Unusual / Unforeseen uses of vehicles and equipment

[Chanfan]

Having just read some threads on vehicles and turrets, it got me to thinking back to some inventive uses of things in Tribes.

In Tribes, folks would sometimes use things in the game for purposes they weren't designed for.

Cameras and sensors that could be mounted on walls were progressively installed at a 45 degree angle to create stairs to places heavy's couldn't get to (lighter armor types being able to use their jet packs to travel farther).

Another tactic was to create a web of sensors in the entrance to the flag rooms - not to sense anything, but to create a stumbling block on the floor that slowed intruders up, so turrets and defenders would have time to work on them, and would prevent quick run through flag snatches.

Yet another was to use jet bikes (or whatever they were called) as giant flying missiles, leaping off right before impact.

Fortunately, the advantages these tactics brought weren't too out of wack - but there were good, clever uses of things in ways that clearly weren't what they were intended for.

So now I'm wondering about the possibilities in PlanetSide for such adaptation.

Can a vehicle be used to block a building entrance, or allow folks to climb to areas they couldn't normally get to?

What about turrets - can these be clamped to walls, and if so, can you climb on them?

Will it be more effective to ram a MAX with your light aircraft or vehicle than to shoot him?

What else can you think of with the stuff that's been announced?

Just thinking...

[Nightmare]

I bet people would use deliverers or galaxies to block entrances to bases, and perhaps jeeps or buggies to block doors that go into the facility. Heh, that's some interesting info, as I've only played playd T2 once or twice.

[DaRB]

we've discussed this on my teams private forums to death, needless to say, "chance favors the prepared mind".

so, expect it, have your own tactics, and be prepared to either get smacked down, or to unleash hell upon the enemy, either way, it'll be fun!

[balab]

:D deliverer, the new version of castle gate. lancer, the new version of battering ram.

[Nightmare]

Originally posted by balab
:D deliverer, the new version of castle gate. lancer, the new version of battering ram.

:rofl: so true, for the Vanu anyways. The NC has the pheonix, and the TR has... something, and everyone has the rocklet or thumper. I will be using the lancer though. :D

[SandTrout]

With all the ordinace flying around during a major assault on a base, I immagine parked vehichles wont last long. Once this tactic has been used a few time, people will come prepared with AV weapons and grenades to take care of them quickly.

BTW: the Terran AV weapon is the Stryker.

[Unknown]

Yeah, but when a vehicle dies, doesn't it leave a burnt out shell behind that lasts a little while? Couldn't this be used to block doors?

...Actually, now that I think about it, rouge stated a while back about an effect he was working on, where when the vehicle blows up, chunks fly off that start to disappear in mid-air because "the nanites are already starting to deconstruct them". Following this logic, the nanites will be in the process of deconstructing the vehicle as well. Hmm...maybe vehicle shells will only last 1-2 mins.

[Frozen-Monkey]

i thought they had anti spam programs

[Hife246]

Personaly I find that finding these uses are all perfectly fine. If ur smart enough to think this stuff up go ahead. In war the most adaptable survive. If u can use a buggy or whatever to prevent or slow down reinforcements from getting into/out of a base then by all means u should be aloud. And this can add yet another part of strategy. I say.. if they can think it up and teh devs left it in the game (granted it can't be a bug ie. U roll a buggy and hide under it and take no dmg t'ill buggy is destroyed) go ahead and use it. In real life, if u were in a battle and was trying to defend a base or attack and your "team" was doing well but was getting really injured and if it kept up you would surely lose, but you could block a door with a buggy and stop/slow down the enemy for X amount of time to help heal your team and actualy give them a chance would u?

Anyway.. food for thought

[Furio]

Alls fair in love and war, frankley I think the game would lack something if these kinds of tactics weren't in the game. With that said of course there are a few things that aren't fair but i think you will be able to find those and find ways around them.

[DarkDragon00]

Terran Elite Airborne Regiment

Actually, i think that the devs want people to adapt but dont want stuff that couldn't happen in real life be allowed. I think thinking outside the box is what this game is about, if you play by every single one of the rules you wont have many chances of winning people who invent as they go and think of new uses for items and vehicles!

Dark - Im always here!

[Moloch]

yeh, in the new screenshots you can see stuff such as "Destroyed Lightning" and such, so they do leave hulks but I bet they disintegrate after a while.

[Destroyeron]

Originally posted by Chanfan
Will it be more effective to ram a MAX with your light aircraft or vehicle than to shoot him?

I intend to do that wether it hurts them or not, figure ram them, pin them then blow them to bits.

