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Jaged
2003-02-26, 10:38 PM
My stupid of a mom won't let me see Black Hawk Down. Any ideas on how I could see this movie? Most of my friends have seen it and were talking about it in school today. It sounded awsome.

Flameseeker
2003-02-26, 10:41 PM
Dude, don't call your mom stupid. :love: your mom! Black Hawk Down IS awesome. In one scene, a dude in a jeep gets hit by an RPG, and it shows his upper half all scraped up, and then it zooms down to his legs, but they aren't there. His guts are all hanging out and crap. :blowup: Then, right after that, a guy is crawling on the ground for cover, and he glances over at a hand, and stuffs it in his pocket in case anyone might need it again. Lol, kinda gross, but a good movie.

�io
2003-02-26, 10:43 PM
This may sound simplistic but why not just get it and watch it without telling your mom?

Or do you not have 2 videos and/or DvD players in the house?


That or tell her it's for school. :p

Jaged
2003-02-26, 10:44 PM
She is an evil b!tch for more reasons than one my friend. And stop describing it. Your making me drool.:drools:

AztecWarrior
2003-02-26, 10:45 PM
The movie is very violent. Scenes range from a man with no bottom half and entrails sticking out to a man getting gibbed by an RPG to a surgery. All on camera.

You have to realize that this actually happened. It's very sad.

ABRAXAAS
2003-02-26, 10:53 PM
Go watch it at a friends house.

War Mongrel
2003-02-26, 10:58 PM
How old are you Jaged? I agree on going and watching it at a friends house cause that's just ghey your mom won't let you see it. Just think of the whole movie like the beginning of Saving Private Ryan, if you've seen that.

I liked the part in BHD where the 7 year old arab kid with an AK-47 tried to shoot one of the American soldiers only to have completely riddled his own father full of lead who came up behind the soldier just as he ducked.

mistled
2003-02-26, 11:02 PM
Show some respect. Your mom should bitch slap your head around so you can't watch movies at all anymore. But like Abraxaas said, just go to a friends' house and watch it. Or do you not have any friends??

Yuyi
2003-02-26, 11:05 PM
Violent movie. But a good one. Saving private ryan is nothing compared to BHD.

Doobz
2003-02-26, 11:16 PM
hey, mistled, don't rag on the man for calling his mom a bitch

we're young and allowed to :love:

believe me, my mom has been a bitch more times than i can count for really absolutely no reason.

moms can very often be bitches :)

OneManArmy
2003-02-26, 11:19 PM
why don't you just download it off the internet and watch it that way?

Jaged
2003-02-26, 11:19 PM
Thanks Doobz.:D

Bighoss
2003-02-26, 11:26 PM
Jaged how old are you maybe that why your mom won't let you see it. Otherwise there really isn't a reason not to let you, its a historical event and you shouldn't be denied the right to view a hollywood version:D

Jaged
2003-02-26, 11:27 PM
im 14

Bighoss
2003-02-26, 11:28 PM
go slap her.

Tobias
2003-02-26, 11:29 PM
Well you little kids are most of the time annoying little pricks who do not but eat, sleep, lie, and whine about not having enough money, asking mother to give you more, and then bitching when she wont. I agree that you need to be slapped, and then dad needs to take you out back and teach you some parental respect the old fashion way. BTW that movie is very good.

Jaged
2003-02-26, 11:29 PM
Good idea Big, will do.

Doobz
2003-02-26, 11:31 PM
my mom's just kinda weird about things sometimes, and at those times, she's a bitch

my mom's not real conservative or protective though, so i can pretty much watch anything short of porn (still do anyway :) )

seeing kids not allowed to watch good movies like that because their parents are overprotective conservatives who still live in 1950's no-shock-allowed suburbia really gets under my skin. makes me think a little less of their intellectual skills

Bighoss
2003-02-26, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Tobias
Well you little kids are most of the time annoying little pricks who do not but eat, sleep, lie, and whine about not having enough money, asking mother to give you more, and then bitching when she wont. I agree that you need to be slapped, and then dad needs to take you out back and teach you some parental respect the old fashion way. BTW that movie is very good.

good thing you were cloned and never went through that phase and went straight for "I am an ADULT (maybe) respect my authority":D

Doobz
2003-02-26, 11:34 PM
tobias, what you don't see is that my generation takes pride in being lazy

helps us distinguish ourselves from the generation-x-now-workaholics i guess

ever seen that movie office space? one of my favorite movies as it contains basically my entire philosophy in the theme :cool:

Jaged
2003-02-26, 11:34 PM
The wierd thing is, my mom is a huge movie fanatic. She usualy lets me see anything (even porn:D). There have only been two movies that she hasent let me see, this and Saving Priviate Ryan. She saw SPR and cried for an hour. I think she is projecting her hatred of all things having to do with war on me.

