computer more than a couple times a week with the way my life is right now... it's just a matter of never having any time. I'll probably build a new computer soon and move it into the apartment where I live now and try to keep in touch with people a bit more. Maybe I can manage to get back into EVE... who knows, it's possible.
xmodum
2007-05-21, 04:16 PM
Sweet, yea, EVE I don't know. I quit again, after everything fell apart in the south, I just didn't feel like trying anymore. Not to mention I had no money, and despite all the generous donations from peeps, I couldn't get a ship worth shit.
Thanks btw, and nice, you found a girl too, and here I thought you were gay :D <3
Infernus
2007-05-21, 07:21 PM
I would never be able to play Halo with any of my significant other's family.
I'm way to competitive (and good).
Peacemaker
2007-05-21, 11:25 PM
1. Wtf is up with the stolen Myspace addy from my name.
2. Nice to see you got a girl friend
3. Ill add you on myspace even tho I never use it... Facebook >
4. <3 Xmo I havnt seen you in FOREVER. Glad to see your alive and well dude.
Rbstr
2007-05-21, 11:29 PM
Peace your too old for facebook. Creepy.
Nice to see you around again, Xmo.
Peacemaker
2007-05-21, 11:34 PM
Too old? Im 25 in a month and a half... Facebook is for people in college and just out of college working for companies.
Infernus
2007-05-21, 11:42 PM
People still make new myspaces?
Knightwyvern
2007-05-22, 12:12 AM
1. Wtf is up with the stolen Myspace addy from my name.
2. Nice to see you got a girl friend
3. Ill add you on myspace even tho I never use it... Facebook >
4. <3 Xmo I havnt seen you in FOREVER. Glad to see your alive and well dude.
Heh, this is exactly what I was gonna say, except for #3.
Great to hear from ya Xmo.
xmodum
2007-05-22, 12:19 AM
Hehe, thanks guys.
Good to see all you again too, I'll post some more around here.
Oh, and Peace, I heart you too. :P
If you want to see who's taking away most of my time these days, she's my number 1 on myspace.
Kymmeh is teh roxz0rz.
Hamma
2007-05-22, 10:32 AM
Whats up X good to see you around again, glad you found a gaming chick.. hard to come by (under 500 pounds) :p
Infernus
2007-05-22, 10:56 AM
Whats up X good to see you around again, glad you found a gaming chick.. hard to come by (under 500 pounds) :p
Is it sad that I had to read that like 10 times before i realised it said 500 not 5000...
Oh yeah <3 xmodum.
Hamma
2007-05-22, 11:13 AM
:lol:
Baneblade
2007-05-22, 12:14 PM
Welcome back xmod nubbins.
:p
xmodum
2007-05-22, 01:03 PM
Lmao. Yea, trust me, she has an adopted sister who TRIES to game, and she's a bit on the heavy side. Not to bright either. You want her Rob? :D
Thanks for all the love, I think this is the biggest amount of love I'v gotten ever from you guys at one time.
Oh look, A bus! E
Rbstr
2007-05-22, 03:02 PM
Nothing against the heavier girls really Xmod, but I'm not ready to go for the dumb ones. I'm not that desperate or manipulative...yet. But these things are for a different thread or something.
I wouldn't want to spoil the only ***9829; thread Xmod may ever have.
Peacemaker
2007-05-22, 05:49 PM
Ok people. Nothing to see here. Step away from the freak. You may re-comence with the throwing of rocks. Dont feed him, he bites.
Infernus
2007-05-22, 06:35 PM
Awww... peace is just jealous that I <3 xmod more then I <3 him.
Electrofreak
2007-05-22, 08:50 PM
...Thanks btw, and nice, you found a girl too, and here I thought you were gay :D <3
Funny, I thought that about you...
OMG PWNT. :p
Baneblade
2007-05-22, 08:57 PM
My girl is Vietnamese...not much into games though. I'm working on that ;)
xmodum
2007-05-22, 09:18 PM
Electro you ass :D
I bought Kevlar body armor bitches, bring on the rocks!
