Mini Games

[LordReaver]

Would be nice to get some mini games to help with downtime.

One thing that would be widely used, is a "duel mode". The mode would allow you to fight a friendly and you wouldn't actually have either person die from it. It would just be a mock fight. I hope I don't need to explain why this would be wanted.

[Firefly]

You can duel now. If one of you dies, who cares? Bust out your med-gun and rez them.

[Vancha]

I didn't realize everyone got adv med by default these days...

[Firefly]

I didn't realize everyone got adv med by default these days...
HUR HUR HUR DERP DE DERP... You're being pedantic. Cert the fucking skill, damn! This isn't fucking rocket science. If you can't figure that shit out for yourself, go play Farmville for fuck's sake.

[LordReaver]

That's a terrible idea, people shouldn't have to put down cert points, just so they can entertain themselves during down time.

This isn't about PlanetSide Now, this is about PlanetSide Next. Cert points will probably be limited again.

[Vancha]

Not to mention a lengthier cert timer perhaps.

But Firefly is of course correct. Why implement a useful game function when there's a more annoying, cumbersome way to do it? After all, who doesn't want to go recerting just so they can duel a friend? There's not much use for certification terminals otherwise, right?

[Raymac]

There's a great mini game I play when waiting for a hack to go through. All you need is some pictures of Jennifer Love Hewitt and a towel.

[Firefly]

Why implement a useful game function when there's a more annoying, cumbersome way to do it? After all, who doesn't want to go recerting just so they can duel a friend? There's not much use for certification terminals otherwise, right?
Because Planetside doesn't have any coders. It has an intern employee who they trained on how to turn events on and off. So you work around the system. Now, for Planetside 2, naturally they should consider some means of easily doing a duel.

[Senyu]

Don't really think there should be mini games, but if there are and there is still a Sanctuary then add it there as you wait for things.

[Vancha]

Because Planetside doesn't have any coders. It has an intern employee who they trained on how to turn events on and off. So you work around the system. Now, for Planetside 2, naturally they should consider some means of easily doing a duel.

Damn. Now I wish this thread had been in the Planetside NEXT forum.

[Firefly]

Damn. Now I wish this thread had been in the Planetside NEXT forum.
It *IS* in the NEXT forum...

[Lonehunter]

Or if there wasn't down time, there wouldn't be a need for mini games in the MMOFPS

[Firefly]

The only downtime I experience is waiting for a hack. Or in the rare event of a Sanc lock back in the day, at which point we'd just have ANT demolition derbies or deep-sea Galaxy fishing cruises.

[Vancha]

It *IS* in the NEXT forum...
You don't say?! :rofl:

[LordReaver]

Don't really think there should be mini games, but if there are and there is still a Sanctuary then add it there as you wait for things.

Why would you want mini games to be only in the sanctuary? :confused: That doesn't make any sense. It would be stupid to add mini games and then restrict them to an area where you spend a tiny fraction of your time.
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Downtime isn't always during hacks, maybe the flight slowed down, maybe you are waiting on somebody, maybe you are guarding some little backwater area.

[Senyu]

Why would you want mini games to be only in the sanctuary? :confused: That doesn't make any sense. It would be stupid to add mini games and then restrict them to an area where you spend a tiny fraction of your time.
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Downtime isn't always during hacks, maybe the flight slowed down, maybe you are waiting on somebody, maybe you are guarding some little backwater area.

Because I dont think minigames should really be in the game. Ya downtimes suck but they happen and I dont want to have the devs try to make every single second on the game cater the player so their not "bored" during downtimes. Planetside has the most epic moments and that is traded off for some boring sit around do nothings. Hopefully with more players it this will be less like for hacks because people will be trying to take it back.

[Vancha]

Haven't we already discussed ways to cut down on the boring? Especially with the 15-minute base hacks?

I don't see any need to restrict a duel system to sanctuaries (which supposedly aren't going to be in Planetside2), but hopefully they'll improve upon the boring parts of gameplay enough that the need for a duel system will be minimal/non-existent.

[Naeadil]

If you are one of the newbies who guard a CC for 15 minutes that will be uncontested 99% of the time, than you deserve to suffer downtime.

[Punker]

Great idea, expect to see us resecuring a base at 3mins while the empire "holding" the hack are all killing themselves in duels.

[Vancha]

If you are one of the newbies who guard a CC for 15 minutes that will be uncontested 99% of the time, than you deserve to suffer downtime.
Thank you for highlighting why 15 minute uncontested hacks shouldn't exist.

