offense or defense

[MiniOrca]

Debating which way i should go, maybe some of you could help me out


IM either going to get Heavy Assault and reinforced armor

or get a MAX(which comes with its own weapon

[TimberWolf2K]

Personly I like to be defence, why run around looking for the enemy when you know they will come to you.

Max suits are kinda restrictive, I dont think you can use Reks or med kits while in them, so you would need alot of suport to keep you in the action. I like the idea of reincorced armor, maybe abit slow but sturdy enough to keep you in one peice and enough room for all your faverout toys.

A sweeper shotgun and a Rocklet would make for good defence. Shottys have good stopping power and you never know when your gonna need to blow something up. Tumpers sound like a Blast too (chuckle)

[MiniOrca]

so would it be a good idea to get the rocklet as well?

[TimberWolf2K]

well if enough people are using tanks / buggies it would be worth carrying around, it might be good against troops too. If you planning on sticking around a base it dosnt really matter which weapons you choose you carry around. If you get blown up by a tank while your in Anti - infantry mode you can just re equip before you head into the action.

All weapons have merrit, they are all situational weapons. Find a setup that apeals to you and master it

[MiniOrca]

alright thx timber ;), im think im going to get reinforced with heavy assault and some other special toy, hehehe, im good at that kind of stuff, so gonna try that out and also going to give myself some vehicle certs, so im gonna be like a real soldier lol

[Fire_Monkey]

Just remember that re-enforced can only drive open air vehicles, and MAX can drive none. Choose whatever you feel is best, since this game is squad based, they want you to specialize because other people will help you out.

[ZeroMasters]

hah, only a fool would choose one.

and besides, the best defense is a good offense, if they cant get to your base, aint that defending it??

if only some of you used commmon sense, if possible.

[Fire_Monkey]

Originally posted by ZeroMasters
hah, only a fool would choose one.


choose one what

[Destroyeron]

I think he means choosing between offence or defense.

[simba]

But if a MAX armour has the medic cert he can carry around med kits just not use it, he can also carry weapons and reks and stuff like that tho just not use it, am I right? And is open-topped vehicles the harrasser and maurader?

[TimberWolf2K]

Empire specific vehicles will be a cert well spent. Firepower, man power and speed; a good combination. 3 of these (each seats 3 guys) and the 10th man in a aircraft for scouting. Could do some damage to an unprepared enemy.