<3 Unf :D
Giovanni
2007-05-22, 09:30 PM
My girl is Vietnamese...not much into games though. I'm working on that ;)
If she's asian and has a schoolgirl uniform... FUCK gaming.
Note: She needs to be cute for this to work. Otherwise stick that thing in front of a computer.
Peacemaker
2007-05-22, 09:57 PM
Electro you ass :D
I bought Kevlar body armor bitches, bring on the rocks!
<3 Unf :D
*headshot*
Infernus
2007-05-22, 11:41 PM
My girl is Vietnamese...not much into games though. I'm working on that ;)
Does she have the word "nyugen" in her name?
That seems to be a big trend among the vietnamese.
And is she psychotic. Every vietnamese chick I ever met was a total psychopath.
Oh, and one more thing, for my case study. Does she like caramel? This one is quite serious actually... for some reasons asians are like addicted to caramel. Every time an asian comes into starbucks they get either a caramel frappuccino , a caramel latte, or a caramel machiatto. And always with extra caramel. It's quite excessive. And half of them can't even say caramel. Me and a bunch of my partners decided to launch a study of how any single race of people can like the single most disgusting substance on earth that is Starbuck's Caramel Sauce. I really can't figure it out. Not that I'm complaining, it makes my job that much easier having some idea of what a person is going to be ordering.
Oh and green tea frappucinos too... but they're slightly less disgusting.
Baneblade
2007-05-23, 09:54 PM
Thanhphuong Dao is her name...I'll work on a pic. But she completely smothers mere cute into the pillow.
xmodum
2007-05-24, 03:51 PM
Oh, just so you have a picture, heres an updated pic of me, and one of Kim of when she went to Idaho to visit her mom and twin brother.
Just shit I did in Photoshop:
http://a431.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/13/l_3f38927077e2273f2bc786bc5d97a6be.jpg
I love her Cobalt Eyes:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5961/3312007049zh9.th.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3312007049zh9.jpg)
Rbstr
2007-05-24, 04:05 PM
Cobalt, Wow...I never expected that kind of sophisticated speak from you.
xmodum
2007-05-24, 04:11 PM
Stfu :P It's a nerdy inside joke between me and her. Go away Rob, you're already ruining my fun.
Peacemaker
2007-05-25, 12:02 AM
That looks like a pic Ive seen of your sister....
Giovanni
2007-05-25, 09:19 AM
That looks like a pic Ive seen of your sister....
Oh snap!
xmodum
2007-05-25, 02:56 PM
:O
Damnit! I'v been caught! Peace, you're a bastard!
Oh by the way, do you still play Navy Field? Been wanting to get back into it.
Rbstr
2007-05-25, 03:49 PM
Damnit! I'v been caught!
http://www.pitt.edu/~jas50/orly.gif
Peacemaker
2007-05-25, 05:55 PM
No, I honestly dont game much anymore. Just a little Xbox. Waiting for Pirates of the Burning Sea. Nothing else really has my attention.
Giovanni
2007-05-25, 06:38 PM
No, I honestly dont game much anymore. Just a little Xbox. Waiting for Pirates of the Burning Sea. Nothing else really has my attention.
If assassin's creed isn't grabbing your attention.... I'll kill you! :p
Hamma
2007-05-25, 10:21 PM
http://www.pitt.edu/~jas50/orly.gif
I will be having nightmares now.
Rbstr
2007-05-25, 10:30 PM
Your VERY welcome. I needed to share my nightmares with someone.
Peacemaker
2007-05-26, 12:05 AM
Sorry, not really. Gaming just feels kinda blah right now.
GeneralRazor
2007-05-26, 08:33 AM
http://worldofwonder.net/horn.jpg
Peacemaker
2007-05-26, 01:39 PM
Do you just post random shit and hope people like / find it disgusting/
funny?
Rbstr
2007-05-26, 04:04 PM
Yeah, see that pic had no bearing on the conversation. Whereas mine was expressing incredulity at Xmo's post.
xmodum
2007-05-26, 04:24 PM
I think I'm gonna throw up now.