Doobz
2003-02-26, 11:42 PM
either that or she seems to be reflecting a current trend in america to eliminate violence from the media and replace it with sex and stuff

it's been this way in europe for years: nudity allowed all over TV, yet you look in their games and movies, you rarely find anything violent

now it seems america is catching up. for example, when was the last movie that had any more graphic violence than BHD? i can't name many, but it sure seems alot more movie stars have been going topless in movies

Jaged
2003-02-26, 11:46 PM
But she lets me see voilence in other movies. She lets me play GTA and all that. Voilence and sex are ok, war is not..... psycho bitch.....

Bighoss
2003-02-26, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by Jaged
(even porn:D)

honestly porn is not that big of a deal. Just really really entertaining TV that somehow lets the snake out of the cage:D

Doobz its because we're finally picking up on the wisdom that only comes to countries with age. Why get Bloodlust when you can get horny?:D

Tobias
2003-02-26, 11:48 PM
1) Young kids should not see most dirty porn, it screws you up at that young of an age, you dont need to know that stuff.

2) You may be proud that your lazy, fat, and foolish (stupid actually, but I dont want to call you stupid), But have some respect for the people that gave you life.

3) Shower, you smell.

Jaged
2003-02-26, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Bighoss
Why get Bloodlust when you can get horny?:D

LOL :clap:

Bighoss
2003-02-26, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Tobias
1) Young kids should not see most dirty porn, it screws you up at that young of an age, you dont need to know that stuff.

2) You may be proud that your lazy, fat, and foolish (stupid actually, but I dont want to call you stupid), But have some respect for the people that gave you life.

3) Shower, you smell.

Back in my day we had to walk 15 miles through the snow barefoot just to get to the...etc

Jaged
2003-02-26, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Tobias
1) Young kids should not see most dirty porn, it screws you up at that young of an age, you dont need to know that stuff.

And why don't we need to know that stuff? Do you remember when you where a teen? Our hormones are raging, WE NEED OUR PORN FIX! I mean I can't get any tail at this age (14), so porn and masturbation are the next best things. Depriving teens of sexual content is oppression.

Fire_Monkey
2003-02-26, 11:52 PM
Black Hawk Down is a tight ass movie, I just go over to my neighboor's house to watch violent shit. The wierd thing is that we own the matrix yet I'm not allowed to watch some stuff.

Porn = :nono:


:rofl:

Bighoss
2003-02-26, 11:52 PM
seriously why the hell don't you just carve out my eyes if you take that away from me.

Tobias
2003-02-26, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Bighoss
Back in my day we had to walk 15 miles through the snow barefoot just to get to the...etc

To get the playboy from the newstand, and we had to pay like.... five or six bucks! you kids just download your poontang off Kazaa for free these days, but its still bad for you.

Actually I have nothing against you seeing porn, all teenagers are horny, but Jaged strikes me as about 12-15 years old, so hes a bit young.
*edit* your 14? and your mom lets you watch porn? You dont need to be watching those movies at that age. Dirty little wierdo. If your obessessed with it you will never get it.

Doobz
2003-02-26, 11:56 PM
yeah, but without movies like SPR and BHD, nobody will remember these events like they should be remembered: as horrible events of sufferring, courage, and most of all, human confict

instead, they'll be remembered as emtionless events in history books

i mean, how can you truly depict a war like WWII without graphic images of immense suffering? if you don't try and depict what truly happened, then your just adding sugure to it and helping to make it just another thing in history because you thought that for some reason, depicting the truth is wrong

these politicians and activist's for Mothers Against Graphic Violence or whatever only work to fade the memory of those that truly suffered, to help wash away the human emotion of events that were created out of human emotion

Jaged
2003-02-26, 11:57 PM
Im 14. Is that to young to be looking at porn? Why the hell not?

