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Jaged
2003-02-27, 02:50 AM
Sign this petition to help get rid of homework once and for all!

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/nohw/petition.html

Saint
2003-02-27, 03:14 AM
Ummmmm, I don't know how your school is, but my teachers rarely give homework. Only when their schedule is pressed for time do they give out homework. I do agree tho, school should take place in the classroom and only occasionaly in the home.

Ezcactus
2003-02-27, 08:57 AM
DOWN WITH HOMEWORK! FREE THE MASSES!!!

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-27, 10:01 AM
You do realize that, "down with homework" = Lets extend the school day by about 4-6 hours.

Dire_Wolf
2003-02-27, 10:12 AM
I rarely get homework at school that I have to take home. We generally get enough time to do it in class. Except for adv. algebra, we get homework daily. :(

MrVicchio
2003-02-27, 11:49 AM
Lazy F@#$@#$ING kids, do your damn homework and educate yourself, nothing is more important till you have finished collage then EDUCATION.

Hamma
2003-02-27, 12:28 PM
I never did homework. I spent time having fun.

Hell, I dont bring a computer home from work and repair it there everynight. Why should i bring my schoolwork home.

�io
2003-02-27, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by MrVicchio
nothing is more important till you have finished collage then EDUCATION.

:lol:

powdahound
2003-02-27, 12:35 PM
I get two to three hours of homework every night. Even on weekends. :p

Arshune
2003-02-27, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
You do realize that, "down with homework" = Lets extend the school day by about 4-6 hours.
Nah, there's a ton of extra classes that could be eliminated from school curriculums. I had to take a lot of electives that spent the whole year going nowhere (for example, my school requires students to take a public speaking class to graduate). The only classes most people need are native language, math, science, history, and a foreign language. I like shop class as much as the next guy, but if I could have doubled up on history and english to graduate earlier, I would have. Much more efficient use of time.

Not to mention that 90% of real jobs don't give homework. Doctors don't take pregnant women home to deliver their children. Maybe a lawyer might read a law book at home or something, but that's the only example I can really think of.

I hate homework so much, it does nothing but lower my grades. I ace the tests then lose credit for the homework so I end up with straight 3.5s...stupid lazyness.

Saint
2003-02-27, 03:47 PM
Hahaha Vic... :p

Tobias
2003-02-27, 04:45 PM
Only homework I did: english papers, programing, and math. All the rest was stupid. Most of the programming was stupid easy stuff to.

Bighoss
2003-02-27, 05:01 PM
I don't mind homework it doesn't take me too long but... I think homework should be baned in Spanish:D

Arshune
2003-02-27, 05:15 PM
OMFG, spanish is the only fun homework there is. My spanish class is having show and tell tomorrow (I'm not kidding). We have to talk about any object from our house for three minutes, in spanish. Taking a foreign language class is like third grade all over, except in a different language. :D

NCG JMan
2003-02-27, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by MrVicchio
nothing is more important till you have finished collage then EDUCATION.

LOL...I saw that too Dio. Well someone didn't go to college and learn to spell correctly. j/k http://www.dslextreme.com/users/jdh333/images/smileys/silly2.gif

Fire_Monkey
2003-02-27, 05:41 PM
:lol: Homework sucks, I have 3 hours a night.

BUGGER
2003-02-27, 05:56 PM
Even if skool was uped an hour or 2, I wouldn't care, I'd just draw an talk wit me friends. Then stay another hour and watch em skateboarder wanabe's try to olly over me head......everytime they hit me i get $2, if i get scratched or get rubben by the trucks, $5.:D I get me lunch money that way........also for makin bus-passes (Elementary skool gets out 1 later aftr skool so if i wana take their bus i need a "pass").


And haha, I take Pre Algebra!!:D


Down with homework! Iwana play Ghost Recon!!!!!!:D :mad:

Bighoss
2003-02-27, 06:59 PM
as a freshman I should be taking geometry but I had the most retarded algebra teacher last year and didn't do so well... lol no one did the highest grade was like an 80 something. So now I have to double up next year :ugh:

Doobz
2003-02-27, 08:04 PM
i finished up geometry in 8th grade.

taking algebra 2 teacher who is exceptionally intelligent in math, but he expects everybody else to be as intelligent as him with it, so not so great a class.

most students have about an average of 3 passing tests the entire year so far. we've had quite a few too

problem is, he slaps down some really hard and long stuff, then expects us all to have it done in 45 minutes

he seems to have illusions of adequicy

CockRoach
2003-02-27, 08:28 PM
hehe i think this is a lost cause, you'll never get rid of homework, just dont take courses with alot of homework

MrVicchio
2003-02-27, 08:30 PM
Soh I wehn 2 Puhblik skol an aint dun my english 4 collage yhet... bite me, I sayd bite me.