Thanks Rob, you never fail at making my stomach explode.
And Razor, I'm sorry, but you're a twat. :D
Peacemaker
2007-05-26, 05:11 PM
Twat isnt the right word. I think hes just trying too hard.
Kyonye
2007-05-26, 05:17 PM
See, you don't feel like gaming much because paintball is just so much more fun. Same here, although I will probably be buying a 360 soon, to pick up some titles I like.
Peacemaker
2007-05-26, 05:51 PM
Indeed, Im a baller yo.
xmodum
2007-05-26, 06:13 PM
I'm a fucking nerd, and proud of it.
My comp now runs everything highest graphics hi-res smoothly, widescreen monitor, xbox 360, stereo for music out of the comp.
And Peace, if you bring of my family's PAST money problems, I'll kill you :P
Rbstr
2007-05-26, 06:36 PM
Xmo can I borrow $300 for a digital SLR camera? You seem to be floating in teh moneys.
xmodum
2007-05-26, 06:41 PM
Ohhh I would, but I just had my 18th birthday, and my parents have offcially cut me off. They finished the spoiling with a Zune and a 300$ graphics card, and a Xbox live webcam.
Now I gotta get a job and pay for my own shit, they don't even want to buy me food :P
Giovanni
2007-05-26, 09:22 PM
Ohhh I would, but I just had my 18th birthday, and my parents have offcially cut me off. They finished the spoiling with a Zune and a 300$ graphics card, and a Xbox live webcam.
Now I gotta get a job and pay for my own shit, they don't even want to buy me food :P
Welcome to my 14th birthday. Without the presents thought :lol:
My mom's an ass :lol:
xmodum
2007-05-26, 09:54 PM
>.>
Yea I'm a pretty spoiled little shit.
Peacemaker
2007-05-27, 02:57 AM
Its all good, I melted your battlecruiser.
Kyonye
2007-05-27, 11:36 AM
Its all good, I melted your battlecruiser.
Ouch... :D
Infernus
2007-05-27, 12:00 PM
YOU GOT A ZUNE?
This isn't my apple fanboi side speaking.... this is my practical side speaking. And it says "UGH!"
Baneblade
2007-05-27, 12:04 PM
You comin back to Eve xmod?
Knightwyvern
2007-05-27, 09:30 PM
Its all good, I melted your battlecruiser.
:lol: Ahh, the memories.
Peacemaker
2007-05-27, 11:59 PM
Yea, too bad the game went to shit so fast. Too much new stuff, not enough fixing of big problems.
xmodum
2007-05-28, 01:25 AM
Lmao, ASSHOLE, I liked that Ferox! :D
No I'm not coming back to EVE anytime soon. I'm either on Halo with Kim, BF2142 with my other friends, or owning up classic style on Starcraft with Kim's twin brother Chris.
Just like Peace said, the game added too many big new features, without fixing the existing problematic ones.
Peacemaker
2007-05-28, 01:41 AM
I gotta fix my PC downstairs again -_- Then Ill pwn you in 21'
Baneblade
2007-05-28, 12:00 PM
I've been playing it slow in Eve myself, mostly watching my alliance grow from the background while my characters skill up.
Rbstr
2007-05-28, 01:42 PM
It this "Your" alliance in that your leading it, or your's in that your in it.
Peacemaker
2007-05-28, 02:23 PM
I think I had a dream last night, I logged onto EVE, and was stuck in 0.0 with my pest. There was a hostile in local and I warped to him somehow at a moon with a warp bubble. He was in 3 diffrent battleships and a ceptor.... I woke up in a cold sweat reminded of why I dont play EVE.
Rbstr
2007-05-28, 04:24 PM
SOLST is getting into a small anti-pirate alliance based out of amarr low sec.
We're allies with CVA so we'll have 0.0 access in providence, and tons of lowsec small gang PVP.
I'm excited.
Peacemaker
2007-05-28, 08:15 PM
I need another carrier to get my stuff out of the station I was storing all my gear in.
Oh yea, who owns impass now?