Great idea, expect to see us resecuring a base at 3mins while the empire "holding" the hack are all killing themselves in duels.
Did you even read the thread? The whole point of Reaver's idea is so people avoid killing each other while dueling during downtime, which is what happens now.

[Firefly]

Thank you for highlighting why 15 minute uncontested hacks shouldn't exist.
You can't force people to battle and you can't force the flow of battle. They do exist. They will always exist as long as there's a 15min timer. It happens. Deal with it. Why does this bother you if someone else WHO IS NOT YOU wants to guard a CC for 15min?

Did you even read the thread? The whole point of Reaver's idea is so people avoid killing each other while dueling during downtime, which is what happens now.
And? It's their game. If they want to kill each other, let them. It's not hurting you.

[Vancha]

You can't force people to battle and you can't force the flow of battle. They do exist. They will always exist as long as there's a 15min timer. It happens. Deal with it. Why does this bother you if someone else WHO IS NOT YOU wants to guard a CC for 15min?
No. They don't exist and it doesn't happen (yet). Once again, this is not the Planetside forum. I doubt you'll find anyone who wants to sit at an uncontested CC for 15 minutes, hence the reason there's more than one thread in this forum asking how 15-minute uncontested hacks can be "fixed" in Planetside2.

And? It's their game. If they want to kill each other, let them. It's not hurting you.
Did you even read the post I was replying to? I was in no way saying people shouldn't be able to kill each other if they want to, which you'd know if you'd made any attempt to follow the conversation.

[SgtMAD]

you ppl are going to get wiped out in PS2,all this crying about guarding hacks is comical

[Logit]

Just because 15 minutes hacks are uncontested now, doesn't mean it was this way when the game came out. In fact it was quite the opposite, stop comparing the state of the game now to when the game was actually very good.

The 15 minute timer is fine.

[Firefly]

No. They don't exist and it doesn't happen (yet).
I'm talking about uncontested 15min hacks. Not whatever the hell you thought I was talking about. 15min uncontested hacks do exist. I've sat through them - why? Because people like me will find an uncontested 15min hack with nobody guarding it, and will go steal it back. Because there are people like me in the game, who do that sort of thing, I am fully aware that it does happen - so I will gladly park for 15min, make sure that it doesn't happen to us, and whilst I'm waiting for the hack I'm doing something else with my time - like replying to troll threads on PSU, feeding my son, putting finishing touches on my Space Marine costume, having sex with someone's mom, or enjoying a rum and coke.

Just because 15 minutes hacks are uncontested now, doesn't mean it was this way when the game came out. In fact it was quite the opposite, stop comparing the state of the game now to when the game was actually very good.

The 15 minute timer is fine.
This.

[LordReaver]

If you are one of the newbies who guard a CC for 15 minutes that will be uncontested 99% of the time, than you deserve to suffer downtime.
You are an idiot
Great idea, expect to see us resecuring a base at 3mins while the empire "holding" the hack are all killing themselves in duels.
That's the point, the way it is now, people just hack and leave. Nobody wants to sit around because its boring.
you ppl are going to get wiped out in PS2,all this crying about guarding hacks is comical
This one doesn't even make sense. Why would we get wiped out? How is that relevant to this discussion? Why would your logic only apply to PS2 and not PS? Who is crying? I only see a discussion here..
Just because 15 minutes hacks are uncontested now, doesn't mean it was this way when the game came out. In fact it was quite the opposite, stop comparing the state of the game now to when the game was actually very good.

The 15 minute timer is fine.
Even with poplocks there will be uncontested bases. However, you are completely ignoring the fact that there are backwater fights. I'm sure you are more than familiar with the term "ghost hacking". Well, sometimes those people who ghost hack, come back to undo a resecure. I started playing the game in August 2003, I know damn well what the game used to be like. In fact, if you played back then, then you should remember that there would be multiple fights like current day fights in combination with 1 or 2 poplocks.
I'm talking about uncontested 15min hacks. Not whatever the hell you thought I was talking about. 15min uncontested hacks do exist. I've sat through them - why? Because people like me will find an uncontested 15min hack with nobody guarding it, and will go steal it back. Because there are people like me in the game, who do that sort of thing, I am fully aware that it does happen - so I will gladly park for 15min, make sure that it doesn't happen to us, and whilst I'm waiting for the hack I'm doing something else with my time - like replying to troll threads on PSU, feeding my son, putting finishing touches on my Space Marine costume, having sex with someone's mom, or enjoying a rum and coke.


This.
This is exactly the reason for a minigame. The dueling system kills two birds with one stone. It gives people something to do during downtime, while simultaneously improving the dueling system.