Doobz
2003-02-26, 11:57 PM
tobias, i'm 14

does being young do something to discredit me?

Tobias
2003-02-26, 11:58 PM
Yes. It is.

At 14 you have no idea about sex, and shouldent, you should know that its something you want to do when your older, but, like drinking, is something that should wait till your 16 or older.

Jaged
2003-02-26, 11:59 PM
Please explain Tobias.

Doobz
2003-02-26, 11:59 PM
tobias, i'm not fat
i'm definitely not foolish
and i shower every night

thank you

Tobias
2003-02-27, 12:03 AM
Most of the stuff they do in those movies is either:

Nasty, no something you should do OR
Wrong, but looks better on camera

and it gives you the wrong ideas about sex. Its not how sex really is (for most people) and if thats all you see and hear about sex other then what the other 14 year olds tell you, and they dont know shit, then you will have large misconseptions about it. -

You should not really drink till your a junior or sinior (sp?) in highshcool and have the whole thing down.

Doobz
2003-02-27, 12:07 AM
well, then it's up to the parent to make sure the teen has the right conceptions about sex

if she let's him watch porn, then she obviously feels that he has the right conceptions, and thinks he knows that stuff doesn't represent real sex

it's the parent's decision, nobody else's

Jaged
2003-02-27, 12:23 AM
I don't watch porn to get an idea what sex is about, I watch it to get horney. I know real sex in not like that (unless it involves a hooker).

SilentCacophony
2003-02-27, 12:32 AM
Not reading all this, just saying BHD was a terrible movie. Sure it had lots of good action, but it was 2 hours of fighting. No story at all. fight, heli crashes, fighting, fighitng, over.

Doobz
2003-02-27, 12:35 AM
silent, i think you completely missed the entire point of BHD

BUGGER
2003-02-27, 12:47 AM
Skippin back to porn, then why does 6-8 grade have sex ed? or even 4rth (now thats somtin). I say some porn is ok, ya dont wana get bad stuff from it, but I like it.

And to all us mature ppl up here (in me moutain), we know that we are not ready........but we make hella lota jokes bout it!:D

As this wierd old guy said in the Sex Ed movie "Sex is wonderful!":D


Ohoy, does someone have a copy of BHD? I never saw it but I've seen SPR........I never got ta see hawk cuase didn't get time and mom wanted to see Sum of All Fears (that was a good movie too( I got it on DVD too!!!:D )

Jaged
2003-02-27, 01:53 AM
Whos side are you on?

Hamma
2003-02-27, 09:31 AM
To this day my mom still buys me the Sport Illustrated Swimsuit issue every year.

Subliminal
2003-02-27, 11:26 AM
Thinking that people arent gonna look at porn until they're 16+ is too old fashioned. Its alot diff now then it used to be. People arent forced to hide the way they look at sex anymore and id ay at last 85% of people are gonna have sex repeatedly before marraige.

Hijinks
2003-02-27, 01:07 PM
You should run away and join the army.

Arshune
2003-02-27, 03:52 PM
Fourteen year olds watching extreme violence? Eh...it won't bother them unless they've lead an extremely sheltered life and aren't prepared for it. Otherwise, it's just good, not-so-clean fun.

Fourteen year olds watching porn? Hah, why bother...I know a ton of freshmen at my school that are dirty little whores and man-whores. They could just go get some.

As for the drinking thing...the older the age someone's exposed to it and the more forbidden it is, the more likely they are to abuse it. Europeans put liquor in their children's drinks around age 10-12, and they don't have nearly the amount of alcoholism that Americans do.

Saint
2003-02-27, 03:53 PM
Hmmm doesn't the 2nd lvl of the American campaign in C&C Generals remind you of Black Hawk Down, man that was a good movie... :p

mistled
2003-02-27, 04:27 PM
Hamma, sometimes I wish you were a meaner guy, with more nazi tendencies. There's nothing quite like a bunch of people who aren't even old enough to drive pretending to know anything about sex. :scared: :scared:

Tobias
2003-02-27, 04:39 PM
:rofl:

Hijinks
2003-02-27, 04:54 PM
Then you should go kick her in the tits.