[Spy]

I agree with dark on the thought that the dev's want this game to be as realistic as possible. And i know as soon as it comes out there will be quite a bit of MAX bowling. Thats the first thing that comes to mind when you see a heave armor, and your in a vehicle, why get out when you can hit him. In BF'42 jeeps were constantly used as raming devices, but also took damage them selves, i hope this is the case with vehicles in PS. To be more realistic.

[Fire_Monkey]

You could possibly use vehicles as stepping stones to jump up into a tree, you might have a good sniping tactic. In Halo, I always parked a warthog near a tree and jumped in. The the tree protects you and it's hard to see you. The Vanu buggy will be good at running people down.

[NARF]

What happens when someone backs a galaxy into a base and blocks off the opening, unloads everyone, and it gets blown up and blocks the entrance, they do the same thing with the other entrances, they now only have to worry about people spawning and coming in from the air...

I think that dropping buggies out of galaxies onto groups of soldiers, and then the person in the buggy running over the leftovers will be one of them...

Then you've got your crash a reaver or galaxy into a max or something like that, of course, this is assuming it willd o damage to do that...

[Nightmare]

:rofl: dropping a buggy onto people then running over the rest is a great idea! And if you're vanu, you don't need to worry abou vehicles blocking the way, because you can just jump right over them when you're in a MAX.

[Hellsfire123]

No one has stated the obvious drive buggy, hope in gunners seat and let rip strat. Mobile turret :)

I was thinking also that either rolling or just getting behind a buggy would make pretty nice cover, plus if you can put someone in the gunners seat.

Can we open the galaxy doors and have people shoot out of them while moving?

How about baiting a reaver with your misquito and bailing, then firing at pheonix and piloting it into the reaver while you land safely on the ground?

Vanu maxes could stack using their jump jet ability to get even higher then normal. Then again, probally all units would be able to stack. Imagine two TR maxes planted with 3 or 4 marines on top of them all facing the same way down a corridor....

Ive mentioned the ANT bombing run in other threads. Fill an ANT, pop it into a galaxy, then drop it right into a heavily populated area :) And you guys think there are no bombers.

Whos up for using a minesweeper as a conc nade?

Will wing walking be possible? Cram twenty people into (onto) that galaxy!

Yea, the possiblities are endless. All this, and we havent played the game yet.

[Hife246]

I don't think the buggy in a Galaxy and the Wing walking will be possible. I know in bf1942 I've tried staying on boats and what not but not being "in" the boat and I just fall back and outta the boat. (Same with planes and teh lot atless u on plane nose or u right infront of teh tail) I guess cause ur not moving as fast (as a person) compared ot the plane so u just fall back cause ur too slow and off the plane. and for Buggy cause ur stationary u fall out as well.

As for the rest.... YOUR ARE A COMPLETE.......... GENIUS!!!!!!! ( me speeling u like)

[Hellsfire123]

Heh, i spend to much time thinking about this game.

I was just thinking, the vanu hover buggy could be used as a ramp. Run some of it over a rock and climb out. Instant ladder.


NC battering ram - Run a NC max with his shield special on strait at enemy vechs and infantry. If he doesnt shoot he can get auto run on, which means fast as a vech.

[OmnipotentKiwi]

Originally posted by Furio
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[Hellsfire123]

If we have stackable men, it might very well be possible to stack turrets. This one is kinda obvious though, devs probally thought of it. Along with that, maybe we could get turrets onto very small ledges, say...door jams? Stack to get an engineer up to the door jam and have him build there (this was possible in TFC not to long ago, ill have to check if it still is) that along with a motion sensor would make a really surprised cloaker....

[Sando138]

im guessing that Galaxies will have fairly thick skins... the bigger the troop carrier the better the armor, usually... so. we know that galaxies have 3 guns mounted like this (key: -, gun; =, body of craft; : side guns; nose >)

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whats to prevent you from flying a circle around your target area and using the side guns to clear an LZ?

also, i'm guessing that there will be more uses than one for some of the more unique weapons. why not use a supressor with an agile suit, and attack during cover of fog? you can't be seen or heard...

[Hellsfire123]

Originally posted by Sando138
whats to prevent you from flying a circle around your target area and using the side guns to clear an LZ?

Rocket luanchers come to mind :)

Seriously though, i think thats the whole reason the galaxies have guns. Also the escorts would be a large help. But imagine opening the doors above the LZ and having 8 marines drop grenades.....that would pretty much clear the area :)

[Sturm]

Will it be more effective to ram a MAX with your light aircraft or vehicle than to shoot him?

I believe it was stated that since MAX's are in many ways similar to vehicles, and that they will cause damage to your vehicle if you ram them or if they jump on you. How much damage I'm not sure...but I'm guessing it wouldn't be wise to ram a MAX with a Mosquito because of the small amount of armor and vulnerability on it.
You'd probably be better off using your machine gun...though even doing that against a MAX probably wouldn't be to wise. Those things can dish out major damage especially if they are suited up as anti-air.