VanuScum01: "Hey what�s that noise?"
VanuScum02: �It appears to be an Aircraft named the mosquito, allow me to insert a witty comment in my next statement referring to the insect form of the Mosquito�
VanuScum01: �Huh?�
VanuScum02: "let�s swat it!!"
*Foolish Vanu attack the lone Mosquito*
VanuScum02: "Ha ha observe them move in the opposite direction from us!"
VanuScum01: �huh?�
VanuScum02 �Ha Ha! Look at them run!�
VanuScum04: "wait....what�s that OTHER noise"
*sound of roaring engines and Banjos fills the air*
*3 Marauders full of Unwashed yet Deadly TerranGrunts bound over the hill and make towards the Vanu outpost*
TerranGrunt01: "Cummon Vanews, Lets Wrestul. I bet I can make ya squeal like a piggy!!"
TerranGrunt05: "Lets gettum!"
*the Terrans unleash a barraged of Heehaws that force the Vanu to flee their outpost in their Hover buggies*
VanuScum03: "If we can make it to the Team discovery Channel base we have a fighting chance"
VanuScum06: "I concur�
*The "Heehaws" of Unwashed yet Deadly Terrans is only drowned out by the equally inspiring sound of "Dueling Banjos" being blasted out from their "Customized speakers" attached to their Rides*
TerranGrunt06: "Commence op-O-ration havoc on ma signul!"
*A marauder pulls up on each side of a Vanu buggy and one over takes it, sitting right in front of!!, the Vanu are boxed in, nowhere to run...surely they are done fore*
TerranGrunt06: "op-O-ration Havoc is GO!"
*suddenly the Terrans draw their weapons and point them at the Vehicle....*
TerranGrunt06: "Attack!"
*Turning their weapons around the Terrans begin to beat the Buggy with the handles of their guns!!*
VanuScum07: "OMFG! Their chipping the paint! Their CHIPPING THE PAINT!"
VanuScum04: "No no no! not the chrome bumper!"
*After several minutes of unrelenting punishment the Vanu finally reach Team Discovery channels base*
VanuScum10: "Active the area division counter balancing device!!"
VanuScum13: "Huh?"
VanuScum10: "The gates you Neanderthal! Open the gates!"
*the chipped and scraped Vanu vehicle glides in, the gate slamming shut after them*
TerranGrunt07: "Open dem dar gates ya Purple pansy�s or Yall gonna be sorry"
VanuScum11: "what�s he saying... someone get the translation book"
*a Vanu soldier whips out his Terran to Vanu translation guide*
VanuScum11: "ok, he Wishes that we Activate the area division counterbalance device to grant them access to our compound or the consequences will be dire"....*thumbs through the book some more* "either that or he want to know if we have seen his Grandfather lately"
VanuScum09: *shouts over the wall* "I regret to inform you that we have had no visual confirmation of the where about of your Grandfather, We are willing to assist you in a search if you would be so kind as to conduct yourselves in a civil and Dignified manner"
*the Terran look at each other puzzled*
TerranGrunt01: "What tha heck did is he yammering about paw?"
TerranGrunt06: "Ah dunno, but dem sure does sound like a Fightin wurds!"
TerranGrunt07: "A said let us in or else we is gunna have a ho down and cause a ruckus until ya does!!"
*all the Vanu turn to look at VanuScum11*
VanuScum11: "I do recall stating to you in an afore mentioned conversation that you do grant us access to your compound, the resulting consequence for you not complying with our demands being, that of we will place oversized glass liquid containers to our lips and expel a mixture of oxygen and carbon dioxide from out lungs to create a audible vibration in the air. During the course of this audible vibration we will move our limbs in an unconventional manner while creating loud noises until you comply with our demands"....."Ether that or they wish to use our bathroom"
VanuScum09: "We regret to inform you that we cannot grant you access to our compound to allow you to use our waste disposal unit as we fear you will not conduct yourself apparently whilst inside. And you will most likely leave the seat up"
*the Terrans look at each other puzzling for a minute...*
TerranGrunt07: "HODOWN!"
*several grunts begin to blow over the neck of large water bottles while the others dance and ****
TerranGrunts in unison: "Yeeeehawwww"
VanuScum12: "Most undignified and displeasing to my ears, I fear that I will not be able to withstand such an audio barrage for much longer... Let us drive them off with our trivia knowledge of the forests of Auraxis"
VanuScum06: "I concur"
VanuScum12: *shouting over the wall* "The trees that surround Lake Hamma may look like the common oak but they are actually closely related to the Elm, when you closely examine their DNA structure"
*The Terran stop Jigging and look up to the Vanu*
VanuScum08 "The Dio bird that dwells in the trees to the north of here actually prefer the shade of the Shamboigle tree but those are currently being occupied by a flock of Crested eMa's"
Terrangrunt05: "what in the name of squirrel tail antenna covers are they yammering about?"
TerranGrunt04: "I'll be danged if I know....but I�m a scared"
VanuScum04: "I believe our trivia is having the desired affect, The common Fire_monkey was responsible for more than 73.62% of all forest fires on the 1st quarter of this year, Lucky we AirLift'ed them to the safety of our polar contents where they can causes no further damage to our ecosystem"
TerranGrunt01: "That�s it am a outa here, them Vanews is tawlkin crazy tawlk"
TerranGrunt04: "uh hu, lets get back to the barn, if we leave now we can catch Wheel of Fortune!"
Terrangrunt07: "But we cant let the Vanews think we are all scared o' them"
TerranGrunt02: "But what about the Wheel!"
TerranGrunt09: "A gots mes a plan!......RUN AWAY!"
*So the Unwashed yet deadly Terran pile back into their rides and make for home*
VanuScum03: "Success! using the knowledge of the tree dwelling wildlife we have overthrown the enemy!"
Vanu in unison: "SCIENCE POWER!"
VanuScum06: "Would anyone like to join me in a rousing game of Dungeons and dragons?"
Vanu in unison: "oooh Me!"

[TimberWolf2K]

Whoohoo Im a Soldier now! go me!... I guess the forum gods (http://www.timberwolf2k.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/forumgods.mp3) liked all my Sacrifices!...erm I mean posts. yeah posts.....
{Think}...they know to much, they must be "silenced"{Think}

[Nepmit]

im always goin to be on offense. no time sitting around defending your base.