Infernus
2007-05-28, 08:55 PM
I think I had a dream last night, I logged onto EVE, and was stuck in 0.0 with my pest. There was a hostile in local and I warped to him somehow at a moon with a warp bubble. He was in 3 diffrent battleships and a ceptor.... I woke up in a cold sweat reminded of why I dont play EVE.
I had a similar dream, only significantly meaner.
I was using my Myrmidon to mine in high sec for PH, when all of the sudden 10 cerberuses swarmed in and nuked me.
Peacemaker
2007-05-28, 10:31 PM
I dont even remember what a Myrmidon is nor can I think of what PH stands for... thank god. That game has lost its grip on me.
Rbstr
2007-05-28, 10:37 PM
The myrmidon is the new Gallente BC.
I ***9829; my Eos it's a myrmidon ++
Peacemaker
2007-05-28, 10:55 PM
Oh yea... thats right.
Infernus
2007-05-29, 12:44 AM
The myrmidon is the new Gallente BC.
I ***9829; my Eos it's a myrmidon ++
Yeah... but the myrmidon is just as bitching for less training.
Not to mention, us commies have trouble convincing the powers that be to drop funds for T2 ships.
Good of the corp and all
Baneblade
2007-05-29, 07:45 AM
It this "Your" alliance in that your leading it, or your's in that your in it.
I created it and for a time lead it, but atm I do more in the background then in the spotlight. My dad is actually the leader now, he has more time for it.
Baneblade
2007-05-29, 07:46 AM
I dont even remember what a Myrmidon is nor can I think of what PH stands for... thank god. That game has lost its grip on me.
Give me all your stuff so I can melt it :p
Baneblade
2007-05-29, 07:48 AM
SOLST is getting into a small anti-pirate alliance based out of amarr low sec.
We're allies with CVA so we'll have 0.0 access in providence, and tons of lowsec small gang PVP.
I'm excited.
NOS?
Peacemaker
2007-05-29, 01:38 PM
Give me all your stuff so I can melt it :p
Id rather sell it all and ebay the isk + characters.
Rbstr
2007-05-29, 01:52 PM
no, we are good friends with nos. We're thinking about joining -7-.
These guys provide roughly %30 of CVA capital fleet, and have been promised space after UK is taken down. We fit in perfect, popping out a carrier every 6 days or so in addition to the rest of our industrial power and having a decent base of PVPer. In essence we've been recruited to be the STK/CLS of the alliance just on a smaller scale.
Baneblade
2007-05-29, 09:48 PM
Id rather sell it all and ebay the isk + characters.
You would.
Peacemaker
2007-05-29, 11:04 PM
Point?
Baneblade
2007-05-30, 12:44 AM
You have no respect for the game nor the other players is all.
Peacemaker
2007-05-30, 12:52 AM
So? Think I give a damn? I dumped my fair share into that game and all I got was lag, retards, and a 4th job.
Baneblade
2007-05-30, 01:52 AM
That's because you played it that way.
Peacemaker
2007-05-30, 08:30 AM
To get the stuff you want, you had to play it that way -_- Either that or wait 3 months. Everything in that game was a money grind. It wouldnt have been so bad if inflation + T2 Market wasnt so messed up, but it was. If you wanted to fly a carrier but didnt have the money for it you have to grind endlessly for 2 weeks.
There is no magic way to not grind, unless you had a T2 BPO, or you made some really nice friends, and then the third option cheated.
Hamma
2007-05-30, 10:02 AM
I could not stay involved with the game because it moved to slow, I am to impatient to wait 12 weeks to fly a pwnmobile.
Rbstr
2007-05-30, 12:48 PM
Inflation isn't bad. Most t2 prices are falling. Most command cruisers cost less than HACs and are evilly effective. Minerals are incredibly cheap.
Cap charger 2's only cost 2-3mil now. AFs are mostly down below 10mil. T1 Rigs are down to the 10-20mil range.
You just want to play with the big toys, and those require either corp support or a big ass income. You don't want to put the effort into either. That's your problem. Also: There's no pwnmobile, you can't stand that, as you've got to win in every situation.