BurningSpear
2003-02-27, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Arshune
Not to mention that 90% of real jobs don't give homework. Doctors don't take pregnant women home to deliver their children. Maybe a lawyer might read a law book at home or something, but that's the only example I can really think of.

:confused:
Kidding, right? If doctors don't take work home, they still put in hellish hours. And they have a right not to do homework *ANYMORE* since they have spent about 10 YEARS in college doing some of the most grueling schoolwork in the world.

Lazy bastards like yourself, however . . .

Homework teaches responsibility, time management, and goal-setting. It is also a time to practice the skills you learned in class. The classroom is the time to learn the concepts. Home is the time to practice the concepts.

I am an Algebra teacher
:domotwak:

flame on

Arshune
2003-02-27, 09:25 PM
I don't know what kind of homework YOU'RE giving, but the homework at my school is basically garbage. It does nothing to teach; it's a massive waste of time. My test grades when I do my homework=3.5-4.0. My test grades when I don't=3.5-4.0.

Ok, the doctor was probably a bad example, but the fact still stands that MOST people don't take work home.

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-27, 11:00 PM
Homework is neccessary. When you get to college you will see that you are going to be loaded with homework.

English: If you don't write your papers and read your books at home, you class would have to be 3-4 times as long. In college you are going to be spending more time on your english outside of class than you will inside of class.

Math: repetition of math is good for memorizing formulas and getting good experience using them. When you reach higher level math courses like Calculous 3 or diff equasions, you will get little or no practice in class. A class's format will probably be, an approach to solving a problem or a formula wil be introduced or proven. You will be assigned problems. The next class the teacher will take questions about the assigned homework (it probably won't even be collected). The homework was your only oppurtunity to farmilliarize yourself with the new concept and use of new formulas.

Science: Same as math. Concepts and formulas will be gone over in class. It is up to you to do the homework and make sure you know how to use the formulas and understand the concepts.

Computer programming: In college it is very likely that you will do no programming in class. All of your programming assignments will have to be done outside of class. If you don't actually program, you are not learning how to program.

Many courses will require you to do reading outside of class and class time will be spent discussing the reading. Don't do the homework, then you are going to be completely lost in class.

Get used to doing homework, you are going to see a ton of it in College. Most of it won't be useless.

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-27, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by Arshune
Ok, the doctor was probably a bad example, but the fact still stands that MOST people don't take work home.

Do you spend 70 hours a week in the classroom? These days a 70 hour work week is not uncommon.

You may not get homework, but you are not spending less time on on work related material then you spend on class time + homework.

Bighoss
2003-02-27, 11:30 PM
I currently have a 90 average what does that translate into GPA?

Doobz
2003-02-27, 11:53 PM
well, mr. algebra teacher, i can tell you right now that homework has helped me diddily squat, that, in fact, it is the classroom practices and questions i am able to ask my teacher that set anything in my mind.

when i do homework, which is rarely, it's because *I* think i need the extra practice, not the teacher. i usually just end up copying my homework.

i pass all my tests with 90s, btw.
cept for goddamn algebra 2. guy is weird, seriously has something like an average of 85% failure rate for his tests, no joke

Bighoss
2003-02-28, 12:20 AM
my algebra teacher is kinda odd. its hard to learn when he teaches all of us but he can make everything make sense in 10-15 minutes max of extra help.

