End subscription fee. Since we got screwed.

[Vaner]

We have all been Devastated by the news, or, as it seems the lack of, from E3. Now that we know that Sony has been stringing us along these last many, many months; It is time for them to Open up the original, and most likely only version of the game, for free. End subsription fees.
The purpose of subscriptions is for upkeep and develop of the game and additional upgrades. I have a friend in the video game industry. He informed me that a game like Planetside does not take much to upkeep, they probablly only have a few guys monitoring it.
Yet they are still demanding a huge monthly fee. They are basically robbing the players that remain. you know what. They really dont give a shit, how we feel. Lets face it, to them its a dying game. The just want to squeeze as much profit out of it as possible.
If PSU was set for future release, like withing next year and half. It would make sense for them to open the game up for free. Get a bunch of new people interested in this style of game. No other game is like it. Alas, this most likely wont happen. The end

[Logit]

Another one of these threads?

[BlazingSun]

I'd say "It's your own fault if you still pay for a game like that". The thing that's worth pointing out though is, that they once again lured players into subscribing to the game with a promise, which they didn't keep. I'm talking about the beta slots for those subscibed to the game. Sure they didn't mention when the beta would start, but right now it seems as if you'd have to wait at least a year. So how long are those guys supposed to stay subscribed?

Then again, you can really only blame yourself if you fell for something like that again. I'm just glad I didn't pay a cent to them in 4 years.

[Redshift]

tbh anyone who subbed just for the beta slot is an idiot, i sub every now and then when i fancy mucking around on it for a night or two, and ofc while it's free for 45 days ^^

[Furret]

It would be nice if they made the game free again, I'm definitely not gonna sub since planetside:next sounds done as far as the near future is concerned.

[Raymac]

Yeah, I didn't subscribe just to get into beta. Thats a tricky gamble, which continues to lose, so I really don't have that much sympathy. I prefer the craps table.

However, I did resub because of the great battles created by the large numbers of players that came back for the beta. So I'm vicariously connected to the Great Planetside 2 Beta Gamble. Yeah, it's really fucked up that they've made it sound like beta was imminent, so hopefully they make up for that by giving us some sort of time window for beta.

I'm just starting to get really concerned that the real cause for the continued delay in any information getting released is because the game is crap. It was crap, so they decided to use a new engine, and now they are having problems with the new engine so it is still crappy. Lets face it, the original Planetside is a little clunky compared to the smoothness of many other shooters, which we accept because of the huge scale we are getting. If PS2 is testing even worse than the original, then that would be one explaination for zero information being released since that TR soldier render.

I know I'm sounding like a "sky is falling" spaz, but due to the overwhelming silence when we were promised, and I quote, "a lot more details over the coming weeks and months" way back in mid-April, I think we need to seriously consider this possibility. Personally, I'm going on that assumption moving forward until I hear something from SOE that changes that.

[Aractain]

Yeah, its a worst case but without info that should be here by thier own indications then we can't just assume everything is fine...

[basti]

We have all been Devastated by the news, or, as it seems the lack of, from E3. Now that we know that Sony has been stringing us along these last many, many months; It is time for them to Open up the original, and most likely only version of the game, for free. End subsription fees.
The purpose of subscriptions is for upkeep and develop of the game and additional upgrades. I have a friend in the video game industry. He informed me that a game like Planetside does not take much to upkeep, they probablly only have a few guys monitoring it.
Yet they are still demanding a huge monthly fee. They are basically robbing the players that remain. you know what. They really dont give a shit, how we feel. Lets face it, to them its a dying game. The just want to squeeze as much profit out of it as possible.
If PSU was set for future release, like withing next year and half. It would make sense for them to open the game up for free. Get a bunch of new people interested in this style of game. No other game is like it. Alas, this most likely wont happen. The end


I wish i could get all you idiots into a room full of acid. Slow working acid.

[LordReaver]

I thought it seemed to early for beta when I resubbed. Although, I had felt the urge anyways, and the possibility of a beta invite made the choice easy. I bet you don't even need an active sub when the time comes. You will probably just need to have had an active sub in the past. Like with the outage, how they gave all past subbers free time on all games they had subbed to in the past, even if they didn't have an active sub.

[Canaris]

I wish i could get all you idiots into a room full of acid. Slow working acid.

I can help round them up :D


To the OP, subscription fee is the only thing that keeps the vast majority of cheaters away, look at the 45 day free for all accounts, the population boomed true but so did all the cheaters. F2P = Free 2 Cheat :mad:

[Vaner]

Basti
I wish i could get all you idiots into a room full of acid. Slow working acid.


Lol, this guy is a tool. He is soo distraught, living in his dream world. you need to stop getting fucked by your dad.


Okay, aside from the tool above. I would still like to hold out hope, that sometime in the future Soe or some other company would release a new Planetside. I dont give a rat fuck what they call it =P

To the post that making game free would encourage cheaters to join the ranks. I would be open to just reducing the fee to, maybe half price.

[Rbstr]

How would they make money on it if the severs were provided for free at this point?

I mean, how many MMO's are free to play when they aren't micro-transaction type things or similar? Obviously excluding renegade servers of some older games.

Besides that, I really hope no one is "devastated",like you say, about the state of the game.
It's an Internet game. You just sound stupid being so concerned about it.

[Vaner]

How would they make money on it if the severs were provided for free at this point?

I mean, how many MMO's are free to play when they aren't micro-transaction type things or similar? Obviously excluding renegade servers of some older games.

