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Chanfan
2003-02-26, 06:01 PM
Just wondering how/if they have any plans to deal with / limit / or ignore the selling of accounts. I'm just wondering, as this is a problem with any MMOG.

With the forgetting and reassigning of cert points, it seems both ideal, and yet negative for account selling. You can buy any level 20 account, and get the exact type of character you want, by re-assigning all those points you didn't earn.

On the other hand, it also means there's no particular scarcity - any level 20 account is as good as another.

The real problem would be from the command points. It seems they have a nice system planned to encourage the good leaders to get more command points.

But, if someone buys an account with characters high up the command list - ouch. I guess the person will quickly demonstrate their quality - or lack thereof - for command.

But, on a mature server, it can get hard to keep track of all the accounts being sold, with new folks behind the old faces...

Any thoughts?

ABRAXAAS
2003-02-26, 06:03 PM
No selling ,nothing to sell, secept maybee a few certs deffinatly nothing anyone would want to pay for;)

Duilin
2003-02-26, 06:05 PM
No selling ,nothing to sell, secept maybee a few certs deffinatly nothing anyone would want to pay for


They said it will take a month or two for a level 20? Then thats probably worth a good 20-50 bucks from some people.

Ezcactus
2003-02-26, 06:14 PM
I say go ahead. let the bums buy them...

you have the reaver, but can you fly it? :p

Zatrais
2003-02-26, 06:30 PM
what do i care if someone buys a cep5 commander... theres always the /ignore command.

FraBaktos
2003-02-26, 06:31 PM
I know someone who sold an Asherons Call account for two thousand bucks :eek: ... some people are REALLY fucked up.

Hamma
2003-02-26, 06:45 PM
They estimate it could take up to 3 months if I am not mistaken.

Nightmare
2003-02-26, 06:55 PM
Some people just want to skip the low level hassel and just jump into the game as a powerful person that can go places. It's not as rewarding, but I can understand why people with the money would offer to take someone's account off their hands. Not for 2 grand though. I'm definatly gonna enjoy leveling up in this game though, seeing how exp is obtaining by killing. ;)

Streamline
2003-02-26, 06:58 PM
I believe that one marketing strategy being used here is to encourage ppl to buy accounts for all the empires. Dealing with the learning curve for each and climbing the ladder yourself. Points previuosly made plus Grief points should help encourage that. Why pay 50 bucks for Certs you can get ina couple of months yourself. Chances are if you buy your Certs you're just gonna get griefed down to none again. The one thing you can't buy is skills. Certs or no Certs... if you ain't got he skills to back it up. They'll just take 'em away.

Subliminal
2003-02-26, 07:06 PM
What are you talking about "taken away" if im not mistaken nothing has been said that you loose anything but your inventory when you die. This isnt an MMORPG where people go days and days without death. You WILL die so im sure that the death system isnt harsh* at all.

Streamline
2003-02-26, 07:30 PM
I'm talkin about grief points. TKing and causing your team grief. Can result in the loss of Certs. Get out there and at like a tard and they can restrict what you can do. Maybe not one stray TK. But say you buy Certs to 20th level and reasign them. But, didn't work your way upto it. Thus resulting in you crashing and killing alot of team8s repeatedly. With enough grief points Certs can be taken away. And you'll be restricted from piloting.

Tolvy
2003-02-26, 07:33 PM
Why bother buying someone else's character when you could just spend a month or two getting a high ranked character. Everyone has the same health, so the only difference would be a few certs, which can be easy to get...

Bighoss
2003-02-26, 07:45 PM
you would loose the sense of purpose of the game so quickly. That's what amazed me about everquest. Level 60's just kept playing and playing but what else is there:confused:

air_head1
2003-02-26, 09:10 PM
why would someone buy an account allthough it is sometimes a pain to get to a high lvl u don't feal any accomplishment.

Nightmare
2003-02-26, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Stream|ine
I'm talkin about grief points. TKing and causing your team grief. Can result in the loss of Certs. Get out there and at like a tard and they can restrict what you can do. Maybe not one stray TK. But say you buy Certs to 20th level and reasign them. But, didn't work your way upto it. Thus resulting in you crashing and killing alot of team8s repeatedly. With enough grief points Certs can be taken away. And you'll be restricted from piloting.

Who would kill their teammates because they didn't like the cert they chose? You're making no sense. If someone does TK a lot they woud lose cert points, but what does that have to do with selling accounts?

OmnipotentKiwi
2003-02-26, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
They estimate it could take up to 3 months if I am not mistaken.
I believe they said 4 for the average player. Then again, we aren't average players.