The only thing he can't help are just plain stupid people who are happy with a 70. I've noticed that stupid people are usally happy... lucky them:(

Doobz
2003-02-28, 12:43 AM
i think i'm making a 70 something in my A2 class, all because of the teacher

it's not that i don't get the stuff, in fact, i don't pay attention to him till he reviews the day before the test, where i look to see what it's about and how to do it:D , but because he makes the problems really long and complicated, so there is no WAY you are finishing in 45 minutes. in fact, i've never seen anybody actually finish one of his tests

Lexington_Steele
2003-02-28, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by Doobz
problem is, he slaps down some really hard and long stuff, then expects us all to have it done in 45 minutes

Maybe if you had done all the homework, the problems wouldn't seem so long and hard. ;)

CyricMoonblade
2003-02-28, 03:21 AM
Algebra's pretty easy, IF YOU KNOW how to do it. factor this problem:

X^2-144

If that took you more than 10 secs to figure out you need to do more homework :-P

Now try this one:


2x^3-40X^2+192X


...........................................

Bighoss
2003-02-28, 07:37 AM
thats just the basic algebra stuff. It gets more annoying like tell me whether these lines have infinite solutions, no solution, one solution of where they intersect

5x-(-3y)=13
y=3x+5

that's actually kinda easy:D

Arshune
2003-02-28, 03:28 PM
I remember when I came up with the ultimate plan to cut class and not miss anything...I set up a tape recorder and then put my head down and went to sleep. When I went to listen to it later, halfway through the tape I hear the teacher say "is he with us? Should we check his pulse or something?" and then one of my friends replied with "nah." She didn't even wake me up. :lol:

Arshune
2003-02-28, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
Do you spend 70 hours a week in the classroom? These days a 70 hour work week is not uncommon. Yeah, if you're a beast. Ten hours a day, every day? Maybe 10 hours for 5 days a week is common, but I don't know anyone that works 70 hours a week.

Edit: Sorry for not making that one post.

BurningSpear
2003-03-01, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Arshune
Yeah, if you're a beast. Ten hours a day, every day? Maybe 10 hours for 5 days a week is common, but I don't know anyone that works 70 hours a week.

Edit: Sorry for not making that one post.

Lol, Arshune, you are admittedly in high school, so, excuse me for being brash, but wtf do you have to compare to? You know your parents AND THATS IT! There are SO many jobs that practically REQUIRE beastly amounts of overtime. Ask Dave Georgeson how much his team puts in every day! A friend of mine is the Art Editor for a magazine. When it comes to weeks within the deadlines, they all bring in sleeping bags and work till they drop. A guy in my Tribes 2 clan puts in *amazing* hours. You say you don't know anyone that puts in long work weeks, well, my friend, you live in a very small circle of the population.

Originally posted by Arshune
I don't know what kind of homework YOU'RE giving, but the homework at my school is basically garbage. It does nothing to teach;

Again, homework's purpose is NOT to teach. Thats the classroom. Homework is for practice. But I'm done, unless something really stupid is said after this, because I most likely won't change your mind.

Arshune
2003-03-01, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by BurningSpear
Lol, Arshune, you are admittedly in high school, so, excuse me for being brash, but wtf do you have to compare to? You know your parents AND THATS IT!
Again, homework's purpose is NOT to teach. Thats the classroom. Homework is for practice. But I'm done, unless something really stupid is said after this, because I most likely won't change your mind. I know a lot of adults. I happen to have more than two adult family members, not to mention a few adult friends. Mother, father, brother, sister, grandparents and a few aunts and uncles. All told, that's like 10-15 people who don't work more than 40 hours a week.

My point wasn't really about homework's intended purpose, it was about how it hasn't helped me at all. For most students in middle school and high school, homework is just a big waste of time. Most of the concepts they encounter just aren't complex enough to justify extra practice.

Anyone who thinks most kids are lazy needs to look at different kids. Most people I know have part-time jobs in addition to their normal school responsibilities. I used to work 20 hours a week in addition to the 8 hours a day I went to school. So a good portion of us barely have time for a good night's sleep.

Sol
2003-03-01, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Arshune
My point wasn't really about homework's intended purpose, it was about how it hasn't helped me at all. For most students in middle school and high school, homework is just a big waste of time. Most of the concepts they encounter just aren't complex enough to justify extra practice.

In my experience, teachers let you off on homework if you behave well and do well on tests.

Arshune
2003-03-01, 12:42 PM
That's only if they're cool teachers. Some of them get insulted if you aren't struggling through their class.

Actually, I'm going to back up a little and say that I don't mind teachers giving homework as long as they don't grade it. I just don't like extra practice forced on me, especially if I don't need it.

Destroyeron
2003-03-01, 07:22 PM
I signed it. :D