Hamma
2007-05-30, 01:30 PM
I have no desire to train and grind for 12 months personally to do something fun.
The dynamics and open-ness of the game are awesome though, hopefully another game/company goes with something like it someday.
Hamma
2007-05-30, 02:04 PM
Speaking of EVE it's in the new:
http://games.slashdot.org/games/07/05/30/0412241.shtml
:eek:
Rbstr
2007-05-30, 02:20 PM
Goonfleet AKA. Somethingawful, IMO is trying to fuck with shit.
Hamma: My post was aimed at Peace, I understand it's too slow for some people.
Infernus
2007-05-31, 12:41 AM
Speaking of EVE it's in the new:
http://games.slashdot.org/games/07/05/30/0412241.shtml
:eek:
DO NOT get me started on the goons.
I'll admit CCP hasn't handled its internal struggles as well as they could have. But now SA is fishing... all because the fucking dumbfuck goons got their asses handed to them.
Imagine, a noobswarm being beaten back by some of the easily most skilled players in the game. And thats not opinion about BoB on my part, thats fact - most of them have been playing since launch.
Mind you, BoB members didn't help the situation a whole lot, and if i were CCP I'd probably be stringing Dianabolic up right now - esspecially if they're such great "friends'
Peacemaker
2007-05-31, 01:10 AM
Rob, Ive got no problem working with people to get a big ship. I did, I got alot of help from people to get my carrier. I put in plenty of work to earn that carrier though. Ask electro, he knows. Ive put tons and tons of time into the game, and when it came down to it, the thing was a POS because it was minmitar.
I also put a huge effort into my corp. I worked to get the EOG navy going, then, we got fucked by our CEO. 10B in blueprints, gone. Once again, electro knows. I probably dumped half the money I had into the corp at that time, and when it came around it just vanished.
My issue was with T2 inflation, people were assholes, and flawed game mechanics.
So, please dont patronise me. I was not expecting a solo pwn mobile like you think I did. I was expecting something worth the half year of training and month of money grinding.
Baneblade
2007-05-31, 01:06 PM
My main issue with Eve atm is there is no real Capital gunship. Dreads are Siege Engines.
I want a Capital Hurricane.
OneManArmy
2007-05-31, 01:51 PM
I want a party barge full of space hookers.
Currently there are many people displaced by this scandal, which CCP is never going to resolve. They never answered the big questions in their "investigation." People are quitting, and many of those left behind no longer want to go to 0.0 because there is no incentive now that a direct link between CCP and BoB was found. And they never did say anything about the rigged T2 lottery, which did not help things at all. IMHO they can take a lesson from Blizzard on the DEV-player base relationship.... there isn't one. It all seems pointless when a dev can just rig it all.
Rbstr
2007-05-31, 06:02 PM
You need a tinfoil hat. The T2 lottery is not and has not been "rigged."
Bob is not getting active help from the devs. To think that the original incident was any more than a lone guy being retarded is, well, retarded.
This goons fabricated "scandal" is resolved as it needs to be. They're angry because they aren't winning, so now they're trying to blame someone else for their failings.
Honestly, the people that are quiting can leave, if they aren't rational enough to look at the evidence objectively, it betters the rest of the player base.
Infernus
2007-05-31, 06:09 PM
Currently there are many people displaced by this scandal, which CCP is never going to resolve. They never answered the big questions in their "investigation." People are quitting, and many of those left behind no longer want to go to 0.0 because there is no incentive now that a direct link between CCP and BoB was found. And they never did say anything about the rigged T2 lottery, which did not help things at all. IMHO they can take a lesson from Blizzard on the DEV-player base relationship.... there isn't one. It all seems pointless when a dev can just rig it all.
Yeah... but that won't work.
You see EVE has also been a rather tight-knit community. Half the people in BoB have been playing for 5 years, relationships tend to form. More then that, there were OOG relationships before the game even formed.
GMs that did "rig it all" were swiftly taken care of. Furthermore theres no way to prove or disprove that BoB got help about certain ISD agents through legitimate means.