Im sure there will be plenty of joyous ramming going on......

[MoPey]

Originally posted by Sando138

also, i'm guessing that there will be more uses than one for some of the more unique weapons. why not use a supressor with an agile suit, and attack during cover of fog? you can't be seen or heard...

if im not mistaken the supressor is a rifle type weapon which means that it cannot be used by stealth suit (stealth can only carry pistol and knife) but the amp (automatic pistol) may be a good choice, not sure how loud it fires though.

[Sando138]

Originally posted by Hellsfire123
Rocket luanchers come to mind :)

But imagine opening the doors above the LZ and having 8 marines drop grenades.....that would pretty much clear the area :)

Screw grenades, why not open the rear door and use the lightning's main gun on them?

EDIT: yes, i know that infiltration suits can't use the supressor. i said 'Agile suit under cover of Fog'. minor difference there.

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gotta love smileys... they can say what i cannot...

[Hellsfire123]

Why not use the lightnings main gun? simple, i dont think you can. In fact, im relativly sure that you wouldnt even be able to drop grenades without bailing out. But if you could.....8 grenades is quite a bit of shrapnel (yes there is "shrapnel") and this clears the immeadiate area for a quick drop, the lightning would be hard to aim and wouldnt clear the LZ fast enough. Im thinking 8 grenades and covering fire from the side guns and marines inside (again not likely, but possible) would be much more effective.

Or we could just combine the two, and also have the MAX with the nade launcher firing too.......wow thats alot of boom.

[Saint]

When my friends and I played capture the flag on blood gultch in Halo they always used to drop a scorpion right on thier flag :(

I think people will do it in Planetside, so be ready

[VanuSovereignty]

You mean like block the control panel? >/ Oh well, I'll see if I can get my deliverer and ram those vehicles blocking my way! Muaha! And then bail if it goes all GTA and starts to go on fire..Run around screaming and mourning for my Deliverer. :o

[Daedalus]

If the Galxy couldopen it's doors, then it would be like the Havok in T2...omg,imagine a galaxy flying around with 6 vanu maxes firing in all directions...

[Fire_Monkey]

The Galaxy carries only 2 MAXes and no. you cannot open the doors while in flight.

[Destroyeron]

There was alrerady a thread just like this one, galaxies cannot open doors during flight, you cannot wing walk or it will be very difficult, and even if you were gonna open the doors, 6 terran maxes would do the job much better.

[Moloch]

you also can't get vehicles inside a building

[DarkDragon00]

Terran Elite Airborne Regiment


I really do belive that they should allow the G-class dropship(galaxy) to open its doors during flight. All those things that were mentioned do happen in real life so it should be in a game that want a sorta reality tactics feel. Now DEVS this thread right here is not things that you should patch (well maybe a couple of 'em) to get rid of the chance, because its all real strategy. Things that could happen, should be allowed to happen.

-Dark-

[AcidCat]

Originally posted by DarkDragon00
Terran Elite Airborne Regiment


I really do belive that they should allow the G-class dropship(galaxy) to open its doors during flight. All those things that were mentioned do happen in real life so it should be in a game that want a sorta reality tactics feel.

I think everyone understands that game balance is king, and something that might seem realistic and cool could easily offset that delicate balance that the developers are no doubt striving for.

[Daedalus]

Well,i didn't really check my post back there...
If the galaxy could open it's doors,then they would have to weaken the galaxy or something to balance it.
IF that would happen,then you could blow up a galaxy with a rock.
:eek:

[Nightmare]

The galaxy already has enough defense with its 3 turrets. There's no need to have the back open.

[Sando138]

ok, imagine you are riding in a galaxy when all of a sudden you come under attack by four rocket toting troops. you have three guns, and any more shots than the four that already hit you will be fatal to the DS and all it's occupants. wouldn't you want to put your l33t sniper skillz to the test and help save the dropship from an untimely demise? however, it would change the galaxy transport's role too much to make it able to open the doors mid-flight. in stead of being a troop transport, it becomes a flying artillery barrage with the added ability to deploy a light vehicle if it needs backup.

[Moloch]

Maybe an additional pod on the bottom for 1 guy to snipe or shoot out of with any weapon?

[Arshune]

Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
The Galaxy carries only 2 MAXes and no. you cannot open the doors while in flight. I'm pretty sure that SJ said something about precision air drops and paratrooper tactics being viable in the shoutcast a while back.

[Spy]

I think a mid-air drop would add some interesting tactics to the game, but i also think it would be better if you had to land, so the drop ship couldn't just fly by and drop all these people off with no danger to it self really. I think the doors wont be able to open while in flight

[SandTrout]

You can't open the back and fire out, but you can bail out and fire in mid-air.