[Airlift]

I intend to be on offense at least 90% of the time. You have to defend for 15 minutes on offense anyway, so once that timer goes off and the base is capped, I'm loading up and moving to the next base. Either someone will drop in to fill the void, or the base will fall and I'll come back later.

[MrVulcan]

You can not win a war by defending. You are always just reacting to what the enemy does, once you start defending you lose the ability to gain anything, eventually you will lose a center, lose that 1 more inch of ground, and if you don�t go offensive, you have no hope for winning.

I am going to always be pushing, attacking, never letting up, bring the battle to your enemy, don�t let him decide when and where to fight.

[RageMaster]

I personally will have a load-out that lets me play both roles, so if I see an opportunity for a base capture or the situation lends itself to my defensive config, I have the choice.

Besides which, a successful base capture will involve both offensive and defensive stages, so my best advice to anyone is to be prepared for both.

-RageMaster

[MiniOrca]

im deffinetly leaning towards offense, but is it possible for me to switch out an agile armor so i can drive a mosquito, or are you automatically in your strongest armor?

[RageMaster]

You can change out your armour at specific buy points in facilities. If you can get to a base that's yours, or if you can hack an enemy armour buy point you can switch out into your agile armour.

-RageMaster
[email protected]

[sterben]

A good offense is it's own defense, as long as it's done properly.

[FraBaktos]

To succeed in a war you have to have a proper combination of offense and defense! :D

[Nightmare]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: *breathes* holy shit Timberwolf, that was the funniest damn thing I have EVER read in my entire life! I swear I couldn't stop laughing. Oh man, that was great.

[MiniOrca]

just another quick question then, can u change armor?

[HRR Raven]

It was better than some stuff I've read here, and good start. Keep working on your writing and you'll only be bound to improve;)

[Hamma]

Recon/Offense :)

[Nightmare]

I'll be driving around in a harasser going to where the action is. If an assault is going on at a base to the north, I'm there. If one of my empire's bases is under attack, I'll be there to hit the enemy from behind. I'll be constantly moving, no one will really know where I am...

[Arshune]

If I get my hands on an infiltrator suit and a knife, my life will be complete.

[TimberWolf2K]

Originally posted by Nightmare
holy shit Timberwolf, that was the funniest damn thing I have EVER read in my entire life!

When people use a phrase like "Holy Shit" to complement or describe your work it really gives you a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Thanks :D

[SandTrout]

Recon/Offence, only defending when necisary.

[Sando138]

I wish Timberwolf would make a Vanu VS. NC parody...
*wink wink*
Heres an idea to start off with>

Vanuscum1: I wonder, what is the emitter of this vile racket?
VanuNewbie: Huh?
Vanuscum1: i asked What's making that noise, neolithic barbarian!
Vanuscum2: could it be those foul unwashed terrans again?
Vanuscum3; i place severe doubt on that conclusion.
Vanuscum1: Very well, lets begin the confusion anew.
*Vanuscum1 walks to the walltop to see a blue and gold Deliverer pull up and expel 5 NC.*
Vanuscum1: Did you know that the average rainfall in the area of Hossin is .04% higher than all surrounding areas?
NCguy1: (to his buddies) What the heck is he talking about?
NCguy2: sounded kinda like an insult to me...
NCguy3: hey you purple *** ** ***** *** ******* go ***** ur ***!
NCguy1: jeez, can you stop flaming? it makes the rest of us look stupid.
Vanuscum2: is'nt it interesting that the common Vreas likes to nest in watchtowers?
NCguy3: supid FKn VANEU! go *** you ****** **** ** ****!!!1!
NCguy1: c'mon, shut up!
NCguy3: ************* ********* ** ************!!!
*NCguy2 shoots NCguy3*
NCguy1: Now, thats better. Where were we?
NCguy2: I think they're trying to confuse us.
NCguy1: lets see.... how do we confuse a Vanu who is addicted to technology? hmmm.... i got it! i have this old... *discusses his plan with his buddies*
Vanuscum1: *to his buddies* all evidence currently suggests that our current tactic is successful. shall we give them some more knowledge?
Vanuscum2: let's do.
*Vanuscum1 turns to talk to the NC to see them all pointing their REKs into the air above Team Discovery channel base.*
Vanuscum2: what in the name of Technophobia are they doing?
Vanuscum1: hmm... lets try to use simmilar methods... perhaps they discovered an alternate use for their REKs...
*Vanuscum1 and 2 point their REKs into the air too*
Computer: *Beep* Download complete, initiating Windows installation... Please wait... Installation complete.
NCguy1: Its working!
Vanuscum1: Ahh! what is this foul "software incompatibility error" when i try to fire my rifle into the air to scare the idiots away? a blue screen impedes vision on my Heads Up Display...
Vanuscum2: *tries to fire his gun too* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! it apparently is the Blue Screen of Death! i thought it had been all but destroyed in the upgrade to Vanu Operating System!
NCguy2: whoohoo! now lets get out of here beore they say any more trivia.
*Deliverer APC pulls up, they get in and drive away*
NCguy2: what was that program you installed?
NCguy1: an old program that used to allow fora user interface on a computer so big that you need to put it on a desk from a thousand years ago. it was so buggy then that it's now used as a computer virus... installing windows on the base's mainframe computer and their combat software created such a bad software conflict that their base's generators wil go critical in about- *BOOM* one second ago.