[Vancha]

I'm talking about uncontested 15min hacks. Not whatever the hell you thought I was talking about. 15min uncontested hacks do exist. I've sat through them - why? Because people like me will find an uncontested 15min hack with nobody guarding it, and will go steal it back.

Well then, I take back what I said. I wasn't aware Planetside2 had people playing it yet, considering that is the game under discussion (what with this thread being in the Planetside2 forum and all).

Just because 15 minutes hacks are uncontested now, doesn't mean it was this way when the game came out. In fact it was quite the opposite, stop comparing the state of the game now to when the game was actually very good.
Of course there weren't as many, but they certainly existed. I remember sitting at them on VS when I first started the game.

you ppl are going to get wiped out in PS2,all this crying about guarding hacks is comical
Constructive as always, Sergeant. I'm looking forward to seeing you invent "shooting" in PS2.

[Senyu]

There will always be some sort of down time, and honestly dueling as small as it would be wouldn't solve it. This isn't WoW.





But if some people really want it don't see why it cant be added, some ppl like things other don't like

[Raymac]

You guys really wanna get this worked up over a mini-games debate? I know the deeper issue is dealing with downtime, but still. At this point, for all we know every base will be an llu.

[LordReaver]

There will always be some sort of down time, and honestly dueling as small as it would be wouldn't solve it. This isn't WoW.

But if some people really want it don't see why it cant be added, some ppl like things other don't like
Don't understand what WoW has to do with this. People duel in PlanetSide, happens all the time. Facilitating it, and adding to it makes the game more fun.
You guys really wanna get this worked up over a mini-games debate? I know the deeper issue is dealing with downtime, but still. At this point, for all we know every base will be an llu.
It's better to bring things up before it becomes an issue, wouldn't you agree? Isn't the whole point of this section of the forum to discuss what the next game should be like and how to solve issues?

[Raymac]

It's better to bring things up before it becomes an issue, wouldn't you agree? Isn't the whole point of this section of the forum to discuss what the next game should be like and how to solve issues?

I'm all for being pro-active, however I think there is a point of diminishing returns. To me, this debate sounds like a heated arguement over the kind of curtains we want to use at the Mars Space Station when we still don't know what kind of rocket is going to get us there.

Plus we're just fans. We really have no say or control over the game development. Sure they'll listen to feeback to a point, but they are making the game, not us. "Excellent customer service" was never a selling point of the original PS.

[LordReaver]

I'd say its more like what do people do for entertainment while on the 6 month journey to Mars. While the opponents are saying, "Fuck the entertainment" while they aren't even going on the trip.

The alternative is discussing things that have been discussed to death.

[Raymac]

I'd say its more like what do people do for entertainment while on the 6 month journey to Mars. While the opponents are saying, "Fuck the entertainment" while they aren't even going on the trip.

The alternative is discussing things that have been discussed to death.

Good point. I see what you are saying. Plus, I like your metaphor better than mine.

[Senyu]

Why the fuck are we arguing over the curtains? I'm more concerned with how the drywall and how well the painters did.

[Firefly]

Why the fuck are we arguing over the curtains? I'm more concerned with how the drywall and how well the painters did.
YOU FUCKING BITCH. I SAID I WANTED THE BLUE CURTAINS. THIS IS SHIT. THIS STINKS, THIS IS TOTAL BS.

[Senyu]

YOU FUCKING BITCH. I SAID I WANTED THE BLUE CURTAINS. THIS IS SHIT. THIS STINKS, THIS IS TOTAL BS.

WELL MAYBE I DIDNT WANT BLUE!! ITS ALWAYS WHAT YOU WANT!

[Firefly]

WELL MAYBE I DIDNT WANT BLUE!! ITS ALWAYS WHAT YOU WANT!
I BRING HOME THE BACON. YOU COOK THE BACON.

[BorisBlade]

Why the fuck are we arguing over the curtains? I'm more concerned with how the drywall and how well the painters did.

Workin in construction and remodeling. Everythign could be perfect, but if the curtains arent right, the anal customers (which most are) will spazz out like the whole job is one giant cluster fuck.

[Senyu]

I BRING HOME THE BACON. YOU COOK THE BACON.

Your about to get some burnt bacon

[Firefly]

Your about to get some burnt bacon
That's okay, I'll piss in your vagina.

[Senyu]

Prepare to have ur dick bite

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[Firefly]

Prepare to have ur dick bite

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-06-20/world/south.africa.female.condom_1_female-condoms-ehlers-south-africa?_s=PM:WORLD
I mean... I'm into S&M and whatnot, but that's a little rough.

Hope you can wear one of those in your ass. :brow: