Does stuff like this take away from the game / degrade it in any way?

[SXii]

What does everyone think?

[duomaxwl]

That's pretty creepy. I was listening to that as I loaded up the image.

[Hamma]

It certainly takes away from the game. The CR system was broken from the start because it allowed any 12 year old who got a squad to get CR5. Only in the very early days was it actually somewhat useful when there were only a few. Now there are probably fewer non CR5's than there are CR5s.

Also, moving this thread :)

[Vancha]

Planetside is one of the few games to give individual players so much responsibility in the form of global chat, and I think fools like that do hurt it's credibility. Any developers thinking of implementing such a thing can point to Planetside and say "See? That is what people do when trusted with such a responsibility".

That isn't to say it's not fun to see some humour over global occasionally, but someone with the kind of mentality this "Magres" has clearly shouldn't be given such powers.

[DviddLeff]

There needs to be a command system where only the commanders that are decent and therefore have the respect of troops they are actually leading can contact large numbers of players at once.

How to do it?
1. Only allow commanders to use any command tools when they are leading squads/platoons/companies.
2. Make CR require both earning AND certification points like a support tree.
3. Make CR degrade over time.

More details of my other ideas regarding command on my upgrade website.

[Firefly]

I use the Ignore feature liberally. And by liberal I don't mean like some goddamn Californian granola-eating hippie from Berkeley.

[Raymac]

Some dumbass kid typing out song lyrics to about 1/3 of the people online...yeah thats definitely bad. The ignore feature definitely helps you, but it doesn't do much to punish the person abusing global chat. A kid like this isn't going to care about directing the zerg. They just want to pretend they are funny.

Now, with more CSR support, this sort of thing would be almost non-existant. Planetside 2011 is alot different than Planetside 2003. This doesn't mean I think the CR system shouldn't be improved, especially with alot of the great ideas you guys propose. We'll just have to wait and see what the sequel brings.

[Firefly]

Now, with more CSR support, this sort of thing would be almost non-existant.
This is about the only reason that I miss CSR-DanB. That guy did not take any shit from punk bitches in public chat. In private, though... hehe... one time I told him to go fuck himself.

[BorisBlade]

The huge inflation of CEP is the main problem. Getting cr5 with 3x less xp not only means its easier to get but also encourages more people to go for it. If it were never increased there would be a tenth the cr5's there are now. Even after the first two years there were still very few of us. The high amount of cep needed turned off most people from even trying, let alone actually getting it.

Global chat is fine as is, just not when they go stupid and bump up xp gains. Its a freakin global, so any csr online would see it if the game was supported properly and quickly put a stop to it.

And hell no on the degrade thing. Thats beyond terrible. Old CR5 was a pain in the arse to get. If i stop playing for awhile, then come back to find i lost it, i will track down the dev responsible and pull a chris benoit on his kids. You can make OS'es cost CEP, or other things that cost CEP to use. Aka you can save up to x amount of cep, and that cep can be spent to buy an os/reveal/emp or whatever. The amount you can save up would be balanced such that you would have to do like full xp base caps to get enough for an os and you could save up the xp from the equivalent of 10 full base caps. Numbers not set in stone, but just an example. So if you dont lead you cant keep using those goodies.

[Redshift]

3. Make CR degrade over time.


degrading cep is a horrible idea, what that effectivly means is and outfit leader/officers get cr5 and no one else will, you also won't get current cr5's heading to ghost hacks to resecure, they'd be staying on the front lines to keep their cep high

borris blades idea's in the post above mine are better tbh

[Sirisian]

That was an important global message. I think you're overlooking how awesome that song is. I truly believe it has touched everyone's life after it was created. You are being rude to that person by pretending like only a child would listen to that song. How dare you.

If you mean people that can't take a joke? I think it places undue stress upon the world.

[Canaris]

That was an important global message. I think you're overlooking how awesome that song is. I truly believe it has touched everyone's life after it was created. You are being rude to that person by pretending like only a child would listen to that song. How dare you.

If you mean people that can't take a joke? I think it places undue stress upon the world.

So now we know who MagresVS is :D
Yeah this kind of crap is pretty annoying when being spammed, one does it for a joke, so another does it back and soon enough you have G-chat filled with the never ending gibberish of idiots. Ignore works pretty well but it would be nice to be able to punish this kind of behavior, I know PS doesn't have the CSR staff for it but this is something that PS2 should take seriously if there bringing it back.

Gum up G-chat with crap you take a weeks holiday from using it, do it again and you loose a month, third time and you're banned from ever using it again. Harsh but fair, a simple way "Use it right or loose it".

my three fiddy

[Vancha]

If you mean people that can't take a joke? I think it places undue stress upon the world.
lololololol itz jak sparrow song so funnee...

These are jokes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M5eG-aywZQ

Seriously though, occasional silliness in global is fine, the problem is more with CR5s who have this mentality...

Hahahhaha you think global chat is for being useful. Global chat is for CR5s to either spam or circle jerk and pretend that they're actually being helpful

...which is no laughing matter.

[duomaxwl]

lololololol itz jak sparrow song so funnee...

These are jokes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M5eG-aywZQ

Seriously though, occasional silliness in global is fine, the problem is more with CR5s who have this mentality...



...which is no laughing matter.

:thumbsup:

[krnasaur]

Thats why there should be an IQ test that comes along with being a CR 5.

[Effective]

IQ test wouldnt solve anything, you're always going to have people like that in globals/cchat

[Punker]

I always thought it would be a good idea to treat it like a forum and utilise volunteer moderators to keep the comms on topic.

Obviously they would have to select mature people who know what outcomes they're after - maybe even the larger outfit leaders as an example.

[Vancha]

^
Like someone said, when CSR's actually existed, global silliness was kept to a minimum.

Again though, this does seem like a situation that could benefit from an EVE-style ISD program.

[Gunuko]

Heres the thing guys, global chat when monitored is fine. If you said anything offensive in global chat 5-8 years ago when it was monitored you would get a warning/suspension. Now it is rarely monitored from what I'm seeing, mainly because the game is so old that they have decided not to monitor it like they once did. A lot of people want it removed, but the problem with it is that no CSR monitors it at the moment or at least rarely does so people say whatever they want and continue playing.

When it's monitored you will see people get suspended/warned, right now people are going to abuse it because theres no one there to discipline them.

[Goku]

I am so used to seeing that I stopped caring really about it. The issue prevalent when I got CR5 back in 2005 on Emerald NC.

[Baneblade]

I remember when I could login and be the only CR5 online on any empire, with three poplocks going.

[Goku]

I remember when I could login and be the only CR5 online on any empire, with three poplocks going.

I would be lucky to log on in the morning and be the only CR5 on with like 50 people playing. Thats rather ridiculous. God I wish I got this game when it was first released :(.

[krnasaur]

yea now every base fight has a minimum of 4 OSes. its kind of sad