You made some good points. But remember, this is an old game. As far as the video game world, it is very old. I know EQ, WOW, but those games keep getting updates, regularly. Basically new content. Not PS. My reason for mentioning free, was to garner interest in the future release of PSN. TO draw in new people who havent experienced the original. SOE has alot of money. THey have many other money making video game ventures. PS is a dying game, its subs are very low. So hence why I offered this as an option. At minimun, reduce the cost. What it has is, something no other shooter has to offer, Massive gameplay.

[Duffman]

Free while requiring credit card should keep the cheaters away.

[BlazingSun]

I wish i could get all you idiots into a room full of acid. Slow working acid.

Was sollen solche Aussagen? Kannst du mir das mal erklären?

[Rbstr]

My reason for mentioning free, was to garner interest in the future release of PSN. TO draw in new people who havent experienced the original. SOE has alot of money. THey have many other money making video game ventures. PS is a dying game, its subs are very low. So hence why I offered this as an option. At minimum, reduce the cost. What it has is, something no other shooter has to offer, Massive gameplay.


Why would you want to use a shitty old game to drum up support for a new one?
Seriously, anyone that hadn't played PS before and has played modern games is just going to think "Gosh, this sucks. Why would I want to buy the new one?"
The game has problems running on new computers!

It is a dying game, why would SOE want to throw money away keeping up severs when they can charge the diehards money?

[opticalshadow]

Why would you want to use a shitty old game to drum up support for a new one?
Seriously, anyone that hadn't played PS before and has played modern games is just going to think "Gosh, this sucks. Why would I want to buy the new one?"
The game has problems running on new computers!

It is a dying game, why would SOE want to throw money away keeping up severs when they can charge the diehards money?

that, and the current game has been altered so much, and tailored so specifically for a poor playerbase (population wise) that i cant imagine its teh game you want to show off to have a sequal.

any vet can tell you this isnt real ps were playing, its just a donut were using until we can get a real tire.

[wolfkrone]

you know what. They really dont give a shit, how we feel. Lets face it, to them its a dying game. The just want to squeeze as much profit out of it as possible.
If PSU was set for future release, like withing next year and half. It would make sense for them to open the game up for free. Get a bunch of new people interested in this style of game. No other game is like it. Alas, this most likely wont happen. The end

Is that room of slow acting acid ready yet?

Actually I think we call that a pain field.

[Firefly]

Free while requiring credit card should keep the cheaters away.
Bogus stolen numbers, credit card number generator, gamecard pass keygen, etc. It'll keep away casual cheaters, maybe.

Requiring a valid email address (not some [email protected]), confirming registration like certain forum sign-ups - ie requiring you to go into your email and activate a link, a subscription fee, a valid credit-card number and not a game pass...

[morf]

Hi,

If you don't think it's worth paying for, don't pay for it.

Seems pretty simple to me.

[Firefly]

Hi,

If you don't think it's worth paying for, don't pay for it.

Seems pretty simple to me.
Man of the Year Award 2011 goes to this cat.

[BorisBlade]

Why would you want to use a shitty old game to drum up support for a new one?
Seriously, anyone that hadn't played PS before and has played modern games is just going to think "Gosh, this sucks. Why would I want to buy the new one?"
The game has problems running on new computers!

It is a dying game, why would SOE want to throw money away keeping up severs when they can charge the diehards money?

The game doesnt suck, the graphics suck. There's a reason i play this 1000x more than crysis 2, and why i dont ever play CoD and rarely play BF. All, esp c2 have much better graphics but not better gameplay.

So get it right, not a shitty old game and not worse than modern stuff. Just looks bad, still plays better than all the others.

[LordReaver]

PS will never go free, unless SOE plans on dropping the game in a few months. What they should do, is when PS2 gets near, drop the price to the lowest they can, without losing money on it. This makes the game cheaper, but doesn't put a negative flow on SOE's pocket. It would also keep the game more attractive looking than making it free. Who wants to play a game that used to cost $15 a month, but is now free? It usually means something is wrong with it.

[Vaner]

OKAY Mother Fuckers. I was'nt off the mark. SOny listened to me. WHo has cred now. FUCKING RIGHT BITCHES...




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[wolfkrone]

OKAY Mother Fuckers. I was'nt off the mark. SOny listened to me. WHo has cred now. FUCKING RIGHT BITCHES...







You realise they didn't end subscription fees for PlanetSide right?

p.s you still have -1 cred

[Vaner]

and... from there, let me add this. Sony had no intention of mentioning shit at FanFair about PSN, i know how those bitches work. If by chance they throw some worthless shit out, It will be just that, worthless. The only reason being, soo many have raised shit, about how they fucked us over with their Play-For-Beta lie, that they wish to reedeem themselves in the future when it is eventually released.

[wolfkrone]

How is this piece of shit not banned yet.

[LordReaver]

OKAY Mother Fuckers. I was'nt off the mark. SOny listened to me. WHo has cred now. FUCKING RIGHT BITCHES...






They are only talking about reducing the all access pass. PlanetSide will still cost the same individually. What most of us probably use.

You are fooling yourself if you think you had any influence on the change.

[Vancha]

and... from there, let me add this. Sony had no intention of mentioning shit at FanFair about PSN, i know how those bitches work. If by chance they throw some worthless shit out, It will be just that, worthless. The only reason being, soo many have raised shit, about how they fucked us over with their Play-For-Beta lie, that they wish to reedeem themselves in the future when it is eventually released.

"Soo many"? You realize the piddling amount of people who've whined about broken promises that were never made mean jack in relation to the numbers they'll be pulling from any new game, let alone a decent one?

Oh, and I'm fairly sure Smed only said subscribers would get into beta, not when beta was going to be.

[Hamma]

How is this piece of shit not banned yet.

Vaner is going to have a few days to think over his posting.

He obviously wasn't paying much attention they mentioned the reduced cost at E3.

[Firefly]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.