Streamline
2003-02-26, 11:57 PM
First of all i never said this and don't know were you get it from:::
Who would kill their teammates because they didn't like the cert they chose?

Some tard that thinks he can just buy an account @20th level still ain't gonna know how to do shit. It's really little to do with selling and more about buying. They structured it so that you wouldn't have anything to gain by buying someone elses account. It's about climbing the ladder and making checkpoints, so to speak. And if it ever did happen. Chances are, i'm willing to bet. Would result in the purchaser to pretty much hang himself.

What i'm saying is, even if you buy a high level account and rearrange the Certs to your liking. But have no skills to show for it. You might as well have gone through from the begining. Because your lack of skill is gonna cost you all thoughs Certs you just purchased.

If you don't understand. I'm sorry, but you never will.

OmnipotentKiwi
2003-02-27, 12:03 AM
A game has the right to make selling of accounts illegal and against the terms of use. Doesn't mean they will, but they should.

Nightmare
2003-02-27, 12:09 AM
Woah, calm down, I see what you mean, sheesh. :rolleyes: Where's the :love: ?

Just a little constructive criticism, but learn the difference between commas and periods (not the female-related thing). :ugh:

Streamline
2003-02-27, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Nightmare
Woah, calm down, I see what you mean, sheesh. :rolleyes: Where's the :love: ?

Just a little constructive criticism, but learn the difference between commas and periods (not the female-related thing). :ugh:

Sorry, i do the best i can. :love: I been told i can drag on. But sometimes theres no other way to discribe things over a forum. So i usually try to keep any first post short and to the point.

mikkyT
2003-02-27, 04:24 AM
why would someone buy an account allthough it is sometimes a pain to get to a high lvl u don't feal any accomplishment.

Number of reasons, in EverQuest people in ub3r guilds often had extra accounts for powerlevelling. They may have very well played their rogue or their warrior or their druid all the way up to level 60, then they had a second account so they could play 2 characters at the same time, bouncing experience off the high level to power themselves up (high level buffs, damage shields etc).

Secondly, when involved with high level encounters, such as a dragon or a planes raid, it was often beneficial to have a variety of characters at disposal.

These people do nothing but play the game, to them their character is their life, a cleric and a character who can port is essential, so they often bought one of someone who quit the game... these people can play the character to a certain degree of efficency anyway.

characters where not sold for $50 - more like couple hundred at least.

But in planetside I dont see the real point, theres nothing to gain, you wont need to put in X years of development into your character.

The only benefit I can see is to have characters in every empire on the same server, but you can do that by just buying another copy of the game.

red rez
2003-02-27, 05:37 AM
hi

i think ppl should be made to play the game to get to this level as i would enjoy personnally to get to this level on my own

in away a sense of achievement !

cheers red rez

PlasticGEAR
2003-02-27, 09:29 AM
buy characters... play the game, thats probably the stupidest thing ive heard in awhile. Play the game... I cant believe anyone is willing to shell out money instead of actually playing the game. Why would you buy the game if you didnt want to actually play it.

mikkyT
2003-02-27, 09:47 AM
PlasticGEAR you haven't played an MMOG before have you?

If you have played to a high level, you would understand - you might not agree - but you would understand why.

A level 60 character, taking months and months (my character in EQ was started in 1999 didnt reach level 57 until 2 years later) represents a massive time investment.

If you decided for whatever reason that you wanted a different character with different specialisations, you had to create one from scratch. If you did not have the facility to powerlevel a character people often bought characters. These sales would typically be in the $200-$2000 depending on items, level, class (clerics being very very expensive).

Meshuggah
2003-02-27, 09:57 AM
They might be bying... but I sure as hell aint selling! :D

BAKAVulch
2003-02-27, 10:43 AM
I was one of the most tked players in Tanarus. Lol, Trust me, if someone chooses something lame, everyone on that team will change their fire from the enemy to the cham running around sneaking up behind you.

BAKAVulch
2003-02-27, 10:44 AM
IT posted it int he wrong area? Thats lame

Hellsfire123
2003-02-27, 10:50 AM
Command lvls might go up for sale, as those are much harder to achieve then BR's. I probally would have sold my EQ account, but it was hacked and i lost all my stuff, so that sucks.

People will sell their acounts. It wont make as much money as EQ, but there will still be some. Live with it, lvl up yourself and you'll be able to kill these guys easy enough.

Chanfan
2003-02-27, 01:58 PM
I think his idea was on the lines of:

Purchase account with pilot certs.

Try and fly a galaxy transport, loaded up, without actually knowing how to do it.

Crash, TKing all passengers.