Bighoss
2003-02-27, 04:59 PM
we can imagine:(

Arshune
2003-02-27, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by {BOHICA}mistled
Hamma, sometimes I wish you were a meaner guy, with more nazi tendencies. There's nothing quite like a bunch of people who aren't even old enough to drive pretending to know anything about sex. :scared: :scared: With the way youth sex culture is these days, I bet some of 'em could probably tell you about some things you've never even heard of. Alright, maybe not...but man, seems like the kids at my school get sluttier with each new class coming in. Maybe that guy's mom is right, media is screwing the world up. But in a good way, maybe? Hm...

Hamma
2003-02-27, 05:17 PM
I don't comment on sex and values. :p

BUGGER
2003-02-27, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Jaged
Whos side are you on? Your mom is dumb to not let you watch BHD but let ya watch porn an crud (lucky........I got caught.........but it aint stoppin me, cause I'm gettin BearShare!:D ). Lets just say your mom is a whore.


And the sex culture rules here..........sorta.......none of the gurls wana go out yet.........most.......... :D :rolleyes: She hoooot:jawdrop: :eek: ;) :)


And media isn't screwin up the world (besides for mentaly ill ppl), its makin us less scared.........should.........




And join the Mariens, I will........or the US Airforce.;) ..........or go NASCAR...........NASCAR ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tobias
2003-02-27, 07:18 PM
I think some of you need to have your pubbies set on fire to teach you some respect. Oh, wait, thats right you dont have hair there yet.

BUGGER
2003-02-27, 07:27 PM
Dont start somethin you cant end, hehheh. honesty, I got lika big old fro down there, so dont lite it, or ya gona start the next biggest fire in the US.:D



And does someone know what kinda razor would be best for me......cause I really wana start groomin my face.

Arshune
2003-02-27, 07:27 PM
Tobias, why do you hate kids so much? :confused:

Tobias
2003-02-27, 07:30 PM
I dont, and BUGGER33, thats not a good thing to have down there, but you dont have to worry, cause if you brag about it you dont have it.

Arshune
2003-02-27, 07:31 PM
Even if he did, chicks hate hairy guys.

Tobias
2003-02-27, 07:40 PM
Very true. Hairy backs or really hair chests are a turn off. And you dont want alot of hair down there anywho. Atleast I dont.

Doobz
2003-02-27, 07:57 PM
wonderful

i'm making a good debate, with valid, well thought at points. so what does my opposition do?

Hamma, sometimes I wish you were a meaner guy, with more nazi tendencies. There's nothing quite like a bunch of people who aren't even old enough to drive pretending to know anything about sex.

I think some of you need to have your pubbies set on fire to teach you some respect. Oh, wait, thats right you dont have hair there yet.

pulls that i'm-older-than-you, show respect, shutup-you-don't-know-anything crap on me

that's a cop out.

basically saying that your points are right because your older, and because i'm 14, my points have little credit

Navaron
2003-02-27, 07:59 PM
That would be called LIFE.

Doobz
2003-02-27, 08:06 PM
i dont freaking care
when i come in here, i at least expect my arguments returned on the same level, not like what was just shown to me

Tobias
2003-02-27, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Doobz
wonderful

i'm making a good debate, with valid, well thought at points. so what does my opposition do?





pulls that i'm-older-than-you, show respect, shutup-you-don't-know-anything crap on me

that's a cop out.

basically saying that your points are right because your older, and because i'm 14, my points have little credit

Your 14. Oh, oh my God. Sorry. I know you know so much about life, having experianced so much. Dear lord, I am sorry. I will stand here, cowed by your worldy experiance. Or not. Your 14 dude, and actually Doobz, I would not have guessed your 14 most of the time, Jaged yes, you know, but really, people who are older then you do know a hell of alot more, and you should respect most of them, not all of them, for some are ass's or jerks who dont know shit, I know quite a few like that, but for the most part we are right.

Doobz
2003-02-27, 08:13 PM
i understand what you're saying, but you could have continued the debate with a little more respect for intelligence than saying i need my pubes lit on fire, then saying i don't have any

you may have lived longer, but that still does not mean i don't know more than you think

Tobias
2003-02-27, 08:18 PM
You know plenty, you think you know more then you do, but we all do, and you still know plenty, the pubbies thing was a joke. I thought it was funny. But thats me.