oh, and as for defense/offense, im an offensive player, (as in i attack, not as in flame/disgust/annoy) to keep my post semi-on-topic.)

[SandTrout]

Heh, funny stuff timber.

BTW: The marauder is the only 3 man buggy.

I wonder what would hapen if the NC came in with some vangaurds...

Vanu1: Whats that?

Vanu2: It is a medium tank used by the New Conglomerate called the Vangaurd. It features a 150mm cannon and 2 20mm recoiless machine guns.
Vanu1: Huh?
Vanu2: Its a big-ass gun on treads.
Vanu3: Anyone have a lancer?
Vanu4: Busy snipeing squirls right now.
NC1: Hit the Wagner.*Ride of the Valkyries begins playing on the tank's speakers.*
Vanu4: Die squirly die!
Vanu2:Please relinquish your high intensity beam device so that I may flash-heat the armor of the vehichles that threaten us to the the point that it melts.
Vanu4: Huh?
Vanu2: Give me the f***ing gun!
NC2: Dude, let us crash for the night, I've got a major case of the munchies. If you don't we'll have 'ta go woodstock on you man.
Vanu1: Huh?
Vanu3: Get the NC to Vanu dictionary out.
Vanu2: I have anticipated your needs in this liguistic difficulty
Vanu1: Huh?
Vanu3: *looks into the book and reads it.*Hes either trying to say "Let us in, or we'll beat you up." or "Have you seen my music files anywhere?".
Vanu2: We have not seen your music files anywhere, but we will gladly offer the services of our harcker to find them.
*The NC get out of the tanks to discuss this*
NC1: Do any of you know what they're talking about?
NC2: I don't know what they're on, but I want some.
NC3: They fought off those Terrans earlier, so lets be careful.
*the NC turn back to the Vanu*
NC2: Well share our stash with ya' if you let us crash.
Vanu3: I think he's threatening to destroy the base with hiden explosives!
Vanu2:*To the NC* Any force large enough to damage this base's structural integrity could only be produced with the fusion of fission of atomic nuclei, which would decintigrate you as well.
*The NC give each other questioning looks, they each shrug in turn*
NC3: Fire 'em up boys!
*The NC blast the Vanu each with 1 150mm shell. They then proceed to celebrate by useing the vangaurd's main gun for its original purpose, as a pipe.*

[Big Bro]

I agree with MrVulcan that if you aren't attacking that you die. But I think that's only in the larger scheme of things. I see where if they decide to go for a strategically crucial facility that you NEED to be able to defend. Also, I foresee some people just patrolling strategic areas (like the jumpgates) to cut off access to the rest of the continent.

I think that people will need to assess the current situation before deciding whether it is prudent to attack or defend. But I agree that you should always be attacking SOMEWHERE. You can't remain complacent.

[LesserShade]

tell me what server all you gung-ho all offense people are playing on so i can start hacking your bases :/

base D in tribes was pretty damn important and I think there will be some similarities here in PS. I don't think that we want a whole empire that just grabs a few bases and turtles for the rest of the week, but I think that bases that are on battle fronts are going to need groups of people that are willing to defend. Otherwise the offense will constantly be back tracking to recapture bases.