View Full Version : Comeing back and have noticed something
The Heavy
2011-05-20, 09:17 AM
Is it me or are the NC now woefully underpowered?
I mean going toe to toe with some one at point blank is now the most ridiculous thing ever.
While using the jack hammer were normally it would have taken 2 to 3 shots to kill some one it now takes 4 or 5 which is ridiculous especially when you have the slowest firing heavy assault weapon in the game...
At the moment your better off just using the sweeper and the medium assault rifle and just spending the 4 cert points else were,
looks like I'll just have to use max'es and vehicles from now on instead of trying to fulfill my duties of a foot soldier because at the moment I just don't see the point in trying to compete with the other factions HA.
Now if this got some of you mad I understand but that was not my intent and am sorry if it has gotten you rilled.
BorisBlade
2011-05-20, 09:36 AM
Nah, actually the jackhammer is still 2-3 shots up close. I play every faction, great learning experience as far as balance. When ya play one side it often feels like you are underpowered. Play the other factions and they say the same crap.
Things like lag between what you see and what the server sees, and the client side hit detection system can give you false impressions about how fights between infantry are goin down.
So dont worry, the JH is still the best weap up close, but overall the HA weapons are pretty balanced. Misconceptions guide alot of misinformed people. Trust me, when i play vs I hear how awful the lasher is and how the pulsar is better indoors, thats beyond stupid. Or when im on tr all i hear is how the cycler is half as good as other MA, its slightly weaker but not alot. And playing the opposite factions i hear how those same weapons are overpowered. It makes no sense. Things like damage degredation over range, bloom, absorption from armor, clip size, fire rates, etc etc are all different for each weapon and keep em balanced fairly well. Its not perfect and some may need a little tweakin but in general its pretty dam good.
And slowest firing HA weapon? That means nothing. It shoots a burst of 8 or 10 pellets i think it was (been years since i tested the weapons) so it technically shoots faster. Plus if a weapon does 10x more damage per shot then who cares if it shoots 5x slower, still does double the damage. Its more of a DPS thing, but then again you still must also consider the bloom, absorbtion per shot, degredation, clip size, etc.
Raymac
2011-05-20, 01:44 PM
I actually just picked up the JH again after years, literally years of not using HA at all. I fell in love with the Gauss and it used to hold its own in close combat. Not so much now. So I finally bit the bullet and spent the 4 cert points on HA. Yeah, I'm really glad I did. The JH really tears shit up at point blank range. The only time I don't win in point blank is if the other person out strafes me. Just shove your JH up their ass and pull the trigger until it goes 'click' like The Jesus says.
Sirisian
2011-05-20, 03:02 PM
heh unbalanced weapons? Unlikely. So anyway yesterday I was playing and they had a black ops thing and I put 10 HSR sniper bullets into an enemy and was like "omfg this weapon is unbalanced or he's hacking". Turned out it was just a black ops person that didn't care he was being shot at. :lol:
Traak
2011-05-20, 03:09 PM
Just shove your JH up their ass and pull the trigger until it goes 'click' like The Jesus says.
One of the funniest quotes, especially because it is so true, that I have ever seen!:rofl:
Effective
2011-05-21, 05:18 AM
The Jackhammer is ridiculous in terms of power, the Lasher could use some minor buffs to COF expansion, and the cycler shoots paper-mache instead of bullets.
opticalshadow
2011-05-21, 11:35 AM
JH seems fine, ive just always hated how its only usful at close range, where as both the lasher and MCG can go med to long range. even if they are not as great, they can still do it, jh is much more nich in that way and seems a bit lop sided if your not always in hall ways (or even if you are, when the fight isnt at a corner)
Baneblade
2011-05-21, 03:31 PM
I've always been in a love/hate relationship with the JH. On one hand, I can't stand being yet another 'SurgyJackNoob', but on the other... being able to click and hold while mowing down half a squad has its perks.
I'd prefer PS without any 'run n gun' HA tbh.
NoXousX
2011-05-22, 03:03 AM
Is it me or are the NC now woefully underpowered?
I mean going toe to toe with some one at point blank is now the most ridiculous thing ever.
While using the jack hammer were normally it would have taken 2 to 3 shots to kill some one it now takes 4 or 5 which is ridiculous especially when you have the slowest firing heavy assault weapon in the game...
At the moment your better off just using the sweeper and the medium assault rifle and just spending the 4 cert points else were,
looks like I'll just have to use max'es and vehicles from now on instead of trying to fulfill my duties of a foot soldier because at the moment I just don't see the point in trying to compete with the other factions HA.
Now if this got some of you mad I understand but that was not my intent and am sorry if it has gotten you rilled.
Give me a JH and shit starts dying. NC if anything are overpowered.
Arkaiden
2011-05-23, 12:20 AM
JH seems fine, ive just always hated how its only usful at close range, where as both the lasher and MCG can go med to long range. even if they are not as great, they can still do it, jh is much more nich in that way and seems a bit lop sided if your not always in hall ways (or even if you are, when the fight isnt at a corner)
Sure, lasher bolts can go medium to long range... BUT THEY WON'T HIT WHAT YER AIMING AT.
Plus, miniguns and jackhammers rape BFRs, lashers don't.
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