A harrasment petition was submitted by a BoB member about an ISD agent (who had been reported before) and it was dealt with. Average turn around on those types of petitions has always been extremely low. Theres no way for CCP to prove or disprove that it was handled in an expedient manner because someone from BoB made a phone call or not.
Another ISD member was fired because he broke the NDA, and gave rather shitty details on the matter to blow a small thing totally out of proportion - CCP has prime fiction, which the player base can affect, but if CCP wants it to go one way they have on multiple occasions stacked everything they had against the player base. They've come clean about that before - for example the events surrounding the introduction of T2 items in the first place.
As for people leaving 0.0 ... The only people who seem to be dropping out of 0.0 are goons, tbh, not many others. My heart bleeds for them, really it does. (no really.)
The only issue I have with the whole situation is CCPs handling of it. They've been clinging tooth and nail to the NDA, and IMHO they should have just come out and said "this is what happened, this is why it was wrong, this is how it's been fixed". Mind you, as I mention, certain members of BoB certainly haven't made the situation easier for CCP at all. But your suggestion of having no dev-player relationship won't work.
EVE wouldn't be half the game it is if the dev's didn't play it. A large number of things in it are player suggestions that the devs took on after their own IG experience. They're too firmly rooted in the game world for their to be no interaction. And in a large number of cases it would lead to bigger issues. I mean really... "Sorry Bob, we've been friends for a while, and you can't play EVE because of it"... give me a break.
AND before you make up some redonkulous story about BoB and the advantages CCP gives it. I'd like to remind you that BoB has lost before, on multiple occasions.
I'd even go so far as to say that CCP should have an outside firm come in to be a 3rd party. Any legal firm would do, and CCP would win out in the end.
As an aside: If CCP is setting up goonfleet, goonswarm, noobfleet, or goonfuck, whatever its called to take a fall. I wholeheartedly support them, and wish other MMO dev's would take the same stance. Long live hilmar the great.
EDIT: I suppose rob was a lot more concise and a lot less bias (The major parts of what I said aren't bias).
OneManArmy
2007-05-31, 06:36 PM
that is why EVE has sucked and always will suck. If I want bullshit and politics I'll watch the fucking news. not play a game.
Infernus
2007-05-31, 07:03 PM
This isn't IG bullshit or politics, and could happen in literally any MMO
This isn't IG bullshit or politics, and could happen in literally any MMO
CCP should make a vested interest in researching why exactly it has'nt happened to this degree in other MMOs. I agree that a third party to watch over these things would be the best solution as well though.
EDIT: Read this - http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=529713
Infernus
2007-06-01, 10:19 AM
Ok... so basically he's been saying the same things I have, but from an insiders perspective.
Oh, and toss in the fact that he doesn't want friendships to effect inner-eve things. Is CCP supposed to spy on all of their employees? "You two can talk, just not about EVE, and if you do talk about EVE... WE'LL KNOW"
So far, no one has offered a practical solution to the issue - because there isn't one. Why this hasn't happened in other MMO's? Simply, Devs in every other MMO I've played have been very "hands off" and the game has taken a hit because of it. Planetside, Earth and Beyond, TSO, WoW... they've all be relatively depressing, but EVE delivers and has kept delivering for something like 3 years now. There is no practical way to fix the issue at this point, the only thing they can do is hire an outside firm to monitor their people that actually do play the game.
Baneblade
2007-06-01, 12:05 PM
I'll do it, and I'll do it with the name Captain Authority.
BTW inf what's your ingame name?
Infernus
2007-06-01, 02:08 PM
Used to be Malacore, NoS is taking care of that one for me. I'm Jericho Dewinter now... he's still relatively new. But he can bitch you out with his already kick ass friggy skills.
EDIT: And while I have the skill to, NO, I do not actually fly a myrmidon yet. The char is still too new.
Rbstr
2007-06-01, 02:27 PM
The channel PSU is still open, I hang out in it when I'm on, for nostalgias sake atm. Join so we can chat.
Mmm friggie skills, I did all races to lvl 5, AF and inty 5, and t2 weapons for them all too. I ***9829; frigs!
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