Doobz
2003-02-27, 08:21 PM
well, sorry if i overreacted. was still in debate mode :)

Hamma
2003-02-27, 08:22 PM
We are all supposed to be on the same level here. More :love:

Tobias
2003-02-27, 08:24 PM
Us Vanu are on a whole nother plane of egsistance, we have.... evolved...we are... special, but yes I :love: most people here ... in a completely hetrosexual way.... sorry for insualting you for being young.

Arshune
2003-02-27, 09:39 PM
Eh...it depends on what you're talking about. Most of the time, adults do have a little bit deeper understanding of life, but I'll go out on a limb and say they're not as in touch with their emotions as much as kids because of all the restraint they need to function in the world. When a kid is feeling sad, they cry. When an adult is feeling sad, they express thousands of subtle signs they don't even know about.

As for adults knowing more in general, that's very debatable. I'll match wits with anyone older than me in a game of trivia, any day.

I also want to say that firsthand experience isn't always the precursor to knowledge. Do you have to touch a stove to learn that it's hot and could burn you? Nah. Experience helps a lot, but it's not essential to learning.

I just wanted to say that. :D

Edit: this message in no way implies that I know anything about life. I reserve the right to act like a jackass in the name of youth, because quite frankly, it just looks funny when old people do it.

BUGGER
2003-02-27, 09:50 PM
I was jokin too, but there is hair down there. i'd show ya a pic but I'm not gay.......and I hella hope you and/or anybody else here, cuase I dont wana turn on any dudes round here........:eek:



And j/w, whats so bad bout the hairy penis? I mean all ya will get really is genetal lice (more likely I mean), right? And possibly less gurls, right?



And so what if I'm young and dumb?:rolleyes:

Arshune
2003-02-27, 09:58 PM
You ever get a hair in your mouth? Preeeeetty unpleasant experience. Well...er...think about what women do for their men sometimes. That's why a hairy wang is bad. God, I feel dirty for even explaining it, but the children must know! Not to mention that stuff gets caught in hair. Think getting gum in your hair, except replace gum with cookie crumbs and hair with navel.

So remember kids, GOOD HYGIENE IS YOUR FRIEND! Keep yourself well-groomed. :(

Doobz
2003-02-27, 10:00 PM
heheh, yes tobias, the vanu are on such a high level plane of existence, that everything's spelled differently! :D

Jaged
2003-02-27, 10:02 PM
Yay, im happy! I just saw BHD. On my way home from school I rented it and finished watching it like 10 min before my mom got home. It was a great movie. I think it did me more good than bad. I was thinking of possibly joining the SEALS or something when I got older, but after seeing that movie, HELL NO! It showed me what war is realy like. None of that de-emotionalized text book crap. And anyone who thinks me watching that movie makes me want to kill people is full of crap. And btw, i have pleanty of pubes. :D

Arshune
2003-02-27, 10:16 PM
People who say that violent entertainment causes violent behavior have no evidence to back their argument up. Every study that has linked violence to violent media has failed to provide that crucial piece of evidence that indicates the entertainment is the cause and that violent people don't just consume more violent media by nature.

And didn't we already establish that pubes are bad? I'm thinking of taking a bath in hair remover now. :(

Bighoss
2003-02-27, 10:19 PM
a point I would like to make AHEM...

Just because your older and expierenced more life doesn't make you better at it.

and jaged you kinda need to be willing to die for your country for a GOOD cause and not just evade war altogether.

BUGGER
2003-02-27, 11:08 PM
Yeah, so what, you may blow up. Veitnam 100s died, not because they were dumb and thought war would be like the books, but no, cuase they wanted to treat they're country. And dont think you will/would make it in easly, for first you gota go through bootcamp an all, now that will be hell, dont think you'll take the easy way outa that......anyways.....i'll probly be in da AirForce.......

And if ya thought that was bad.......I say watch Saving Private Ryan, and watch the beach scene, for if ya do go out into hell, thats the color the water is gona be...... and you'll see half blow up bodys. ;)


And A, goodpoint. And I know what it is........I even know what they call it, try not to treat me lika lil boy, for first it makes me look dumb, second it will make me look really dumb if we talked in person......cause a 13 year old rarely reaches 6"1'...and it'll make me look retarded (mentaly I mean). but yea, hair sucks........theres another reason why I dont wana be a woman, not all pleasure is fun and in this case tasty.:eek:


And some1 let me borrow BHD!!!!!!!!

Doobz
2003-02-27, 11:48 PM
100s? try 30,000

Bighoss
2003-02-27, 11:52 PM
the difference between NAM and WW2 was the WW2 had to be fought it was a true good vs evil scenario. The problem with NAM and was that there was no good reason for all the GI's to die for something that really isn't american related. That was what the protests were about... I think could be wrong

OneManArmy
2003-02-27, 11:54 PM
ok I havent been following this thread but... HOW THE HELL did it get from mothers to WWII/NAM???? WTF are you guys doing to this place?? :huh:

mistled
2003-02-28, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by Doobz
pulls that i'm-older-than-you, show respect, shutup-you-don't-know-anything crap on me

that's a cop out.

basically saying that your points are right because your older, and because i'm 14, my points have little credit I wasn't debating anyone. I don't even think this thread has any debates going on in it. All I see that relates to my posts is one person calling their mother a bitch; me telling them they shouldn't; you saying that they should and that your mom is a bitch too; a bunch of virgins talking about sex; me making a comment in jest to Hamma. That's it.

Anywhat, all that's annoyed me on this thread is your lack of respect for the woman who is raising you. Like I said to Jaged, show some respect for your mother. If you can't even show some respect for the woman that gave you birth, then why should the rest of us listen to you?? Why should we assume that you would respect our opinions in debate if you can't even respect your own flesh and blood?? If I ignore your comments, it is not because of your age, it is because of your attitude.

Format
2003-02-28, 12:04 AM
Enough with the hate. :love:

Bighoss
2003-02-28, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by {BOHICA}mistled
I wasn't debating anyone. I don't even think this thread has any debates going on in it. All I see that relates to my posts is one person calling their mother a bitch; me telling them they shouldn't; you saying that they should and that your mom is a bitch too; a bunch of virgins talking about sex; me making a comment in jest to Hamma. That's it.

Anywhat, all that's annoyed me on this thread is your lack of respect for the woman who is raising you. Like I said to Jaged, show some respect for your mother. If you can't even show some respect for the woman that gave you birth, then why should the rest of us listen to you?? Why should we assume that you would respect our opinions in debate if you can't even respect your own flesh and blood?? If I ignore your comments, it is not because of your age, it is because of your attitude.

WELL PUT... I just hope I wasn't one of the stupid people, damnit I think I was:(

Bighoss
2003-02-28, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by OneManArmy
ok I havent been following this thread but... HOW THE HELL did it get from mothers to WWII/NAM???? WTF are you guys doing to this place?? :huh:

its just how conversations work. Look at dinner conversations it starts off with HOW WAS YOUR DAY. end of conversation "so that's why we should drain all the water out of the loch ness lake"

IT JUST DOES

mistled
2003-02-28, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by Bighoss
WELL PUT... I just hope I wasn't one of the stupid people, damnit I think I was:( I didn't call anyone stupid. I just called people inexperienced is all. :)

Doobz
2003-02-28, 12:35 AM
sorry mistled, it just seemed as though your comment might have been directed at me

Tobias
2003-02-28, 12:38 AM
I think that those of us who have had more experiance with life have seen that life is hard, and is proably a hell of alot harder when raising a kid, so we have lots of respect for our mothers, and it ticks us off if we see someone who has no real idea of how hard life can be (and if you still live with your parents you dont) disrespecting the person who gave them life.

Jaged
2003-02-28, 12:45 AM
I respect my mom for giving birth to me and raising me. That was never in question. But as a person she can get realy annoying and on bad days (PMS) turn into a bitch beyond reason. She can be a realy nice person, and i love and respect that side of her. But, when she acts like a bitch, i get pissed.

Doobz
2003-02-28, 12:46 AM
^
pretty much goes for me too

EDIT: would have worked better if this post didn't START A NEW DANG PAGE! world's out to cause me stress in any way, shape, or form, i swear

Jaged
2003-02-28, 12:48 AM
Why do I feel like Doobz is my clone?

Jaged
2003-02-28, 12:56 AM
Oh, and doobz, is that sig from Splinter Cell?

Pilgrim
2003-02-28, 01:52 AM
Oversensitivity a sign of youth HEHEHE

(BTW I can't spell... stupid public education and I work in a career in which spelling is not essential, so I've never taught myself)

I remember hating my parents and all their stupid rules when I was young (MANY MANY Years ago) but I tell ya things that seemed earth shaking at the time were all trully petty and small.

I had to go through allot of years hating my parents and would highly encourage all you youngsters to get over it. Parents do what they think is right... rarely do their children see the same point no matter how calmly you try to explain it to them.

I've now lost one of my parrents (my father) and cherish the other...

Love'em while you got'em cause you'll miss'em when they're gone!

PAX

Dqua
2003-02-28, 10:13 PM
To the one who said BHD had a bad story:

You must not have a clue that this was a real incident, in which 3000+ somalies(sp?) died and 24 american's died (state department only acknowledges 18...)

And to Jaged you should read the book this movie was based on. Might give you a better understanding. And to the watching over porn at an early age, c`est la vie, it fucks with your head, you won't realize it till you're older but you will, if I could do it all over I would've stayed away from that shit till I was much older.

Parent's aren't always right in the ways they raise their children, look at social services that has to remove children from parent's custody who beat them, or sexualy molest them, or sell them on the street for prostitution, or leave them alone for days while they are off being neglegent about their offspring.

Shame on a lot of you.

Bighoss
2003-02-28, 10:56 PM
you can argue and get angry with your parents but it still doesn't mean you don't respect them.

Squeeky
2003-02-28, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Jaged
Oh, and doobz, is that sig from Splinter Cell?

yes

Arshune
2003-02-28, 11:29 PM
There's nothing wrong with hating your parents, in fact, the belief that it is wrong can be harmful. Just because someone has a child and pays to raise it doesn't mean they're automatically a good person.

Doing what you think is best isn't necessarily the best choice. The more repressive the parents are, the more likely the kid is to act out in a self-destructive way. The more forbidden something is, the more likely the kid is to do it. Our friend Jaged here is a perfect example of what I'm talking about, his mom said no so what'd he do? He went out and saw the movie.

Once a kid is 14-15, there's not a whole lot parents can do to stop them from doing whatever they want, the only thing they can really do is make the kid's life harder/more annoying. This amounts to a big lot of stress for both parties, a smart (read: manipulative) parent will guide rather than try to control.

Mtx
2003-02-28, 11:35 PM
This is why I refuse to have anymore children.

Bighoss
2003-02-28, 11:38 PM
I just refuse to have kids. A dog is good enough and takes less money. I would rather have the money

Tobias
2003-02-28, 11:39 PM
But there are allot of things that 14-15 year olds might want to do that they should not be doing and that a good parent should try to stop them from doing.

Arshune
2003-03-01, 12:09 AM
That's why I'm saying that a good parent will try to stop them, but not be firmer than need dictates. My parents didn't really give me a whole lot of flak through my teenage years (which I'm on the tail end of still); about the only guideline I really have is a loose curfew...they'll nag me if I'm not in by 11, but they never get bent out of shape about it. They didn't really talk to me about sex or drugs or anything, and I'm a perfect little angel (that's not sarcasm, I don't date, drink, or dope up).

My brother on the other hand, turned out to be a deadbeat lieabout. With him, they were very, very strict. He wasn't allowed to have girls over unless they were both there, he wasn't allowed out past ten, etc. He started selling other kids acid when he was 15.

That's what I'm basing my point on.

Jaged
2003-03-01, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Arshune
Our friend Jaged here is a perfect example of what I'm talking about, his mom said no so what'd he do? He went out and saw the movie.

My mom not wanting me to see the movie had no affect whatsoever on wether or not I saw it. I would of seen it if she would of let me, and I saw it when she diddn't let me. All this shows, is that I diddn't like the rule she made so I chose not to follow it.

mistled
2003-03-01, 10:01 AM
Actually, all it shows is that you are in rebellion.

Mtx
2003-03-01, 10:16 AM
Enough of this boring crap. Lets talk about sex. :D

Squeeky
2003-03-01, 10:29 AM
sex is good, could be an AGN event:p

Destroyeron
2003-03-01, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Tobias
1) Young kids should not see most dirty porn, it screws you up at that young of an age, you dont need to know that stuff.

2) You may be proud that your lazy, fat, and foolish (stupid actually, but I dont want to call you stupid), But have some respect for the people that gave you life.

3) Shower, you smell.

Replace ever 'you' with 'I' and you have my response.